Another Fan Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 Perhaps this should be posted in the political section here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 No need to get political. She's an actress and a damn good one. HBD! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 Her father had much more talent than either of his children. Demerits for Hanoi Jane, but Barbarella is ridiculous, campy fun, so I forgive her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 HBD Jane!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 I remember taking a high school field trip to the Como Mall..we saw The China Syndrome.Back then nuclear power talk was a huge issue.Coming Home was sad but solid..On Golden Pond....the list goes on...she wasn't a one generation hit that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 still a yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nervous Guy Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 3 hours ago, plenzmd1 said: still a yes? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Nervous Guy said: that is the question. I never thought I would want a 80 year old. But Jane looks pretty damn good. Especially after a few drinks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowgirlsFan Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 Best wishes to her. She's definitely has led an interesting life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 She's definitely in the Joan Rivers territory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 her dad was a great actor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Fan Posted December 21, 2017 Author Share Posted December 21, 2017 4 hours ago, plenzmd1 said: still a yes? Considered a GILF then if so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 Good Ol' Hanoi Jane. Nope, you'll never get a good word from me about her. There's a spot in hell waiting for you, Janey. Hurry along! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 Unforgivable, and she has never really admitted her stupidity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 Happy Birthday, Barbarella Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 She was hot as hell at one point in time. For some reason I get the impression the majority of Bills fans would hate her guts for political reasons. We seem to attract that sort of demographic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 18 minutes ago, Sweats said: Happy Birthday, Barbarella 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 How many times did she do it? ? h b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Fadingpain said: For some reason I get the impression the majority of Bills fans would hate her guts for political reasons. What she did transcended political choice. It was treason, and people got hurt for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 46 minutes ago, sherpa said: What she did transcended political choice. It was treason, and people got hurt for it. Patently false. Do some research and educate yourself before spewing what you've "learned" from others. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 4 hours ago, Wacka said: She's definitely in the Joan Rivers territory. Joan was the hardest working woman in show biz and didn’t take herself too seriously. She is missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 3 hours ago, sherpa said: Unforgivable, and she has never really admitted her stupidity. Again ... read something. There was a televised apology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 (edited) 6 hours ago, Gugny said: Patently false. Do some research and educate yourself before spewing what you've "learned" from others. "“If a prisoner tried to escape, it is quite understandable that he would probably be beaten and tortured.” That was said by an individual and it was said regarding US POWs held by the North Vietnamese. That individual also made radio broadcasts at the behest of Radio Hanoi, during the war. That individual also posed for a picture on an anti aircraft gun. She later claimed she had no idea what she was doing. Her "apologies" came coincident with movie openings that protesters were recommending be boycotted. She gave aid and comfort to an enemy during a war. I have "educated" myself on this puke. Edited December 22, 2017 by sherpa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 (edited) 13 hours ago, Pete said: that is the question. I never thought I would want a 80 year old. But Jane looks pretty damn good. Especially after a few drinks 13 hours ago, Another Fan said: Considered a GILF then if so? Yep to both of these...damnit i dont know how to insert a picture!!! Edited December 22, 2017 by plenzmd1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: Yep to both of these...damnit i dont know how to insert a picture!!! Click in the text box to add reply, select the picture then drag and drop it into the text window. If it doesn't autoload it will ask you for the link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Click in the text box to add reply, select the picture then drag and drop it into the text window. If it doesn't autoload it will ask you for the link Thank you!..now how do i make it smaller figured it out..just used smaller picture!! Edited December 22, 2017 by plenzmd1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 27 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: Thank you!..now how do i make it smaller figured it out..just used smaller picture!! Occam's Razor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 Or, Occam’s Shaver as some here will suggest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 4 hours ago, sherpa said: "“If a prisoner tried to escape, it is quite understandable that he would probably be beaten and tortured.” That was said by an individual and it was said regarding US POWs held by the North Vietnamese. That individual also made radio broadcasts at the behest of Radio Hanoi, during the war. That individual also posed for a picture on an anti aircraft gun. She later claimed she had no idea what she was doing. Her "apologies" came coincident with movie openings that protesters were recommending be boycotted. She gave aid and comfort to an enemy during a war. I have "educated" myself on this puke. Posing for pictures and speaking to the "enemy," do not qualify as treason. As for your quote about prisoners trying to escape, that has nothing to do with an actress posing for some photos. That would hold true for any POW held by any country during any war. She went there as a human being and spoke with other human beings, including seven U.S. POWs who all agreed to speak with her. She spoke about/against some of the tactics used by the U.S. military that were targeting civilians (human beings) and spoke about the impact. Lastly, at the time of her visit, the "war," was all but over. You, and so many like you, are so pissed off at this woman who never put anyone in harm's way, but never like to speak out against the pigs who sent our (barely) men into a no-win situation and nearly imminent death. But yeah .... Jane Fonda is the devil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 9 minutes ago, Gugny said: Posing for pictures and speaking to the "enemy," do not qualify as treason. As for your quote about prisoners trying to escape, that has nothing to do with an actress posing for