Brianmoorman4jesus Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 I think the Bills FO owes it to the players to make a move for a WR. The Bills did a great job collecting future picks. So much so that in 18, we have 2 picks in each of the first 3 rounds. We are in great shape going in that regard. That seemed to be the plan going into this season. I dont feel however, that the Bills FO expected us to be this competitive this season. In a down year in the AFC east and the AFC as a whole, the Bills have a legit shot at ending this drought. When healthy our receiving core is at best pedestrian. The way it is right now, is not even acceptable. We are sitting at 3-2 at the bye and very much alive. We have 2 weeks to get a new player ready to go. We have plenty of extra draft picks at our disposal. I feel the Bills need to use one of those picks, to go out and trade for a good WR. Not some teams 4th or 5th guy...A guy that can actually help. Take one of the 3rds we have and try and get either Pierre Garçon or Keenan Allen. Both of those guys would be our #1 WR tomorrow. They also are both on teams that are going nowhere. Tyrod Taylor is far from good, but he needs more help then this. IMO this season is facing a crossroad. If we sit back and do nothing here, I cant see us going anywhere. If we go out and get a player that can actually help the offense, the playoffs are a real possibility. Even if we deal a 2nd or 3rd, we still have 5 other picks in those first 3 rounds. Make a move that helps us now. Go Bills! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 This management is not going to make any knee jerk decisions. They are getting their guys and will add more next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaviorPeterman Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 If Clay is lost for the season or even a month I don't see how Beane and McD have any choice but to make a move especially with Jordan Matthews already on the shelf. Not saying we need to trade one of our 1st or 2nd round picks, but a 3rd rounder or later (+ Glenn possibly) can certainly land us a viable starter that would likely be 10X better than the slop we have now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted October 8, 2017 Author Share Posted October 8, 2017 I dont expect us to do anything. I expect to hear a bunch of garbage about how low level players need to step up and we will just lose any games that we cant run the ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 (edited) Why spend any draft picks? There are plenty of FA's sitting, wanting a call whom can still ball. Bring in Vincent Jackson and Stevie Johnson = Done (Both want to play and easily are better than anything we have) Others who want a call: Colston V.CruZ Do something Beane! Late August Stevie says he wants to help! https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2017/8/24/16196050/stevie-johnson-buffalo-bills-receiver-anquan-boldin-retirement-sammy-watkins-jordan-matthews Edited October 8, 2017 by Real McCoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted October 8, 2017 Author Share Posted October 8, 2017 Why spend any draft picks? There are plenty of FA's sitting wanting a call whom can still ball. Bring in Vincent Jackson and Stevie Johnson = Done Those guys are old and slow now. I want players that can help us now. Not 5 years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Those guys are old and slow now. I want players that can help us now. Not 5 years ago The new guys have a bunch more changes to make, no need to invest anything further into this season. Keep the guys playing hard then execute during the offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 They need to do something to get a viable starter in here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sig1Hunter Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Bringing players in during the season rarely adds much to the team during the same season. There is so much to learn, and so little time and practice to learn it. You VERY rarely see in-season trades in the NFL. This isn't MLB or the NHL. I highly doubt they make a move for a 'name' receiver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Those guys are old and slow now. I want players that can help us now. Not 5 years ago We have one...his name is Brandon Reilly...the next Welker for the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 (edited) Those guys are old and slow now. I want players that can help us now. Not 5 years ago Stevie is 31, Cruz is 30 and VJAX is 34. And I take any one of these guys over anything we have now. It's OK to bring old ass Boldin in though at 36? Edited October 8, 2017 by Real McCoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 I dont expect anything like this to happen. I expect more of the same, for better or worse, until guys can get healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted October 8, 2017 Author Share Posted October 8, 2017 The new guys have a bunch more changes to make, no need to invest anything further into this season. Keep the guys playing hard then execute during the offseason.There is a need. There are players and coaches on the team they are trying to win now. They may not have jobs next season. Not to mention the fans. When you have a chance to go for it, you go for it. We are in a better spot for next years draft then we have been forever. 1 pick wont undo that. You never know when you will get another shot. Look st the Giants this year. I like an hour from MetLife: in the media, they were taking super bowl in the preseason. They are 0-5...When you have a chance to get in, you try and get in. You never know what next year will be. Swing for it now Stevie is 31 and VJAX is 34. And I take either one of these guys over anything we have now. It's OK to bring old ass Boldin in though at 36? Yeah, how did that work out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 I dont expect anything like this to happen. I expect more of the same, for better or worse, until guys can get healthy. Most likely this is what will happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Why spend any draft picks? There are plenty of FA's sitting, wanting a call whom can still ball. Bring in Vincent Jackson and Stevie Johnson = Done (Both want to play and easily are better than anything we have) Others who want a call: Colston V.CruZ Do something Beane! Late August Stevie says he wants to help! https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2017/8/24/16196050/stevie-johnson-buffalo-bills-receiver-anquan-boldin-retirement-sammy-watkins-jordan-matthews Yeah, I dont want to burn any draft picks during the bye week, but I would like to see a couple names brought in. Adjustments are going have to be made, interesting to see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingston Bills Fan Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 (edited) Well stupidly end up using up all the picks we stock piled to move up in the draft to get our QB. When all we had to do is lose and use only one pick to get him. We have a terrible O-line no receivers and the oldest defence in the league we need to start losing cause this offence is a right off and we need to use all our picks to fixit and the higher the better Edited October 9, 2017 by Kingston Bills Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sig1Hunter Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 There is a need. There are players and coaches on the team they are trying to win now. They may not have jobs next season. Not to mention the fans. When you have a chance to go for it, you go for it. We are in a better spot for next years draft then we have been forever. 