dave mcbride Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Minimum for 2nd year is $540K . Pretty darn close. Practice squad guys get $7200. Pretty remarkable, actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Damn..is that more than we owed him on a rookie deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 There's no way he's making that much on the practice squad.Yup. https://twitter.com/rapsheet/status/905158343613927428 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 (edited) That is a great situation for him imo! I feel like their RBs are always hurt and he has a chance to get called up. Giving him that much $$ imo decreases the chances of other teams sniffing around to sign him. Edited September 5, 2017 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 There's no way he's making that much on the practice squad. Especially since nobody wanted him. Now way DEN lets him go to another team with that big of an investment. Good for him and the Broncos. @MikeKlis Broncos signing ex-Bills/Arkansas RB Jonathan Williams to practice squad. Per @RapSheet Williams getting $510K, or near $540K min. #9sports Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 That is a great situation for him imo! I feel like their RBs are always hurt and he has a chance to get called up. Giving him that much $$ imo decreases the chances of other teams sniffing around to sign him. Yep, he's being paid about what a typical third string RB makes. That's about where I'd value him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 (edited) Yep, he's being paid about what a typical third string RB makes. That's about where I'd value him. Yeah much better value for the team than say over paying an aging vet like Tolbert. Edited September 5, 2017 by Commonsense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Yeah much better value for the team than say over paying an aging vet like Tolbert. So Elway > McBeane? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 So basically the market puts Jon Williams as the best practice squad player in the league. Not worth a 30 page forum meltdown but pretty good! I'm happy for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Yeah much better value for the team than say over paying an aging vet like Tolbert. Tolbert gets the vet minimum. That's overpaying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Tolbert gets the vet minimum. That's overpaying? Are they paying more for a journeyman RB who hasn't had any semblance of success in the past 3 or 4 years than they would have paid a guy on a rookie contract? Tolbert had something like 3.1 YPC last season, he is overweight and had about one good season in his entire career. What's the smarter move? Pay the younger guy less money knowing that at minimum he can duplicate the vets production and at best he can be #1 RB after Shady goes to bed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 If it was competitive, why is he only on a practice squad? Likely to learn the playbook, then get added to the active 53 probably in week 3. Probably replacing Devontea Booker at RB3... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Are they paying more for a journeyman RB who hasn't had any semblance of success in the past 3 or 4 years than they would have paid a guy on a rookie contract? Tolbert had something like 3.1 YPC last season, he is overweight and had about one good season in his entire career. What's the smarter move? Pay the younger guy less money knowing that at minimum he can duplicate the vets production and at best he can be #1 RB after Shady goes to bed? Tolbert is a better pass blocker, better run blocker, can fill in at fullback and even flashed more in the training camp practices I saw than Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Likely to learn the playbook, then get added to the active 53 probably in week 3. Probably replacing Devontea Booker at RB3...he will be on the active roster as sooon as they have a spot available at that salary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Yeah much better value for the team than say over paying an aging vet like Tolbert. Better value while on the PS? I'm guessing that at $500,000 they will eventually bring him off the PS. I think he's a serviceable RB that if given the opportunity could do about what you typically see out of your every day back up RB. If he had made our team and had been the primary backup I'd been perfectly ok with it, but the fact that he didn't make it and some of our fans went apoplectic over his release and that no team decided to pick him up off of waivers just goes to show you that typically fans views of back up players aren't normally inline with actual NFL evaluators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 he will be on the active roster as sooon as they have a spot available at that salary Yep. Booker's wrist injury must be worse than DEN thought. Great place to learn behind vets Anderson and Charles... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Are they paying more for a journeyman RB who hasn't had any semblance of success in the past 3 or 4 years than they would have paid a guy on a rookie contract? Tolbert had something like 3.1 YPC last season, he is overweight and had about one good season in his entire career. What's the smarter move? Pay the younger guy less money knowing that at minimum he can duplicate the vets production and at best he can be #1 RB after Shady goes to bed? That's not the calculation. We are talking about two different shaped pegs. JWill is more of the sort of back that you expect basically just run the football. Tolbert is more of a short yardage guy, who is a better receiver, blocker and special teamer. We aren't talking about Tolbert fulfilling the same roles that Jwill would have had, but more that the calculation the Bills made was that between the RB stable they currently have that they didn't believe there would be much if any of a drop off in overall carrying skills and more value with the guys they chose in blocking, receiving and special teams. Maybe they made the wrong decision, but that was the calculation. I happen to think they could be right as I don't see much of a difference typically from your 30th ranked RB's in this league to your 200th ranked ones when it comes to carrying the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 It's complete nonsense. Hyperbolic nonsense generated by a segment of the fanbase that is still throwing a tantrum over the Watkins trade. Williams is such a "talent" that 31 other teams are debating if he is worth a slot on their practice squad right now. We're going to pretend that when Shady goes down this guy's 3.5 YPC would save the season? The Detroit 3rd-string defense isn't on the schedule. This thread should be stickied for posterity, it might be the pinnacle of irrational behavior on TSW. Hyperbolic nonsense? We let go of: Gilmore Watkins Woods Ragland Darby J. Williams Argue the talent level if you want but we replaced them with very little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Better value while on the PS? I'm guessing that at $500,000 they will eventually bring him off the PS. I think he's a serviceable RB that if given the opportunity could do about what you typically see out of your every day back up RB. If he had made our team and had been the primary backup I'd been perfectly ok with it, but the fact that he didn't make it and some of our fans went apoplectic over his release and that no team decided to pick him up off of waivers just goes to show you that typically fans views of back up players aren't normally inline with actual NFL evaluators. How do you suppose those same NFL evaluators would react if Mike Tolbert was walking the mean streets of free agency? It makes zero sense to keep him over a younger guy with potential. This all but ensures the Bills will be wasting draft picks on a RB because they don't even have a younger pair of legs on the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 (edited) How do you suppose those same NFL evaluators would react if Mike Tolbert was walking the mean streets of free agency? It makes zero sense to keep him over a younger guy with potential. This all but ensures the Bills will be wasting draft picks on a RB because they don't even have a younger pair of legs on the roster. I answered this with my previous post. The problem is that you are viewing this through the wrong lens, at least from the perspective of this regime. Also, I don't share your view that he was someone with any real differentiating "potential". I see him as a JAG. Which isn't a bad thing, every team needs quite a few of them, but that's how I saw him. Edited September 5, 2017 by Magox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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