MAJBobby Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 (edited) 1 minute ago, joesixpack said: then they would have had an easier time doing so from their own 40. no-brainer. The PUNT SAVED 14 yards that is what happened. Well that and hurt the odds to win the football game Anything else is conjecture and a what if drill Edited December 11, 2017 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Just now, MAJBobby said: Or they rip off a sustained drive like they already have Exactly. People forget the Colts just came off a 19 play drive resulting in a TD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 It was the right call. The punt pinned them back. Gives the Colts the second possession. It enables the Bills to win on kick. A TD would only win it if they went for it. The weather too. He made the right assessment. The OP is out of their mind. No need to play high risk, high reward. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 12 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: What was more likely getting the 1st and keeping the drive going or going 70 yards for the TD? Evidently going 70 yards for a TD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, billsfan11 said: Exactly. People forget the Colts just came off a 19 play drive resulting in a TD. 14 points were scored the whole game. People's risk assessment is really screwed. No way they are going 90 yards. A kick then wins it for BFLo. Sure, a kick wins it for Indy. But, no way they even go 70 yards in that quagmire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 I hated the call at the time, and said as much, but I can understand why he did it. If they were stopped on 4th down Indy wouldn't have had to drive very far to be able to attempt a field goal, and at that point a FG wins the game for Indy without giving Buffalo's offense a chance to touch the ball again. McDermott obviously figured that punting gave the Bills offense a better chance a getting the ball back. And he was right. You can call it luck if you want, and there probably was some luck involved (which can be said about anything, really), but he was still right the way I see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 1 minute ago, ExiledInIllinois said: 14 points were scored the whole game. People's risk assessment is really screwed. No way they are going 90 yards. A kick then wins it for BFLo. Sure, a kick wins it for Indy. But, no way they even go 70 yards in that quagmire. That's not even the point. The point is the Bills had to win, not tie. If they get two first downs we are out of the playoffs. Plus we can't kick like in normal conditions. And we only gained 14 yards on the exchange. And McD wasted 15 seconds AND a timeout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 1 minute ago, ExiledInIllinois said: 14 points were scored the whole game. People's risk assessment is really screwed. No way they are going 90 yards. A kick then wins it for BFLo. Sure, a kick wins it for Indy. But, no way they even go 70 yards in that quagmire. They didn't need to go 90 yards. They needed 2 first downs and the Bills season would have been over. If Brissett hits Hilton who is wide open, the Bills would have all been eliminated from the playoffs today. That's literally how close they were from being eliminated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Just now, BillsFan4 said: I hated the call at the time, and said as much, but I can understand why he did it. If they were stopped on 4th down Indy wouldn't have had to drive very far to be able to attempt a field goal, and at that point a FG wins the game for Indy without giving Buffalo's offense a chance to touch the ball again. McDermott obviously figured that punting gave the Bills offense a better chance a getting the ball back. And he was right. You can call it luck if you want, and there probably was some luck involved (which can be said about anything, really), but he was still right the way I see it. So was Marrone right for Punting in Oakland? Rex in Miami ? Just now, billsfan11 said: They didn't need to go 90 yards. They needed 2 first downs and the Bills season would have been over. If Brissett hits Hilton who is wide open, the Bills would have all been eliminated from the playoffs today. That's literally how close they were from being eliminated DING DING DING Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Just now, MAJBobby said: So was Marrone right for Punting in Oakland? Rex in Miami ? You literally can NOT compare the three. Today was something completely outside the norm of an NFL game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Just now, joesixpack said: You literally can NOT compare the three. Today was something completely outside the norm of an NFL game. How so? did the Bills move the ball? what was their running numbers when everyone knows they are running? No different your season is on the line and you have the Ball 4th in short in the OPP side and you punt. Bills have done it now 3 times in 4 years and their season ended 2 of the 3 times with that decision 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: How so? did the Bills move the ball? what was their running numbers when everyone knows they are running? No different your season is on the line and you have the Ball 4th in short in the OPP side and you punt. Bills have done it now 3 times in 4 years and their season ended 2 of the 3 times with that decision Intentional Obtuseness, 15 yard penalty. Automatic first down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishDave Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 9 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: It was the right call. The punt pinned them back. Gives the Colts the second possession. It enables the Bills to win on kick. A TD would only win it if they went for it. The weather too. He made the right assessment. The OP is out of their mind. No need to play high risk, high reward. If that is the line of thought, then why do the Bills choose to receive the ball first in overtime? Shouldn't they have kicked and played defense with the intent to kick a field goal once they force the change of possession? McDermott has some Jauron genes in him. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 5 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: That's not even the point. The point is the Bills had to win, not tie. If they get two first downs we are out of the playoffs. Plus we can't kick like in normal conditions. And we only gained 14 yards on the exchange. And McD wasted 15 seconds AND a timeout. We are out of playoffs anyway... You think we will win 2/2, beat the Cheats in their house and get luck from other teams? The best option to win THIS game was to punt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 1 minute ago, ExiledInIllinois said: We are out of playoffs anyway... You think we will win 2/2, beat the Cheats in their house and get luck from other teams? Somebody is going to get in with help. Might as well be us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, PolishDave said: If that is the line of thought, then why do the Bills choose to receive the ball first in overtime? Shouldn't they have kicked and played defense with the intent to kick a field goal once they force the change of possession? McDermott has some Jauron genes in him. . They opted for receiving because weather. Play "Chuck Knox Ball"... Punting pins back. Game was gonna go deep into OT was the thinking. Best odds to win game. 1 minute ago, reddogblitz said: Somebody is going to get in with help. Might as well be us. Sure! They have a 5% chance of beating the Cheats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 The only thing that matters is that they won. So McDermott was correct. Any other assessment is completely wrong because we know the result. It’s pretty simple folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishDave Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Just now, dubs said: The only thing that matters is that they won. So McDermott was correct. Any other assessment is completely wrong because we know the result. It’s pretty simple folks. How do you know they wouldn't have won if they went for it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLTbills Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 I wasn't happy at the time, but I'm not going to sit back and complain because we won the game. That's all that matters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Just now, PolishDave said: How do you know they wouldn't have won if they went for it? I don’t know. But that’s speculation versus known fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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