LABILLBACKER Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Why? Not disagreeing, just curious why you feel that way. Kinda slow off the snap. He doesn't really have any distinguishable moves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 What type of determination? That teams don't draft 4-3 DE's in round 1 for their run defense? How will a healthy year from Shaq change that.........are teams going to rush to the podium for DE's who can beat a TE's block in run defense? Ability/skill. I didn't check to compare their 40 times. Think I made the point pretty clear about different skill levels. Shaq has some clear deficiencies as a pass rusher........the first and most debilitating to his pass rush game is a terrible first step. I'm not saying he could never have a 10 sack season...........but those are A LOT harder to string together than most people seem to understand here...........and what YOU are proposing.......that he could put up healthy Justin Houston numbers.......a guy who once had over 20 sacks.........that's a REAL reach. At the same time, we saw 1 game of Shaq, fully healthy , and in a new scheme and Lorax took the majority of snaps on 3rd downs , where their only responsibility is to get pressure, we don't know Shaq's ceiling, let's get a bigger sample size. How about him at DT on a couple plays? I think the kid is going to be a beast , and is a perfect compliment to Hughes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted September 15, 2017 Author Share Posted September 15, 2017 At the same time, we saw 1 game of Shaq, fully healthy , and in a new scheme and Lorax took the majority of snaps on 3rd downs , where their only responsibility is to get pressure, we don't know Shaq's ceiling, let's get a bigger sample size. How about him at DT on a couple plays? I think the kid is going to be a beast , and is a perfect compliment to Hughes. No need for a larger sample size. BADOL and a few others here already know exactly what Shaq is going to become and that he wasn't worth a first-round pick. But don't ask for real evidence (film examples, statistics, etc.), you'll have to just take their word for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfansinceday1 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 No need for a larger sample size. BADOL and a few others here already know exactly what Shaq is going to become and that he wasn't worth a first-round pick. But don't ask for real evidence (film examples, statistics, etc.), you'll have to just take their word for it. Some people just know stuff. "It's a gift". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardb1952 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 You like your first round pick to impact the game. If Shaq can basically shut down the running game on his side of the field, I say he is having an impact. He is slow off the ball but that is what he does. It doesn't appear to affect his ability to contain. Sacks are overrated. Contain and apply pressure is Shaq's forte. He will get his sacks as a result of breakdowns when the QB is disrupted from getting the ball out as planned. I love the run defense this year, and Shaq is an important part of that. It helps he has MD, JH and KW on that line with him. If he only has 5 - 6 sacks this season but shuts down the ability of the opposing defense to effectively run on his side of the field, he will have "done his job". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 No need for a larger sample size. BADOL and a few others here already know exactly what Shaq is going to become and that he wasn't worth a first-round pick. But don't ask for real evidence (film examples, statistics, etc.), you'll have to just take their word for it. Here's a stat. 1 sack in his NFL career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Here's a stat. 1 sack in his NFL career. That is also an incorrect stat. It's 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Here's a stat. 1 sack in his NFL career. Incorrect...2 starts, 2 career sacks. Both coming as lb in 3/4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 That is also an incorrect stat. It's 2. Oh well. He's got a long way to go to 8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Been a while since I checked in... should we be running him out of town? He sucks now? What am I supposed to think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 He'll just blame it on someone else. Then he can write a book and call it 'What Happened' ....oh wait, that excuse tour is still making the rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YattaOkasan Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 I thought he was required to make run/pass reads a clemson which explained his "slowness" off the ball. Can we put that to bed now? https://www.buffalorumblings.com/buffalo-bills-analysis-all-22/2016/5/15/11673640/shaq-lawson-pass-rushing-reads-scouting-nfl-pass-rushers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Been a while since I checked in... should we be running him out of town? He sucks now? What am I supposed to think? Who else have we run out of town? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Oh well. He's got a long way to go to 8. Thats a pretty good response considering you have egg all over your face. And we are coming up on game TWO of a 16 game season Jesus your takes are bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 No need for a larger sample size. BADOL and a few others here already know exactly what Shaq is going to become and that he wasn't worth a first-round pick. But don't ask for real evidence (film examples, statistics, etc.), you'll have to just take their word for it. But some of those same guys want us to give Marcell more time.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 (edited) Thats a pretty good response considering you have egg all over your face. And we are coming up on game TWO of a 16 game season Jesus your takes are bad Lol JfH would pride himself on 2 sacks instead of one on the career of a second year 1st round player. Enjoy! Edited September 15, 2017 by jmc12290 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Its......one.....game In all honesty Im not worried about this right now....sacks come in bunches for these guys and by the end of the season I think he will have a respectable total.... one game or not, he hasn't shown much to what people want and expect. He hasn't shown growth or development either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 one game or not, he hasn't shown much to what people want and expect. He hasn't shown growth or development eitherYou mean what YOU want and expect. No growth? You think his coaches feel the same? Gimme a break... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 You mean what YOU want and expect. No growth? You think his coaches feel the same? Gimme a break...k. What's your take? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Lol JfH would pride himself on 2 sacks instead of one on the career of a second year 1st round player. Enjoy! I dont know if I should bother to point out just how wrong this post is..... naaaaa one game or not, he hasn't shown much to what people want and expect. He hasn't shown growth or development either I just think you have to look at production over a collection of games..... Last year? I throw that out and dont even count it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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