Buddy Hix Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 14 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: So now you've moved from admitting that you misspoke, frames weren't added, the video wasn't doctored to... "it's a conspiracy!" This is what happens when you blindly believe the narrative that suits your partisanship over thinking for yourself. You get made to look stupid, and people laugh at you. Especially those who authored the narrative you're mindlessly parroting. I read what tech expert Jonathan Albright said about the shared video. It was either edited, altered from compression or altered from conversion. No verdict is reached. But I would expect a reasonable person to look at where the alterations occur (only during Acosta’s chop) and the source (Infowars), and then consider why the WH shared that particular version. I think most would conclude that disinformation was the objective Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Joe Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Was the live feed UDP or RTP? Was the tape VHS or BETA? These answers will definitely clear up the issue of whether it was a press jerk or knee jerk reaction. I'm leaning press jerk. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Buddy Hix said: I read what tech expert Jonathan Albright said about the shared video. It was either edited, altered from compression or altered from conversion. No verdict is reached. But I would expect a reasonable person to look at where the alterations occur (only during Acosta’s chop) and the source (Infowars), and then consider why the WH shared that particular version. I think most would conclude that disinformation was the objective Funny. I would expect a reasonable person to watch the video for themselves. If you do, and watch it side by side with the zoomed and slowed video, you'll see they're identical - but for the zooming and slowing which is not doctoring the video. Or... you can believe the words of a "tech expert" who is lying to you. This is why I keep pushing honing your own discernment. It's the only thing that will get you through the (dis)information war we're all combatants in at present. 2 hours ago, Buddy Hix said: Frames were added and the video was slowed down and sped up. But we’re the ***** morons, got it. For the record, this is where you started this morning. You've now moved off it, admitting no frames were added, yet you're still pushing the same narrative - facts be damned. Is it possible you've been had? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 41 minutes ago, Buddy Hix said: I think Acosta was wrong to touch the woman. I also think the woman was wrong to try and grab the mic from Acosta. But that is inconsequential to me. When I see the WH sharing altered videos, with what I believe is the intent to mislead the public, I get concerned. What are your feelings on why the WH shared that specific video and are now doubling down that it wasn't altered? How do you feel about the Whitehouse blaming videos for the deaths of Americans? It's amazing how naive you are. 5 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Funny. I would expect a reasonable person to watch the video for themselves. If you do, and watch it side by side with the zoomed and slowed video, you'll see they're identical - but for the zooming and slowing which is not doctoring the video. Or... you can believe the words of a "tech expert" who is lying to you. This is why I keep pushing honing your own discernment. It's the only thing that will get you through the (dis)information war we're all combatants in at present. For the record, this is where you started this morning. You've now moved off it, admitting no frames were added, yet you're still pushing the same narrative - facts be damned. Is it possible you've been had? He's too stupid to understand, too dishonest to admit that, too lazy to look for himself, and too disinterested in the truth to separate himself from #orangemanbad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 If you despise Trump, there’s *literally* nothing you can say about him or his supporters that is beyond the pale in mainstream media. If you don’t recognize that dynamic as the driver of all of Trump’s hostility toward the media, you’re too far gone. . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 2 hours ago, peace out said: 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Buddy Hix said: I think Acosta was wrong to touch the woman. I also think the woman was wrong to try and grab the mic from Acosta. But that is inconsequential to me. When I see the WH sharing altered videos, with what I believe is the intent to mislead the public, I get concerned. What are your feelings on why the WH shared that specific video and are now doubling down that it wasn't altered? Let's assume, for the sake of argument that it was doctored. People that know a lot more than I do about video compression and reproduction say it wasn't, but let's say it was. Did you have the same deeply held feelings and concerns when the white house intentionally lied to the public about a video prompting the embassy attack in Benghazi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 48 minutes ago, Buddy Hix said: I read what tech expert Jonathan Albright said about the shared video. It was either edited, altered from compression or altered from conversion. No verdict is reached. But I would expect a reasonable person to look at where the alterations occur (only during Acosta’s chop) and the source (Infowars), and then consider why the WH shared that particular version. I think most would conclude that disinformation was the objective A reasonable person doesn't do photo analysis on youtube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 1 hour ago, FreddieJizzle22 said: The only thing I want to suppress is my diaphragm Please, please keep it in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 What really happened: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Don Lemon defends antifa. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/08/28/don_lemon_defends_antifa_no_organization_is_perfect.html#! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 2 hours ago, FreddieJizzle22 said: The only thing I want to suppress is my diaphragm OMG, you are totes my BFF. We absolutely must get together for a selfie while you're here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 19 hours ago, DC Tom said: A reasonable person doesn't do photo analysis on youtube. Or ask for advice on a football message board. Or so I’ve heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 some common sense. CNN's Jim Acosta's actions to Trump don't represent the best of journalism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Foxx said: some common sense. CNN's Jim Acosta's actions to Trump don't represent the best of journalism It may not represent the best of journalism but it does represent the majority of “journalism”. Journalists have gone the way of Statesmen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albwan Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 4 hours ago, B-Man said: I hear Jim "colludes" with Don Lemon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 On 11/9/2018 at 1:13 PM, Deranged Rhino said: Funny. I would expect a reasonable person to watch the video for themselves. If you do, and watch it side by side with the zoomed and slowed video, you'll see they're identical - but for the zooming and slowing which is not doctoring the video. Or... you can believe the words of a "tech expert" who is lying to you. This is why I keep pushing honing your own discernment. It's the only thing that will get you through the (dis)information war we're all combatants in at present. For the record, this is where you started this morning. You've now moved off it, admitting no frames were added, yet you're still pushing the same narrative - facts be damned. Is it possible you've been had? I think Buddy H simply misunderestimated what he thought and/or said and/or meant earlier about