NewMexBills Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 F this turd! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 Oh, no. No trolling. This is Gugny. He's damn serious. In fact, it's not just the Bills oppressing him. It's America. It's you and you and you and me. It's everyone. Everyone but Gugny. What kind of equity do we have in Boldin? Nothing. The point is: with NFL players, why do teams have the right to deprive a man the right to pursue a career just because they hold his rights. We see how the Steelers treat Bryant by relegating him to the Scout Squad just because he spoke up. God forbid a man make a statement or express his feelings - he is then treated as a bad dog - punished and kept outside for the night. Really pretty sad treatment of fellow man if you ask me (see also Ritchie Incognito. Likewise punished by the NFL for a non-issue). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 What kind of equity do we have in Boldin? Nothing. The point is: with NFL players, why do teams have the right to deprive a man the right to pursue a career just because they hold his rights. We see how the Steelers treat Bryant by relegating him to the Scout Squad just because he spoke up. God forbid a man make a statement or express his feelings - he is then treated as a bad dog - punished and kept outside for the night. Really pretty sad treatment of fellow man if you ask me (see also Ritchie Incognito. Likewise punished by the NFL for a non-issue). Huh? When exactly did Boldin show up at OBD ready to play and was told "no thanks, we're all set at WR"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 I think he got a small signing bonus and gave it back. I thought so as well... but I could not find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 What kind of equity do we have in Boldin? Nothing. The point is: with NFL players, why do teams have the right to deprive a man the right to pursue a career just because they hold his rights. We see how the Steelers treat Bryant by relegating him to the Scout Squad just because he spoke up. God forbid a man make a statement or express his feelings - he is then treated as a bad dog - punished and kept outside for the night. Really pretty sad treatment of fellow man if you ask me (see also Ritchie Incognito. Likewise punished by the NFL for a non-issue). It’s contractual. What’s in writing trumps all else. If we can get a 7th a decade from now, it’s better than nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 Its contractual. Whats in writing trumps all else. If we can get a 7th a decade from now, its better than nothing.I would give up a 7th in 2019 if it means our team is the first to end the perpetual treatment of old players as cattle or shares of stock. These guys are humans... not widgets that can be tucked in a barn and sold only when you feel like it. IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlonce Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 What kind of equity do we have in Boldin? Nothing. The point is: with NFL players, why do teams have the right to deprive a man the right to pursue a career just because they hold his rights. We see how the Steelers treat Bryant by relegating him to the Scout Squad just because he spoke up. God forbid a man make a statement or express his feelings - he is then treated as a bad dog - punished and kept outside for the night. Really pretty sad treatment of fellow man if you ask me (see also Ritchie Incognito. Likewise punished by the NFL for a non-issue). Do we know if he asked to come back to play for the Bills? He signed a contract to play here then reneged on it. I don’t see how the Bills are impeding his right to work unless they refused him a roster spot. After the fact he desired to work elsewhere,as though that contract meant nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 I would give up a 7th in 2019 if it means our team is the first to end the perpetual treatment of old players as cattle or shares of stock. These guys are humans... not widgets that can be tucked in a barn and sold only when you feel like it. IMO I love the feel good/human interest side, but it’s a business. If he’s not worth a 7th 2 years down the road, he’s the problem....he has zero value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 I lol'ed at thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloflash Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 (edited) Oppressing. "unchain him." Like he's out in a field, picking cotton. Asshattery. Agreed He was on the Bills for what, a week? I think it's wrong that they need to approve any kind of trade. I feel that the Bills are treating Boldin as "their property," and it's unjust. But he never played a meaningful down. They should just unchain him and let him go to whichever team he chooses. You got a lot of code pink in you! Edited October 27, 2017 by Buffaloflash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 I would give up a 7th in 2019 if it means our team is the first to end the perpetual treatment of old players as cattle or shares of stock. These guys are humans... not widgets that can be tucked in a barn and sold only when you feel like it. IMO BTW - I am thrilled you re not our GM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 He was on the Bills for