Royale with Cheese Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 He's had 5 balls hit him in both hands in 4 weeks. The Carolina one is the only one that could be argued, but even then it was an error in his route (which he has learned from). He absolutely has had more than 1 drop. I wouldn't consider the Carolina one a drop but I don't put it on Taylor either. It was a tough catch because he didn't get to the spot he needed to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Doesn't Sammy have more yards and touchdowns than Matthews so far? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Doesn't Sammy have more yards and touchdowns than Matthews so far? No. Watkins has 14 receptions for 167 yards and 2 TDs. Matthews has 10 receptions for 235 yards and 1 TD. Sorry your narrative didn't work out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 3-1 record with the NFL's highest scoring offense is the bottom line. Sean McVay is a prodigy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Odell Beckham, Jr. has only played in three games through the first four weeks of the season, but leads the NFL in dropped passes with four. https://football.realgm.com/wiretap/39342/Odell-Beckham-Marqise-Lee-Lead-NFL-In-Dropped-Passes just sayin.... I have personally watched Amari Cooper drop more than 4 passes this year. I don't trust the "drops" stat. Every year it doesn't match up with what I see in the games. They say Zay has 1 drop this year? That's why drops aren't an official stat... Wow that's just plain wrong. Even ignoring the Carolina game he has had a few drops. Who is tracking this stuff?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan2313 Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 (edited) No. Watkins has 14 receptions for 167 yards and 2 TDs. Matthews has 10 receptions for 235 yards and 1 TD. Sorry your narrative didn't work out. Watkins has 211 yards https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/W/WatkSa00.htm Matthews has 162 yards https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MattJo00.htm Edited October 4, 2017 by Deceptikhans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Wow that's just plain wrong. Even ignoring the Carolina game he has had a few drops. Who is tracking this stuff?? Back in HS I was injured for one BB season. Coach had me sit in the stands and keep track of various stats. I always padded the rebounding stats of my buddies and shorted the stats for one particular player I didn't get along with. Besides using my "stats" himself the coach provided them to any media who made a request. Maybe that's how the drops stat is managed and possibly the reason why Powell was released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 (edited) Back in HS I was injured for one BB season. Coach had me sit in the stands and keep track of various stats. I always padded the rebounding stats of my buddies and shorted the stats for one particular player I didn't get along with. Besides using my "stats" himself the coach provided them to any media who made a request. Maybe that's how the drops stat is managed and possibly the reason why Powell was released. bb - breaking bad? Bb - bocce ball? Bb - Boys ballet? It's that kind of Thursday that I was clueless to what bb was until I saw rebound. I need more rest or more caffiene. Caffiene does me wonders. Edited October 4, 2017 by Boyst62 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeginnersMind Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 I have personally watched Amari Cooper drop more than 4 passes this year. I don't trust the "drops" stat. Every year it doesn't match up with what I see in the games. Wow that's just plain wrong. Even ignoring the Carolina game he has had a few drops. Who is tracking this stuff?? There was one in the Atlanta game that looked like a drop but the announcer said the defender deflected to the ground. They didn't show a replay. The Holmes TD catch was probably not counted as a drop because of the result but it was. There was a catch last week that would have been tough but similar to the Carolina play, could have been made. Kid is in his own head. Make him catch a bunch of balls and get this phase over with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 No. Watkins has 14 receptions for 167 yards and 2 TDs. Matthews has 10 receptions for 235 yards and 1 TD. Sorry your narrative didn't work out. No, those numbers are wrong. Watkins has 211 yards https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/W/WatkSa00.htm Matthews has 162 yards https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MattJo00.htm But besides that.