the tape. What he was 100% certain of was that in every way possible, the Trump WH was part of it. He was pretty clear that the young lady who's main job at the press conference was to move the microphone from participant to participant was a big part of the problem for trying to move the microphone from one participant to another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdutton Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 https://i.imgur.com/dlJErga.mp4 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Trumpy Bear is killin' me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 2 hours ago, LABillzFan said: Trumpy Bear is killin' me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 CNN and Acosta sue not just the White House, but also individual secret service agent because Acosta is classy like that. https://mobile.twitter.com/charliespiering/status/1062351684750458885 https://mobile.twitter.com/AP/status/1062352634995269632 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 6 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: CNN and Acosta sue not just the White House, but also individual secret service agent because Acosta is classy like that. https://mobile.twitter.com/charliespiering/status/1062351684750458885 https://mobile.twitter.com/AP/status/1062352634995269632 The WH was probably going to let him come back to the briefings after a short time, that makes for a more effective example for the rest. But now............................they almost have to keep him out due to the lawsuit..................... . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 2 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: CNN and Acosta sue not just the White House, but also individual secret service agent because Acosta is classy like that. https://mobile.twitter.com/charliespiering/status/1062351684750458885 https://mobile.twitter.com/AP/status/1062352634995269632 On what grounds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Just now, TakeYouToTasker said: On what grounds? I haven't read the complaint yet, but I heard (not confirmed) it cites both 1st and 5th amendment concerns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 I'm suing for access. I wrote a few articles in school, have doesn't a few press releases, and once did a Madlibs by myself. Accosta is a that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Just now, Deranged Rhino said: I haven't read the complaint yet, but I heard (not confirmed) it cites both 1st and 5th amendment concerns Acosta is asserting that he, individually, has the right to be in the White House press pool? On First Amendment grounds? That's insane. And the insanity doesn't even begin to touch on a Fifth Amendment concerns, which is even more laughable. He should be beaten with a length of rubber hose. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DC Tom Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 12 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: I haven't read the complaint yet, but I heard (not confirmed) it cites both 1st and 5th amendment concerns Oh, just ***** that *****ery. Acosta doesn't have a First Amendment right to be an ass to the rest of the press corps. CNN might have a First Amendment right to be present at briefings - I'd argue they do - but that right is not embodied in the person of Acosta, and they can assign someone else. 5th Amendment... Quote No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation. What crime was he punished for? What double jeopardy was he subjected to? What testimony against himself was he compelled to give? What life, liberty, or property was taken from him? What private property was taken for him without compensation? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 23 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: I haven't read the complaint yet, but I heard (not confirmed) it cites both 1st and 5th amendment concerns Is that asshat is trying to claim he has a property right in his 'hard pass'? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Just now, Koko78 said: Is that asshat is trying to claim he has a property right in his 'hard pass'? Only possible thing that makes sense. Can't wait until the court forces the White House to give it back, then they take it away again, then he sues for double jeopardy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 32 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: I'm suing for access. I wrote a few articles in school, have doesn't a few press releases, and once did a Madlibs by myself. Accosta is a that. Those must have been done on a keyboard designed for a person with ten thumbs, right? I was going to highlight "have doesn't" and ask you if you meant half dozen but realized that your entire post deserved highlighting because WTF? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 (edited) 32 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Oh, just ***** that *****ery. Acosta doesn't have a First Amendment right to be an ass to the rest of the press corps. CNN might have a First Amendment right to be present at briefings - I'd argue they do - but that right is not embodied in the person of Acosta, and they can assign someone else. I'm not sure that they do. That would be an argument that all press outlets have the right to be in the briefing room. I would argue that their First Amendment protections are limited to the Government's lacking of the authority to silence them, or to prosecute them for publishing or disseminating. Being in the briefing room is a privilege. Quote 5th Amendment... What crime was he punished for? What double jeopardy was he subjected to? What testimony against himself was he compelled to give? What life, liberty, or property was taken from him? What private property was taken for him without compensation? Exactly this. 5 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Those must have been done on a keyboard designed for a person with ten thumbs, right? I was going to highlight "have doesn't" and ask you if you meant half dozen but realized that your entire post deserved highlighting because WTF? I'm pretty sure this was the Madlibs he was talking about. Also, golf is a sport. Edited November 13, 2018 by TakeYouToTasker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: I'm not sure that they do. That would be an argument that all press outlets have the right to be in the briefing room. Not just all outlets, but specific people from those outlets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, GG said: Not just all outlets, but specific people from those outlets. I was addressing Tom's narrow argument that CNN has the First Amendment right to be in the briefing room. However the absurdist in me would I'd love to see liberals successfully arguing that corporations are people. Edited November 13, 2018 by TakeYouToTasker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 4 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: I'm not sure that they do. That would be an argument that all press outlets have the right to be in the briefing room. I would argue that their First Amendment protections are limited to the Government's lacking of the authority to silence them, or to prosecute them for publishing or disseminating. Being in the briefing room is a privilege. Exactly this. I'm pretty sure this was the Madlibs he was talking about. Also, golf is a sport. Of course it is. I was obsessed with it for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 1 minute ago, TakeYouToTasker said: I was addressing Tom's narrow argument that CNN has the First Amendment right to be in the briefing room. However the absurdist in my would I'd love to see liberals successfully arguing that corporations are people. Especially in light of their opposition to Citizens United Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Just now, GG said: Especially in light of their opposition to Citizens United Exactly my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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