aristocrat Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 37 minutes ago, The Wiz said: Atlanta the only team with a winning record that they beat. Although they did hold them to only 7 points. exactly. i'm just curious as to how good they really are. i think the steelers stomp them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris66 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 They beat the Saints as well. Pats arev5-0 on the road Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 It's not at all impossible. I think we beat them the same way we beat the Chiefs. Been saying all year we beat them at least once. Hopefully 3 times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeagentqb Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Well. we haven't produced much pressure with a four man rush, Brady does well when blitzed and he also does pretty good when not pressured. So, my vote would be to blitz and get as much pressure as possible. Think it's the only way we can be competitive as Brady is too accurate and smart to let him study the field in his leisure. He'll complete passes like its practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 26 minutes ago, Chris66 said: They beat the Saints as well. Pats arev5-0 on the road and lost 2 at home, which they "normally" don't do. so..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris66 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 3 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: and lost 2 at home, which they "normally" don't do. so..... They're not playing at home. Last road loss was 2015 afccg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 On offense go heavy and run the ball with Shady and Taylor. Wear their defense down and take time off the clock. You also need to take more chances - a few shots down the field and less punting - go for it on 4th more. On defense, be unpredictable - mix the blitz and coverage almost randomly. Punish the receivers each time the ball is close to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 1 minute ago, Chris66 said: They're not playing at home. Last road loss was 2015 afccg you are a smart fellow... but you missed the point. / sarcasm they had 3 road losses in 15 before any playoff games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 41 minutes ago, aristocrat said: exactly. i'm just curious as to how good they really are. i think the steelers stomp them. Doubt it. NE owns the Steelers. I can't recall the last time Pitt beat them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeSpeed Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Go for it on every 4th down no matter what. The first series our offense doesn't score a TD, will be the last time we are within reach of a victory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROONDOGG55 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Wide 9 on every passing down with an alternate blitzer between the tackles. Keep him in the pocket while we crash it down and force him to make quick throws. Coverage has to be close on the outside to prevent the quick slants and underneath routes. If we force him to throw early, then the CBs can sit in their zone and time to jump the route. Poyer needs to be in the box shadowing Gronk over the top while Lorax jams at the line and plays underneath reading Brady's eyes. Hyde will be the single high safety over top keeping everything underneath. Brown will exclusively play the middle zone while Humber shadows the RB in the flats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris66 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 5 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: you are a smart fellow... but you missed the point. / sarcasm they had 3 road losses in 15 before any playoff games. Is this sarcasm again? No road losses in 2016. Hence last road loss 2015 afccg. 2 minutes ago, ROONDOGG55 said: Wide 9 on every passing down with an alternate blitzer between the tackles. Keep him in the pocket while we crash it down and force him to make quick throws. Coverage has to be close on the outside to prevent the quick slants and underneath routes. If we force him to throw early, then the CBs can sit in their zone and time to jump the route. Poyer needs to be in the box shadowing Gronk over the top while Lorax jams at the line and plays underneath reading Brady's eyes. Hyde will be the single high safety over top keeping everything underneath. Brown will exclusively play the middle zone while Humber shadows the RB in the flats. Are you rewriting the defensive playbook. McD is going zone thats what he does. If he goes man te's and rbs are going to have a field day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeagentqb Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 If the Bills decide to rush only 4 and no blitzes. might as well just rush 2 and put everybody else in coverage. Think gronk will get open for many easy catches and its guaranteed he'll get at least 1 touchdown on us, seems like he always does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaviorPeterman Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 48 minutes ago, aristocrat said: exactly. i'm just curious as to how good they really are. i think the steelers stomp them. Not happening and Tomlin is going to regret the recent comments he made. Hoodie and Brady will send a very loud message when they play them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris66 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 17 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said: Doubt it. NE owns the Steelers. I can't recall the last time Pitt beat them. Nov 30 2008. Cassel was qbing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 15 minutes ago, Chris66 said: Is this sarcasm again? No road losses in 2016. Hence last road loss 2015 afccg. Are you rewriting the defensive playbook. McD is going zone thats what he does. If he goes man te's and rbs are going to have a field day. saying you were a smart fellow was the sarcasm Thanks for the confirmation Chrissy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 10 minutes ago, SaviorPeterman said: Not happening and Tomlin is going to regret the recent comments he made. Hoodie and Brady will send a very loud message when they play them. Please explain how the Pats bottom tier defense will send this loud message. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 1 minute ago, BringBackFergy said: Please explain how the Pats bottom tier defense will send this loud message. Shhhh you don't want to disturb the voices in his head. