slaphappy Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 It was a 4th and long 1. Not like it was gimme making it. Then the Colts need 3 complete passes to line up for a winning FG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Calls like that are one of the reasons we are in a drought. On 4th & 1 from their 41 with that little time left to play in sudden death OT and hopes of the playoffs hanging in the balance against a team that is not going to the postseason and you decide to punt after letting however many seconds run off the clock? That is straight up, poo-eating stupid. You call a timeout right after the 3rd down play is over, call your offense to the sidelines, and tell them "This is the play we want to run to pick up the first down. If you don't make it, our season is over and I'll junk punt every single one of you in the locker room. Now, go get that first down!" That's how you do it, not play like a turtle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 I hated it, but it’s not as obvious as it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 9 minutes ago, slaphappy said: It was a 4th and long 1. Not like it was gimme making it. Then the Colts need 3 complete passes to line up for a winning FG. But a tie equals a loss to us. That's the reason it was so bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knicks&Bills Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 24 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: No it didnt. Um yeah it did. Now I’ll be the first to admit i want him to go for it in that position, but the call at that particular moment helped us win the football game. Now you’re entitled to call it luck, but what he did helped us win the game. That’s a fact, it’s not an opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Just now, Knicks&Bills said: Um yeah it did. Now I’ll be the first to admit i want him to go for it in that position, but the call at that particular moment helped us win the football game. Now you’re entitled to call it luck, but what he did helped us win the game. That’s a fact, it’s not an opinion Fact is what the Math said. Everything else is blah. So even with the punt you gained 14 yards if Field Position and it still took an INSANE catch from a WR that was cut from Bears from your ST player playing QB to win the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bills Pimpin' Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 46 minutes ago, Wayne Cubed said: Then why couldn’t they hold them in check from the 41?!? if you trust your defense to get the ball back, you go for it! There’s no reason not to. There's a bunch of reasons not to and they were all shown after the punt. Did you not watch the end of the game? Did you not see all the reasons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 53 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ....only in Bflo could a beotchfest break out in a mind boggling "W" with weather Tasker said was, "the worst I've seen at a Buffalo game in 30 years"....go figure....Jesus... Lol and with a 3rd string QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: Lol and with a 3rd string QB That even with McD punt had to make plays didnt he?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: Lol and with a 3rd string QB Who's really not even a QB anymore. He would be somewhere between three and emergency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knicks&Bills Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: Fact is what the Math said. Everything else is blah. So even with the punt you gained 14 yards if Field Position and it still took an INSANE catch from a WR that was cut from Bears from your ST player playing QB to win the game. Again call it luck, but what happened happened and we won the game. Had we went for it on forth down we could have had a turnover, or gotten stopped, and the momentum of the game might have changed where we don’t win. It wasn’t an egregious call anyway. It’s not clear cut what you do at that point, it’s a subjective thing imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 If the pass falls incomplete does McDermott go for it on 4th and 9 with 2 minutes left? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Just now, Knicks&Bills said: Again call it luck, but what happened happened and we won the game. Had we went for it on forth down we could have had a turnover, or gotten stopped, and the momentum of the game might have changed where we don’t win. It wasn’t an egregious call anyway. It’s not clear cut what you do at that point, it’s a subjective thing imo. And if we went for it on 4th down Odds are you win the game more than if you punt. Those are varified scientific facts. That Odds are better to win the game going for it on 4th and 1 than they are punting. Not some mytical momentum of the game stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Just now, TheTruthHurts said: If the pass falls incomplete does McDermott go for it on 4th and 9 with 2 minutes left? That one is a no brainer. He has no more timeouts. He has to go for that one. Im usually a try to see the other side kind of guy. And a lot of decisions like the one for this thread, even if I think it's an easy call, it could still be a 60-40 easy call. You can see the other side. I can't believe still that McD made that call. I think it was like 95-5 chance. It was a bad call, but it worked and we have to thank him for it. Doesn't mean it wasn't a bad call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 I didn’t agree with the call when he made it. But despite the rationale he gave, I think it came down to he felt he couldn’t risk turning the ball over at the Colts 41 because he just watched his defense get shredded on a 19-play, 10-minute drive. He probably felt safer giving them the ball deep in their own end and hoping for a miracle. He got it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: And if we went for it on 4th down Odds are you win the game more than if you punt. Those are varified scientific facts. That Odds are better to win the game going for it on 4th and 1 than they are punting. Not some mytical momentum of the game stuff Odds are thrown out in those conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_with_it Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 24 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: And the Math doesnt support any of that. Yeah yeah i have no clue. How many tables did you smash today meathead? None. Im sitting comfortably at my home thousands of miles away preparing myself for what awaits me at work tomorrow. Alas keep toying with namecalling. Maybe thats your calling, football definitely isnt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Just now, TheTruthHurts said: Odds are thrown out in those conditions. Another meaningless statement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardb1952 Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 I would have went for it but I disagree that punting was a gutless call. It takes guts to punt when everyone in the stadium(except the Colts) want you to go for it. (shades of Rex Ryan). I thought it was lost on the Webb interception. Lets hope Peterman can play next week because Webb is a special teamer that can fill in as a QB when absolutely necessary but the odds are he is not going to beat Miami. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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