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 No, those numbers are wrong. But besides that.... my bad, I read 235 from his career receptions. Too bad, sammy has 1 year left on his deal and is supposed to be a superstar though, but is 1 game against the 49ers away from Matthews, but even being wrong, I'm more right than you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeginnersMind Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 When the "better guy" has 200 yards receiving through 4 games, it's a battle on the undercard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 (edited) Sean McVay is a prodigy. Maybe but it's also likely he is just another case study on management giving a new HC so much talent that it's harder to fail than succeed. Adding Whitworth, Watkins, Woods and Kupp.........I mean, that greatly changed their offensive dynamic........they were losing all of those matchups last year and now they have 4 guys that are winning key matchups in the passing game.........it's a game changer. The Bills experienced some of that early in 2015. Months earlier people were wondering if they were going to be anything but run-it and punt-it but adding Taylor, Incognito, McCoy and Harvin turned them into a dynamic offense. Giants kinda' did the same thing loading up the defense for McAdoo last year.........but eventually if you aren't a special coach it shows up. Edited October 4, 2017 by #BADOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 my bad, I read 235 from his career receptions. Too bad, sammy has 1 year left on his deal and is supposed to be a superstar though, but is 1 game against the 49ers away from Matthews, but even being wrong, I'm more right than you. Actually, I don't think that's how that works. Doesn't Sammy have more yards and touchdowns than Matthews so far? No. Watkins has 14 receptions for 167 yards and 2 TDs. Matthews has 10 receptions for 235 yards and 1 TD. Sorry your narrative didn't work out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 No. Watkins has 14 receptions for 167 yards and 2 TDs. Matthews has 10 receptions for 235 yards and 1 TD. Sorry your narrative didn't work out. my bad, I read 235 from his career receptions. Too bad, sammy has 1 year left on his deal and is supposed to be a superstar though, but is 1 game against the 49ers away from Matthews, but even being wrong, I'm more right than you. Hilarious stupidity on your part ..........love that mumbled last sentence........but,but,but Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artmalibu Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 When the "better guy" has 200 yards receiving through 4 games, it's a battle on the undercard. This!!!!! Average 50 yards a game from a generational talent???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 So why is that other great receivers who actually have been more of a threat than Sammy are consistently able to get production? Opposing teams don't make these adjustments to take them out? Why is it that this reasoning applies for Sammy but not all the other good receivers? That's where this argument that you pose comes apart. We are only a quarter way into the season, and there is plenty of time for Sammy to turn around his 850 yards 55 catches for the season pace that he is on right now. The good WR's in this league are in the 70-90 receptions 1000-1200 yards The elite WR's are in the 80-100 receptions 1200 to 1450 yards At some point, the production will have to be on par with the elites to justify the money he was looking for. If he doesn't get those elite numbers then there is virtually very little basis for the money he believes he's worth. Hes what, like a 25 yard catch every other week off the pace of the good in your example.and I'd bet if you paced out his season through three weeks he'd be at the higher end of the good. In a new offense with a lot of options a young qb and only a few weeks in town. I don't know that he has to "turn his season around" quite yet. my bad, I read 235 from his career receptions. Too bad, sammy has 1 year left on his deal and is supposed to be a superstar though, but is 1 game against the 49ers away from Matthews, but even being wrong, I'm more right than you. That's a fantastic post. It's been quoted a lot but deserves to live in infamy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 He's got the talent, it's a matter of putting it all together. But at some point his production will have to finally match his talent level and the excuses of injuries, not getting the ball thrown to him, QB's fault, decoy etc etc will have to end. I don't know that he has to "turn his season around" quite yet. I think if he wants to sort of money he envisioned himself receiving he will have to turn it around, don't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 He's got the talent, it's a matter of putting it all together. But at some point his production will have to finally match his talent level and the excuses of injuries, not getting the ball thrown to him, QB's fault, decoy etc etc will have to end. I think if he wants to sort of money he envisioned himself receiving he will have to turn it around, don't you? I do. ~15mil for an occasional 100 yard receiver and decoy the rest of the time is not how you build a team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeginnersMind Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 This!!!!! Average 50 yards a game from a generational talent???? All the other yards of offense are Sammy's too because he's all other teams focus on. So it's more like he has 1400 yards of offense so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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