some photos. That would hold true for any POW held by any country during any war. She went there as a human being and spoke with other human beings, including seven U.S. POWs who all agreed to speak with her. She spoke about/against some of the tactics used by the U.S. military that were targeting civilians (human beings) and spoke about the impact. Lastly, at the time of her visit, the "war," was all but over. You, and so many like you, are so pissed off at this woman who never put anyone in harm's way, but never like to speak out against the pigs who sent our (barely) men into a no-win situation and nearly imminent death. But yeah .... Jane Fonda is the devil. You don't get to judge what constitutes treason. US Constitution Article 3 Section 3. "or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort." Jane Fonda did exactly that when she agreed to participate in Radio Hanoi propaganda programs. She didn't speak "to" the enemy, she spoke "for" the enemy, and she didn't offer any hint of remorse for such ill advised stupidity until there was an economic component. You have no idea of what i don't like to "speak out against." It matters not a whit when she did it in the context of that war. She did it while US servicemen were being held in North Vietnamese torture camps. She has/had no idea what was being targeted and why, and I know exactly what her claim was. Further, your claim in a previous post that I should: "Do some research and educate yourself before spewing what you've "learned" from others, " I challenge as well. I would suggest that you "learned" it from others as well. Where I "learned" it was from people I served with as a light attack pilot in the Pacific Fleet. In case you don't know, that is the group that delivered weapons during that war, and a number of them ended up in POW camps. On my first cruise, a good deal of the more senior officers, 04 and above, all served in Viet Nam, and knew all about what her actions caused. In addition, it was discussed at SERE school, (POW) school. I trust those people more than any others I have ever met, and certainly trust their judgement more than some ignorant young woman empowered by noting other than celebrity, who hadn't any clue what the hell she was doing. And I don't consider her the "devil." She was just a typical self absorbed idiot in way over her head. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, sherpa said: You don't get to judge what constitutes treason. US Constitution Article 3 Section 3. "or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort." Jane Fonda did exactly that when she agreed to participate in Radio Hanoi propaganda programs. She didn't speak "to" the enemy, she spoke "for" the enemy, and she didn't offer any hint of remorse for such ill advised stupidity until there was an economic component. You have no idea of what i don't like to "speak out against." It matters not a whit when she did it in the context of that war. She did it while US servicemen were being held in North Vietnamese torture camps. She has/had no idea what was being targeted and why, and I know exactly what her claim was. Further, your claim in a previous post that I should: "Do some research and educate yourself before spewing what you've "learned" from others, " I challenge as well. I would suggest that you "learned" it from others as well. Where I "learned" it was from people I served with as a light attack pilot in the Pacific Fleet. In case you don't know, that is the group that delivered weapons during that war, and a number of them ended up in POW camps. On my first cruise, a good deal of the more senior officers, 04 and above, all served in Viet Nam, and knew all about what her actions caused. In addition, it was discussed at SERE school, (POW) school. I trust those people more than any others I have ever met, and certainly trust their judgement more than some ignorant young woman empowered by noting other than celebrity, who hadn't any clue what the hell she was doing. And I don't consider her the "devil." She was just a typical self absorbed idiot in way over her head. Thank you for your service. She was an activist during the Vietnam war; hardly alone. She didn't cause anything bad to happen to any U.S. soldiers and she didn't commit treason. I don't agree with what she did, but I certainly don't believe that she had any power whatsoever to have any negative impact - nor do I think that was her goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 Best thing I ever saw was a Hanoi Jane urinal target at the local VFW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 Lets get back to 10 year old boys looking at this and this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 11 minutes ago, Gugny said: Thank you for your service. She was an activist during the Vietnam war; hardly alone. She didn't cause anything bad to happen to any U.S. soldiers and she didn't commit treason. I don't agree with what she did, but I certainly don't believe that she had any power whatsoever to have any negative impact - nor do I think that was her goal. Don't thank me for my service. You have absolutely no idea what she caused. Tokyo Rose was convicted of doing exactly what this moron did, there just wasn't any appetite for pursuing it, and I'm glad it turned out that way. I don't give a rat's ass what her "goal" was, nor do the people who were impacted in any way, and I'm quite certain you don't either. One thing I do know is that her crap was used, and used against people who were in POW camps during her idiotic "altruistic" campaign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, sherpa said: Don't thank me for my service. Why do you not wish to be thanked for your service? And Tokyo Rose got railroaded. It was complete BS that she was ever charged and her conviction was based on lies. Edited December 22, 2017 by Gugny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 I am quite familiar with the Tokyo Rose issue. What matters is what is written in the Constitution Article 3 Section 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, sherpa said: I am quite familiar with the Tokyo Rose issue. What matters is what is written in the Constitution Article 3 Section 3. Re: Tokyo Rose, I see you're not going to go with facts in this one, either. Not even going there. So tell me why you don't like to be thanked for your service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, joesixpack said: tokyo rose got railroaded? she worked as a propagandist for a regime that committed war crimes of the highest order! I really want to get Shmegma's response about why he doesn't like to be thanked for his service before this goes to PPP. But she was subsequently pardoned and later recognized (awarded) by the WWII Veterans Committee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Gugny said: Re: Tokyo Rose, I see you're not going to go with facts in this one, either. Not even going there. So tell me why you don't like to be thanked for your service. The specifics of the Tokyo Rose issue don't matter. What matters is what is written in the US Constitution re treason, and that case is precedent. That is what applies to this self absorbed actress, and that is what you have, in my view, erroneously commented on. Edited December 22, 2017 by sherpa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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