1 pick wont undo that. You never know when you will get another shot. Look st the Giants this year. I like an hour from MetLife: in the media, they were taking super bowl in the preseason. They are 0-5...When you have a chance to get in, you try and get in. You never know what next year will be. Swing for it now Super Bowl??? You think we are Super Bowl contenders this year? I admit, it would be nice to make the playoffs this year for the mere fact of getting that monkey off of the teams back...but selling a bright future that would hopefully include sustained success for the chance of making the playoffs this year? No thanks. Let the young guys take their lumps and see where the chips fall. Build the foundation this year. Next year, the walls. Year 3 will be the roof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfanAZ Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 I can see the Bills calling Barnidge. I dont expect them to bring in any WR's from the outside but it would make me happy if they did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 (edited) There is a need. There are players and coaches on the team they are trying to win now. They may not have jobs next season. Not to mention the fans. When you have a chance to go for it, you go for it. We are in a better spot for next years draft then we have been forever. 1 pick wont undo that. You never know when you will get another shot. Look st the Giants this year. I like an hour from MetLife: in the media, they were taking super bowl in the preseason. They are 0-5...When you have a chance to get in, you try and get in. You never know what next year will be. Swing for it now Yeah, how did that work out? Boldin retired cause he knew he had nothing left. McD brought him here, he'd be playing today if not retiring. I'd have zero problem bringing Stevie and VJax here. They are not long term solutions, but can get you this year and maybe another. Both productive former #1 guys, with leadership abilities and instant upgrades over what we have by ALOT. Edited October 9, 2017 by Real McCoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 (edited) Most likely this is what will happen. You also have to consider how unlikely it is that we actually use as many picks we have on players. We probably arent going to add that many rookies to the team so I expect us to use some picks to move up a few times and address some needs. Edited October 9, 2017 by Bangarang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted October 9, 2017 Author Share Posted October 9, 2017 (edited) Super Bowl??? You think we are Super Bowl contenders this year? I admit, it would be nice to make the playoffs this year for the mere fact of getting that monkey off of the teams back...but selling a bright future that would hopefully include sustained success for the chance of making the playoffs this year? No thanks. Let the young guys take their lumps and see where the chips fall. Build the foundation this year. Next year, the walls. Year 3 will be the roof.I never said anything like that. I said the GIANTS media was talking super bowl in the off-season and now they are 0-5. I was saying you never just write seasons off and expect next year to be anything. Edited October 9, 2017 by Brianmoorman4jesus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 There is a need. There are players and coaches on the team they are trying to win now. They may not have jobs next season. Not to mention the fans. When you have a chance to go for it, you go for it. We are in a better spot for next years draft then we have been forever. 1 pick wont undo that. You never know when you will get another shot. Look st the Giants this year. I like an hour from MetLife: in the media, they were taking super bowl in the preseason. They are 0-5...When you have a chance to get in, you try and get in. You never know what next year will be. Swing for it now Yeah, how did that work out? Go for what exactly? It's an overachieving team playing their asses of for what looks to be a 7-9 season. That's a good job by McBeane and all the talk will be about the Bills stockpile of picks come this spring. This season was all about not face planting and so far they have accomplished that whilst sending some me first guys packing. A job well done, making moves for the non existent "now" would be a set back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingston Bills Fan Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 You also have to consider how unlikely it is that we actually use as many picks we have on players. We probably arent going to add that many rookies to the team so I expect us to use some picks to move up a few times and address some needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VADC Bills Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 We have one...his name is Brandon Reilly...the next Welker for the Bills. I would add Dez Lewis to the list as well. Why not Shorts they are familiar with the system. Enough of the Philly Brown talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingston Bills Fan Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Or we lose out and not have to waste picks moving up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 What are you going to do when #25 goes down? Call for another trade? It just doesn't make sense to trade future assets in hopes of plugging a hole on a middling roster that lacks depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted October 9, 2017 Author Share Posted October 9, 2017 Go for what exactly? It's an overachieving team playing their asses of for what looks to be a 7-9 season. That's a good job by McBeane and all the talk will be about the Bills stockpile of picks come this spring. This season was all about not face planting and so far they have accomplished that whilst sending some me first guys packing. A job well done, making moves for the non existent "now" would be a set back. No, it wouldnt be. If you can get Keenan Allen for a3rd, he not only will help you this year but he can help you going forward. Also the chances of a 3rd being as good as he is are slim to none. If you can get a wildcard and eve this drought, its worth it no question Its all moot anyway. We all know this team will just go the cheap safe way and do nothing. We will just start players at WR that wouldnt even be on active rosters for good teams. Im sure we can win that way....Start some teams reject 