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROONDOGG55 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 15 minutes ago, Chris66 said: Are you rewriting the defensive playbook. McD is going zone thats what he does. If he goes man te's and rbs are going to have a field day. Um, I was describing a zone coverage scheme. Do you know anything about football, Chris, bandwagon jumper? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris66 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 1 minute ago, BringBackFergy said: Please explain how the Pats bottom tier defense will send this loud message. Look at the last 7 games. Football outsiders in last weeks ranking couldnt quantify their ranking. 2 minutes ago, ROONDOGG55 said: Um, I was describing a zone coverage scheme. Do you know anything about football, Chris, bandwagon jumper? Sorry . i should have read your post better. My bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dulles Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 4 hours ago, Steptide said: Let's play a little game. You're the coach and you come up with the game plan. What do you do? Here's what I'd do. On defense, I would blitz every single snap for the first 4 or 5 drives. While blitzing doesn't slow Brady down (usually), I think if you were to Blitz him on every down this would eventually throw off his game. If the blitzing continues to work, stick with it. If not, do a 3 man rush and drop everyone else in coverage. On offense, I would game plan to throw dump off passes for 5 yards all game long. Create short gains that wear down the clock and make long extended drives for the bills. If we score, onside kick on every kick off. Yes, every kick off. That sounds ridiculous, but at some point you're going to baffle the Pats and throw them off. I cannot see any scenario where we win this game playing the way the bills have played in these 12 weeks. I know that none of what I mentioned will happen. I'm just a fan that has watched the Patriots obliterate the bills the last 17 years Let's go out into the media and stir things up. Let's get Guinness into town to measure how loud the crowd will be. Let's proclaim our "bully-ness" and be full of bull and bluster! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROONDOGG55 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 3 minutes ago, Chris66 said: Sorry . i should have read your post better. My bad All good man, I take back my comment too. Hope this game is not a blow out. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simool Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 4 hours ago, Steptide said: Let's play a little game. You're the coach and you come up with the game plan. What do you do? Here's what I'd do. On defense, I would blitz every single snap for the first 4 or 5 drives. While blitzing doesn't slow Brady down (usually), I think if you were to Blitz him on every down this would eventually throw off his game. If the blitzing continues to work, stick with it. If not, do a 3 man rush and drop everyone else in coverage. On offense, I would game plan to throw dump off passes for 5 yards all game long. Create short gains that wear down the clock and make long extended drives for the bills. If we score, onside kick on every kick off. Yes, every kick off. That sounds ridiculous, but at some point you're going to baffle the Pats and throw them off. I cannot see any scenario where we win this game playing the way the bills have played in these 12 weeks. I know that none of what I mentioned will happen. I'm just a fan that has watched the Patriots obliterate the bills the last 17 years The Bills can beat the Patriots if they trust the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillsFan Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 After 17 years of this, I actually believe the gap in talent between the Bills and Brady is greater than ever. Hard to construct a single scenario no matter ho outlandish in which this game could be competitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWings Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 3 hours ago, dollars 2 donuts said: B Dubs, I agree with killing the clock as much as you can, but I honestly think you can and should do that through the air, too. Heavy doses (maybe) of Clay, O'Leary, Shady and Matthews and don't give their Defense that comfortable feeling of just being able to Tee-off on the run or on Tyrod. That's fine by me...I just get concerned about Tyrod's ability to push the ball down the field. I'm not saying run Shady all the time, but if you can do high-percentage passes that can get 6-7 yards at a time, that's ok, too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 3 minutes ago, simool said: The Bills can beat the Patriots if they trust the process. I "see" Can't touch this 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simool Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 1 minute ago, ShadyBillsFan said: I "see" Can't touch this I can see that, I also see hashtag genius. Dunno. Glad I don't have to read lips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, BuffaloWings said: That's fine by me...I just get concerned about Tyrod's ability to push the ball down the field. I'm not saying run Shady all the time, but if you can do high-percentage passes that can get 6-7 yards at a time, that's ok, too. B Dubs, I'm with you buddy. I know how important this one is. It is weird, though, because I can't get stressed out over it...man...it's the Pats. What do you do? Edited November 28, 2017 by dollars 2 donuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: I "see" Can't touch this I see "I just ****" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 1 minute ago, simool said: I can see that, I also see hashtag genius. Dunno. Glad I don't have to read lips. the correct answer #Genius but I improvised Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadonkadonk Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 1. It's not impossible 2. Blitz Brady mercilessly. He will beat the blitz often but if you can hit him a few times the turnovers might offset the times he beats the blitz. 3. Go no-huddle the entire game 4. Bench Dimarco and play double TE as your base set. Out of this set pass often either via screens, or by motioning Shady out of backfield and lined up out wide. 5. Introduce Dennison and TT to the stop fade pass. Has a Bills QB ever thrown this pass? It is nearly impossible to defend. Both Jones and Mathews have the size to block out the defender and make a grab 10-14 yards downfield. 