Plano Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 They'll be eliminated, they shouldn't have even made the tournament Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 14 minutes ago, Plano said: They'll be eliminated, they shouldn't have even made the tournament Who would you have given their bid to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 2 hours ago, The Poojer said: Frank Howard is battling strep throat, hopefully he can get his strength and energy back by tomorrow. http://www.syracuse.com/orangebasketball/index.ssf/2018/03/syracuse_basketball_point_guard_frank_howard_dealing_with_strep_throat.html Sometimes you play your best games under the weather. You get so focused on the game that you just get in the zone and establish a great rythem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 2 hours ago, LBSeeBallLBGetBall said: Who would you have given their bid to? USC, Oklahoma State (beat Kansas twice), and maybe St. Mary’s. Some say Notre Dame, and they did beat Syracuse head to head, but not near the quality wins of SU. Hey, some times you catch a break, some times you don’t. This year we got a lucky bounce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: USC, Oklahoma State (beat Kansas twice), and maybe St. Mary’s. Some say Notre Dame, and they did beat Syracuse head to head, but not near the quality wins of SU. Hey, some times you catch a break, some times you don’t. This year we got a lucky bounce. USC and St Marys I agree with. Cases can be made for and against all bubble teams. Notre Dame I believe was rightfully left out. Stinks for ND because they would have been in easy without the injuries but those are the breaks. We had better RPI and better quadrant wins. As far as Ok State goes, f Doug Gottlieb. Edited March 13, 2018 by LBSeeBallLBGetBall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greybeard Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 I saw an interview with coach K sometime in the last two days, he mentioned that Duke can play zone and has in very limited time. He gave credit to Boeheim and Hopkins for showing the Olympic teams how to play zone, which helped him understand it. I found that kind of interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, Greybeard said: I saw an interview with coach K sometime in the last two days, he mentioned that Duke can play zone and has in very limited time. He gave credit to Boeheim and Hopkins for showing the Olympic teams how to play zone, which helped him understand it. I found that kind of interesting. Duke played a TON of 2-3 zone this year with Grayson Allen at the top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greybeard Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 50 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Duke played a TON of 2-3 zone this year with Grayson Allen at the top He down played how often they played the zone. Seems to be getting more popular. Watching Bonny play a zone now, although it is a 1-3-1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Just now, Greybeard said: He down played how often they played the zone. Seems to be getting more popular. Watching Bonny play a zone now, although it is a 1-3-1. Yep Coach K picked it up from Boeheim and has been steadily using it more every season... this season the most frequent I saw an interview where he said that the team plays better when they hear Grayson's voice and him manning the top of the zone gets him talking on the court Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 5 hours ago, Greybeard said: He down played how often they played the zone. Seems to be getting more popular. Watching Bonny play a zone now, although it is a 1-3-1. I don't understand how a zone got UCLA to start missing threes. It took away their perimeter game somehow..........Back in the stone ages when I played, I loved playing against zones because I had a very good outside shot - and not much else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Howard with Strep throat... Hopefully he has the game of his life inside him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 What a bricklayers convention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Ugly, ugly,ugly win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Oshae can you see! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 I will take that win!! As usual, painful to watch on offense. Just a bunch of dribbling and bad passing. But a win is a win. Now onto the zone killer, Jamie Dixon! Ugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, JR in Pittsburgh said: I will take that win!! As usual, painful to watch on offense. Just a bunch of dribbling and bad passing. But a win is a win. Now onto the zone killer, Jamie Dixon! Ugh. Yea that's not a good matchup imo Dixon knows how to shred the zone... at least he had it down at Pitt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowgirlsFan Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Nice win! Yet now my nightmare,a Bills Nation Syracuse vs my hometown Fort Worth TCU Frogs.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Tyus had such a beautiful crossover pull-up 3 to go up by 3 with like a 1:50 left even when he has an off game he always shows up in the last few minutes of a close game he has hit a good amount of big shots late in games this year 1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said: What a bricklayers convention. Thats what good defense does. Stifles an opponent hardly any teams blew the roof off Cuse. They had a top 20 defense Syracuse has only had 3 scorers all season. It's always a grind this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 9 hours ago, The Poojer said: Ugly, ugly,ugly win Theyre gonna lose by 20 on Friday if they play like that. Howard was awful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Counting down to tipoff... This is definitely the most nervous I've been all year but 5 shots of crown will fix that Go Orange Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 39 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Counting down to tipoff... This is definitely the most nervous I've been all year but 5 shots of crown will fix that Go Orange Syracuse needs to play ALOT better than they did the other night if they want any chance to win this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 8 minutes ago, Steptide said: Syracuse needs to play ALOT better than they did the other night if they want any chance to win this game. Definitely thankfully they try and bring their defense every night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Cuuuuussssssssse!! also Barkley seems to hate cuse and the zone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Just now, Bray Wyatt said: Cuuuuussssssssse!! also Barkley seems to hate cuse and the zone I noticed that lol hes dumber than a bunch of rocks. Said Carmelo is the only scorer Cuse ever had lol gritty win for the Orange like all season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 20 minutes ago, Bray Wyatt said: Cuuuuussssssssse!! also Barkley seems to hate cuse and the zone He’s been a zone hater for years— since he started doing NCAA broadcasts. Makes the same point every year: it’s so easy to beat the zone. Get it the middle and make open shots. here’s an article from 2014 