3rd string trash and then complain about the qb not moving the ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Have to scower the practice squads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Next man up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 No, it wouldnt be. If you can get Keenan Allen for a3rd, he not only will help you this year but he can help you going forward. Also the chances of a 3rd being as good as he is are slim to none. If you can get a wildcard and eve this drought, its worth it no question Its all moot anyway. We all know this team will just go the cheap safe way and do nothing. We will just start players at WR that wouldnt even be on active rosters for good teams. Im sure we can win that way....Start some teams reject 3rd string trash and then complain about the qb not moving the ball Once you accept that the QB is a place holder and the roster is in flux you will better understand whats about to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted October 9, 2017 Author Share Posted October 9, 2017 (edited) Once you accept that the QB is a place holder and the roster is in flux you will better understand whats about to happen.I fully understand whats about to happen. I just think its wrong, I know we will sit on our hands and because of it, we will blow the season.Next man upThats why we never win Edited October 9, 2017 by Brianmoorman4jesus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 I fully understand whats about to happen. I just think its wrong, I know we will sit on our hands and because of it, we will blow the season. Thats why we never win The new guys have shown some foresight so they get off easy with me. I see what needs to happen and that might not be the best thing for 17' but long term it gives me hope. Keep competing. Nail the draft. End the misery. Don't trade away assets in hope of limping into a playoff birth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offyourocker Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Boldin retired cause he knew he had nothing left. McD brought him here, he'd be playing today if not retiring. I'd have zero problem bringing Stevie and VJax here. They are not long term solutions, but can get you this year and maybe another. Both productive former #1 guys, with leadership abilities and instant upgrades over what we have by ALOT. VJax is definitely done. But i would give Stevie a chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFBillsfan Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Most likely this is what will happen. I agree as well. IMO, today was a prime example of the Bills doing what they have done in the past. They failed to do anything to upgrade the roster and instead just roll out whoever. The lack of WR talent on this roster is embarrassing and outside of Clay the TE talent is below average as well. Sure the Defense has improved but the offense has gone backwards. Sitting Glenn, having Miller non active and starting Ducasse are major head scratchers against a good Bengal DL. Is it really surprising the run game struggled yet again. This was a very winnable game and could of been a huge step forward. They would of had a two game lead in the division. My gut still tells me Beane and McDermott really aren't all in this year. If they win great but I really don't think that is the core objective this season. Hope I'm wrong but this game reminded me too much of the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 I would add Dez Lewis to the list as well. Why not Shorts they are familiar with the system. Enough of the Philly Brown talk. Understood: Philly Brown is not a particularly good WR. But ... they signed him in the offseason after he played with McD in Carolina, so obviously McD saw something in him. He was in the rotation with the Panthers during their Super Bowl year, so he has some value. At this point the "no particularly good" thing is irrelevant! The relevant question is, "is he better than what we've got right now?" And it seems to me the answer is an obvious "yes," so I really don't understand why they sent him packing again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100DollarBills Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 I dont expect anything like this to happen. I expect more of the same, for better or worse, until guys can get healthy. Just enjoy the ****show, breath it in and just bask in it. Next year is the true beginning of something great, and we finally get our guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted October 9, 2017 Author Share Posted October 9, 2017 Just enjoy the ****show, breath it in and just bask in it. Next year is the true beginning of something great, and we finally get our guy. You have no idea that it will be that way. You are going to have way to many teams that need a qb that are worse then us. They dont have to trade out with us. The chiefs pick might be in the 30s. Nobody knows this and expecting it to be the case is just crazy. We are probably going to end up with the Losman of this draft and who would trust these guys to identify the right guy anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8-8 Forever? Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 (edited) This management is not going to make any knee jerk decisions. They are getting their guys and will add more next year. Correct. Pretty difficult to bring starters in in week 6, unless they are already familiar with the offense. eg. Boldin would make sense. Is what it is. Free agents, raiding other teams practice squads. This ain't fantasy football. Stick to the process. The team will work hard, but from a fans perspective, this season will be whatever it will be. Edited October 9, 2017 by 8-8 Forever? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted October 9, 2017 Author Share Posted October 9, 2017 Now the same guys on wgr that always act like nothing matters beyond the qb, are complaining about the weapons tyrod has. Schopp did it yesterday too. All these guys do is say how trivial it is to talk about transactions of players from other position. They act like the nfl is a game if 1 on 1 between the qbs. Now all of a sudden its about the WRs not being good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webster Guy Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Bringing players in during the season rarely adds much to the team during the same season. There is so much to learn, and so little time and practice to learn it. You VERY rarely see in-season trades in the NFL. This isn't MLB or the NHL. I highly doubt they make a move for a 'name' receiver. This is a good point. Maybe a running back or an edge rusher could make a difference immediately, as their job is a little more simple and requires less chemistry and team reps. But its probably too late for a WR this season. Also we're assuming our WR's weren't getting open. Last year with Sammy, Woods and Clay Tyrod still had similar games to yesterdays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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