6. Blitz even more. 7. Bench P. Brown this week and play Humber at MLB and Milano at OLB. Brady and his RBs will kill us if they play short zone or man-to-man with Brown at MLB. 8. Bring Poyer down in the box . Simulate pressure off the edge, back into coverage, and then blitz up the middle 9. Pass on first down 10. When leading by 10 in the fourth quarter, do not get conservative. Keep throwing, go sugar-huddle to keep the threat of a quick snap, and keep blitzing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted November 28, 2017 Author Share Posted November 28, 2017 (edited) I want the bills to do something drastic this week with their game plan. I know McDermott and the staff believes they can just beat them with their own scheme. That's gonna be the most frustrating part watching this game. 3rd and 8 and you're gonna see a handoff to Mccoy for a 3 yard loss in the back field Edited November 28, 2017 by Steptide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloMatt Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 4 hours ago, buffaloboyinATL said: 2 words, Tonya Harding... Actually, Jeff Gillooly. . . 1 minute ago, BuffaloMatt said: Actually, Jeff Gillooly. . . Actually, Joe Theisman . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 44 minutes ago, SaviorPeterman said: Not happening and Tomlin is going to regret the recent comments he made. Hoodie and Brady will send a very loud message when they play them. pats don't have anyone to stop leveon bell. he will put up huge numbers and pats will get beat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloMatt Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 11 minutes ago, Dadonkadonk said: 1. It's not impossible 2. Blitz Brady mercilessly. He will beat the blitz often but if you can hit him a few times the turnovers might offset the times he beats the blitz. 3. Go no-huddle the entire game 4. Bench Dimarco and play double TE as your base set. Out of this set pass often either via screens, or by motioning Shady out of backfield and lined up out wide. 5. Introduce Dennison and TT to the stop fade pass. Has a Bills QB ever thrown this pass? It is nearly impossible to defend. Both Jones and Mathews have the size to block out the defender and make a grab 10-14 yards downfield. 6. Blitz even more. 7. Bench P. Brown this week and play Humber at MLB and Milano at OLB. Brady and his RBs will kill us if they play short zone or man-to-man with Brown at MLB. 8. Bring Poyer down in the box . Simulate pressure off the edge, back into coverage, and then blitz up the middle 9. Pass on first down 10. When leading by 10 in the fourth quarter, do not get conservative. Keep throwing, go sugar-huddle to keep the threat of a quick snap, and keep blitzing. . . . "On Blitzin" . . . Ho Ho Ho. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 (edited) Guys, you know the only thing that is going to bug me on Sunday? Is if it is 24-0 in the third quarter and they are just doing the same old-same old. If you got to 24-0 because you were taking chances and it didn't work, fine. You tried something knowing what you were going against and what you had and it didn't work. I am OK with that. As well if you were down 10-0 doing what you're used to doing...keep going, at least something may come of it and you are in your wheel house. Having the gun fire at the end of the fourth as I first laid it out with the halftime score, and a final tally that ends up being 37-14 becuase you didn't try anything...honestly, that will just p*** me off. Edited November 28, 2017 by dollars 2 donuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloMatt Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 4 hours ago, Steptide said: Let's play a little game. You're the coach and you come up with the game plan. What do you do? Here's what I'd do. On defense, I would blitz every single snap for the first 4 or 5 drives. While blitzing doesn't slow Brady down (usually), I think if you were to Blitz him on every down this would eventually throw off his game. If the blitzing continues to work, stick with it. If not, do a 3 man rush and drop everyone else in coverage. On offense, I would game plan to throw dump off passes for 5 yards all game long. Create short gains that wear down the clock and make long extended drives for the bills. If we score, onside kick on every kick off. Yes, every kick off. That sounds ridiculous, but at some point you're going to baffle the Pats and throw them off. I cannot see any scenario where we win this game playing the way the bills have played in these 12 weeks. I know that none of what I mentioned will happen. I'm just a fan that has watched the Patriots obliterate the bills the last 17 years Find Brady's dildo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livinginthepast Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Its difficult to beat Brady but not impossible. I don't know why coaches in this league don't watch previous Patriot losses and dissect what works for the winning team and if or how that can be mimicked by their own. Wait I do know why, most coaches in the league are morons. Anyway, if you remove all the chance factors or mistakes that the Pats might make in a game (very few) and focus on how to limit the damage Brady can do rather than to try to neutralize him you might have a chance. I honestly think the OP was right. If you don't want him killing your defense with passes then keep him off the field as much as possible. Don't give him the ball EVER!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin in Va Beach Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Gotta have a pass rush and hit Brady a few times. He becomes a little more human when he's been hit a few times. Also jam his receivers at the line and slow them down. They rely on timing and rubs for a large part of their success. We give Brady time to throw and play soft zone on the receivers and we might as well forfeit now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 3 minutes ago, Gavin in Va Beach said: Gotta have a pass rush and hit Brady a few times. He becomes a little more human when he's been hit a few times. Also jam his receivers at the line and slow them down. They rely on timing and rubs for a large part of their success. We give Brady time to throw and play soft zone on the receivers and we might as well forfeit now. This may be one of the more effective tactics we can use. Playing a soft zone will get us destroyed; Pittsburgh showed that during last year's AFC championship game. If McD and Frazier can figure out how to better utilize our DLine and a fifth rusher/blitzer, it could be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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