re Barkley’s comments, and refers to comments he made in 2013. It gets tiring. https://www.google.com/amp/www.syracuse.com/articles/12497652/cbs_analyst_charles_barkley_thinks_syracuse_basketball_needs_to_play_more_man-to.amp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, JR in Pittsburgh said: He’s been a zone hater for years— since he started doing NCAA broadcasts. Makes the same point every year: it’s so easy to beat the zone. Get it the middle and make open shots. here’s an article from 2014 re Barkley’s comments, and refers to comments he made in 2013. It gets tiring. https://www.google.com/amp/www.syracuse.com/articles/12497652/cbs_analyst_charles_barkley_thinks_syracuse_basketball_needs_to_play_more_man-to.amp It was more than just that JR he said that Syracuse has always struggled to score under Boeheim except when he had Melo lol so 40 years of bad offense lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, JR in Pittsburgh said: He’s been a zone hater for years— since he started doing NCAA broadcasts. Makes the same point every year: it’s so easy to beat the zone. Get it the middle and make open shots. here’s an article from 2014 re Barkley’s comments, and refers to comments he made in 2013. It gets tiring. https://www.google.com/amp/www.syracuse.com/articles/12497652/cbs_analyst_charles_barkley_thinks_syracuse_basketball_needs_to_play_more_man-to.amp He's still awesome to listen to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Barkley tried to say we suck on offense bc we practice against zone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 My boy Dolezaj gets better every game... he is gonna be a heck of a player for 4 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greybeard Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 8 hours ago, Bray Wyatt said: Barkley tried to say we suck on offense bc we practice against zone I thought that was an interesting take on the subject. I didn't get that he said they suck because of it, I understood they are not as developed as they could be against the man on man defense. When you watch the SU offense, I think his argument has merit. On the Carmelo was the only scorer, it's an exaggeration but if you look at what SU players have done in the NBA, he's correct in that no one stands out like Carmelo. I think he is ignoring the talent SU gets to work with. It certainly isn't like Duke or Kentucky talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 I am having some major nightmares about this game on Sunday. I distinctly remember getting crushed in the sweet 16 by Michigan State in Detroit in 2000. I think that was the year where Mo Pete and Mateen Cleaves took them to the title. They shot like over 70% from the field against our zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowgirlsFan Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 11 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: My boy Dolezaj gets better every game... he is gonna be a heck of a player for 4 years I'd love him as a Dallas Maverick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, Greybeard said: I thought that was an interesting take on the subject. I didn't get that he said they suck because of it, I understood they are not as developed as they could be against the man on man defense. When you watch the SU offense, I think his argument has merit. On the Carmelo was the only scorer, it's an exaggeration but if you look at what SU players have done in the NBA, he's correct in that no one stands out like Carmelo. I think he is ignoring the talent SU gets to work with. It certainly isn't like Duke or Kentucky talent. There are tons and tons of great college programs that don't even put talent to the NBA... who is the last Virginia Cavalier to be good in the NBA? ( brogden) Or Villanova? Once they get to the pros it's all up to the kid... but Boeheim has developed sooo many first round talents Dion Waiters couldn't score in college? What about Wes Johnson? Lawrence Moten, Hakeem Warrick, Jonny Flynn, Tyler Lydon, Malachi Richardson, Derrrick Coleman, pearl Washington ... they have had first round picks for 6 straight years, and they are all scorers ... they aren't getting drafted cus their defense Heck Tyus Battle is going to a first round pick eventually and he is a pure slasher / scorer Edited March 17, 2018 by Buffalo716 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 9 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: There are tons and tons of great college programs that don't even put talent to the NBA... who is the last Virginia Cavalier to be good in the NBA? Or Villanova? Malcolm Brogdon, last year's NBA rookie of the year. That's pretty good, I'd say. In addition, he has a master's from UVA and is deeply involved with Chris Long, also a UVA kid who donated his entire salary last year, in clean water for Africa projects. It's a damn good program that attracts damn good kids, and some are pretty good athletes. MLB is full of them, Ryan Zimmerman included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, sherpa said: Malcolm Brogdon, last year's NBA rookie of the year. That's pretty good, I'd say. In addition, he has a master's from UVA and is deeply involved with Chris Long, also a UVA kid who donated his entire salary last year, in clean water for Africa projects. It's a damn good program that attracts damn good kids, and some are pretty good athletes. MLB is full of them, Ryan Zimmerman included. So 1 guy from Virginia.... I never said they aren't an elite program. They just aren't an NBA factory yet Cuse has first round picks yearly Syracuse has 6 straight first round picks... Barkley sounded very dumb that was my point Wasnt trying to knock Virginia who plays great ball Edited March 17, 2018 by Buffalo716 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Point is, it isn't a one and done program. It attracts certain kids who are really good athletes but have more to give. Not a bad combination, if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 minute ago, sherpa said: Point is, it isn't a one and done program. It attracts certain kids who are really good athletes but have more to give. Not a bad combination, if you ask me. Of course. But Boeheim doesn't like 1 and done kids either really he wishes he could have more McNamaras and CJ Fairs. 1 and dones suck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 I think Ralph Sampson was OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 (edited) 18 minutes ago, sherpa said: I think Ralph Sampson was OK. Injuries killed him like Derrick Coleman unfortunately virginia is a great program who does it the right way, no knock at all... always shares the ball and great defenses again it was just Barkley that ticked me because he really is clueless now... Wes Johnson, Dion Waiters , Malachai Richardson , Tyler Lydon, and Tyus Battle are all recent scorers who came through Cuse 1 hour ago, CowgirlsFan said: I'd love him as a Dallas Maverick. I really think he will develop into atleast a 2nd round pick 6'9... Highest BBall IQ on the court, can put it on the deck, pass, rebound, defend AND he is adding a silky midrange jumper to his repertoire Edited March 17, 2018 by Buffalo716 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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