Hebert19 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Ok...so most articles say we should be cheering for San Diego this weekend but I'm pretty sure we want KC to win if we believe we are going to lose to the pats. Correct? At 9-7 we want us, KC and Chargers tied and us and KC get it. Correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 I want LA to win. I want KC to lose out. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Quite simply, as far as making the playoffs goes, we don’t really know who we want to win yet. For draft positioning, obviously we want the chargers to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 I think it is the other way around. They have identical records right now. Buffalo has played both teams - beat KC and lost to the Chargers. If the Chargers go on to win the division, that leaves KC to compete with the Bills for a wild card spot, and the first tie breaker is head to head. Buffalo wins it. They lose the same tie breaker if they are going up against the Chargers. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 6 minutes ago, TigerJ said: I think it is the other way around. They have identical records right now. Buffalo has played both teams - beat KC and lost to the Chargers. If the Chargers go on to win the division, that leaves KC to compete with the Bills for a wild card spot, and the first tie breaker is head to head. Buffalo wins it. They lose the same tie breaker if they are going up against the Chargers. BUT, if more than two teams have the same record (which is very possible in the AFC this year), head-to-head goes out the window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 You can see in the other threads it's complicated by the other teams. If three teams end 9-7 KC has the upper hand with tiebreakers but there are other scenarios where LAC and Baltimore win out and Tennessee loses out and we beat KC in the head to head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Go Chargers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruiserplayer Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 One of them will win the west. If it’s the chargers then we would potentially be battling kc for the wc. Go chargers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PABillsfan23 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 1 hour ago, Hebert19 said: Ok...so most articles say we should be cheering for San Diego this weekend but I'm pretty sure we want KC to win if we believe we are going to lose to the pats. Correct? At 9-7 we want us, KC and Chargers tied and us and KC get it. Correct? So we beat Miami twice already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 26 minutes ago, PABillsfan23 said: So we beat Miami twice already? If we don't, then the outcome of the LAC/KC game is probably irrelevant as far as our playoff hopes are concerned. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellcamino Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 It seems to me that the only thing the outcome of the KC-LAC game determines is who we root for the the SF-Ten game. If KC wins, we will need a 3 way tie, so root for Ten vs SF because its less likely they will win vs Rams and they must lose to Jags. If SD wins, we need a 2 team tie, so root for SF as we will need Tenn to lose out. this is all assuming Balt gets the first WC and of course Bills going 2-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM57 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 43 minutes ago, Hellcamino said: It seems to me that the only thing the outcome of the KC-LAC game determines is who we root for the the SF-Ten game. If KC wins, we will need a 3 way tie, so root for Ten vs SF because its less likely they will win vs Rams and they must lose to Jags. If SD wins, we need a 2 team tie, so root for SF as we will need Tenn to lose out. this is all assuming Balt gets the first WC and of course Bills going 2-1 This is pretty close to correct I think. Basically, there's not many scenarios where the Bills beat the Ravens in a tiebreaker, short of the Ravens and Bills tied at 9-7 with the Ravens 7th loss coming to the Bengals, and the Bills 2 wins coming against Miami, which would mean conference and common games record is equal, and would move the tiebreaker down into strength of victory, and even that is no guarantee. If the Bills, Ravens and Chargers are all tied at 9-7, the Chargers will have a 6-6 conference record, which would eliminate them, as the Bills and Ravens would be at 7-5. As far as TEN/SF goes, I think you want SF to win no matter what. The easiest way to look at all these scenarios is by eliminating the Titans from the picture all together. It's not crazy to see them losing to the Rams and Jaguars. It's tougher to say that about the 49ers, but at the same time, they ha e looked better with Garoppolo under center and the Titans have looked pretty awful... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 focus on winning the next three games. worry about the rest of the AFC after taking care of our own business Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DisplacedBillsFan Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 I usually love looking at what teams to root for this time of year and than having a higher level of interest in those games (outside of Draft Kings). However, the playoff picture in the AFC is so muddied and complex this year, that there are too many what if's to even focus on who to root for right now. A three way tie for the last WC spot makes things a lot more complex, and until the games are actually played, there are far too many scenarios to determine who we want to win this game. You can see this right now as we would get the WC over the Chargers due to the three way tie with Baltimore. However, if it was a tie only between us and the Chargers, they would get the spot. Assuming we win our games, we won't truly know who to root for until week 17. Of course, this is in games such as KC vs. LAC. By all means, root for Cleveland to beat Baltimore, SF to be Tennessee, Dallas to beat Oakland and Houston to beat Jacksonville. I recognize that we may want either Jacksonville or Tennessee to just win and take the AFC South title, but right now, if there is a team that is close to a WC playing a team that isn't (in the AFC), I'm rooting for the team that's not close to us. Technically, we can still be the two seed behind Pittsburgh, with Jacksonville and Tennessee both getting in at 9-7, and KC and NE rounding out the AFC bracket. So, nothing is set yet. Let's enjoy the meaningful Bills games this late in the season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 I believe the logic behind rooting for the Chiefs today is that there is likely to be more than a 2-way tie at 9-7 so head-to-head tiebreakers are not as important. Of course, if you're looking at it from a "plan for the future" standpoint you want the Chiefs to keep losing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Need chiefs and bills to lose out let’s go draft !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DisplacedBillsFan Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 1 minute ago, Air it out Fitzy said: Need chiefs and bills to lose out let’s go draft !! Not sure why anyone would actually be rooting for this scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, DisplacedBillsFan said: Not sure why anyone would actually be rooting for this scenario. Because Beane and McDermott are playing 5-D chess, while everyone else is playing 2-D. With the Pegulas as the grandmaster, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, DisplacedBillsFan said: Not sure why anyone would actually be rooting for this scenario. So the Bills can get better draft picks and we don’t have to watch these bums wear the uniform anymore ? Edited December 16, 2017 by Air it out Fitzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DisplacedBillsFan Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Just now, Air it out Fitzy said: So the Bills can get better draft picks and we don’t have to watch these bums wear the uniform anymore ? Best chance we've had at the playoffs in years...but, yeah, let's root for draft picks who may or may not even end up starting for this team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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