what, a week? Like everyone is saying, he's old and washed up, so why does it matter? Why do they need to get something in return? Gugny - you need to try harder. Trolling doesnt come naturally to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 I would give up a 7th in 2019 if it means our team is the first to end the perpetual treatment of old players as cattle or shares of stock. These guys are humans... not widgets that can be tucked in a barn and sold only when you feel like it. IMO Poor, poor players who make millions upon millions of dollars that agree to collective bargaining agreements and rules establishing their rights as players. When they agreed and signed as competent adult males, it became their decision and not yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albwan Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 oppression. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick the Greek Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 I'd take a 7th if he would be sent to the NFC, and not an NFC team left on our schedule this year. 7th is about the best we could do I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 He was on the Bills for what, a week? I think it's wrong that they need to approve any kind of trade. Just let the man pursue his dreams and further his career. I feel that the Bills are treating Boldin as "their property," and it's unjust. If he'd had a longer tenure with Buffalo, YES, I would get it. But he never played a meaningful down. They should just unchain him and let him go to whichever team he chooses. Like everyone is saying, he's old and washed up, so why does it matter? Why do they need to get something in return? Business is business. Why would the Bills potentially give up a tradeable asset for no reason? Makes zero sense. He signed the contract then quit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuSeYiN_NYC Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 (edited) Boldin for a 7th round pick to whatever team wants him. If that don't work, then Boldin for a McDonald's hot coffee light and sweet will work too... But seriously, I agree with the majority here. He signed a contract and that's that. Not like he will do much for a team anyway (man is he slow or what?), but I like how Beane is handling the situation. Edited October 27, 2017 by HuSeYiN_NYC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 (edited) He was on the Bills for what, a week? I think it's wrong that they need to approve any kind of trade. Just let the man pursue his dreams and further his career. I feel that the Bills are treating Boldin as "their property," and it's unjust. If he'd had a longer tenure with Buffalo, YES, I would get it. But he never played a meaningful down. They should just unchain him and let him go to whichever team he chooses. Like everyone is saying, he's old and washed up, so why does it matter? Why do they need to get something in return? Is this actually non-sarcastic? Appears 90% kidding, but ... Anyway, they wasted time on him. If they can get something for him they should. He probably got a few hundred bucks too for his time at camp or activities. They've got his rights. If he isn't going to retire, he should be here. Edited October 27, 2017 by Thurman#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloflash Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 I would give up a 7th in 2019 if it means our team is the first to end the perpetual treatment of old players as cattle or shares of stock. These guys are humans... not widgets that can be tucked in a barn and sold only when you feel like it. IMO https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJcwqyhUtH0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Kevi Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 I don't subscribe to the premise of this thread. Moreover, I find the use of "oppressed" in this situation to be extraordinarily disrepectful and intellectually disingenuous. Boldin is unquestionably a professional. In his professional opinion, it was worth it for him to enter into the contract with the Bills. Now he has to honor the agreement he made. You guys think we should have released Jim Kelly's rights too? Was Jim oppressed? Where the !@#$ are we as a society when somebody wants to break a fair and binding employment contract, and somehow the other party on the contract is oppressing him? It is Boldin who is not doing what he said he would, is not living up to the deal, and it is obvious "retiring" was just a ploy to gain attention and/or get to play for a team he wanted to. No sympathy from me for a pro athlete who clearly knew what he was getting into, and has reaped the benefit of the NFL money machine long enough to know how it works. I would give up a 7th in 2019 if it means our team is the first to end the perpetual treatment of old players as cattle or shares of stock. These guys are humans... not widgets that can be tucked in a barn and sold only when you feel like it. IMO Multimillionaire cattle that live a richer life than almost everyone else on the planet. Cry me a river. They should be prepared to fulfill the obligations of the contracts that they sign, just like everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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