Miyagi-Do Karate Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Tough loss, but they showed a lot of talent and grit to make that a game down to the wire. A really tight sweet 16 loss to a 2 seed is an extremely successful season. They overachieved with what they had out there, by a ton. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 2 hours ago, JR in Pittsburgh said: Tough loss, but they showed a lot of talent and grit to make that a game down to the wire. A really tight sweet 16 loss to a 2 seed is an extremely successful season. They overachieved with what they had out there, by a ton. Im kinda bitter lol but I realized the flaws of the team and I'm very proud they got that far... next year can be special If Battle returns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 I hate seeing Duke win regardless of who they're playing. Cuse played really good last night. They had some moments where they returned to regular season form, but they stuck it out all the way to the end. Hopefully they have the full roster next year along with the new recruits. Howard needs to step up his game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 I am banking on Battle going pro. I have no idea why he has flown under the radar, but he looks like the best pro prospect we have had since Melo. Built for the NBA. I bet his stock goes through the roof after the NBA workouts. Even without him, we should be really good. I actually bet that Brissett will improve so much that he will be gone after next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 7 minutes ago, JR in Pittsburgh said: I am banking on Battle going pro. I have no idea why he has flown under the radar, but he looks like the best pro prospect we have had since Melo. Built for the NBA. I bet his stock goes through the roof after the NBA workouts. Even without him, we should be really good. I actually bet that Brissett will improve so much that he will be gone after next year. Battle is definitely built for the NBA but he still needs to cleanup sloppy turnovers and he can be lax at times. Boeheim says don't go unless your a lottery pick... he hated when Lydon let early... Battle can be a lottery pick next year but not this year Honestly Dion Waiters was a freak and was even more built than Tyus... He came off the bench for 2 years only because Brandon Triche who I did like was getting token starts... Battle can go in the lottery like Waiters in 1 more year, it be smart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said: Battle is definitely built for the NBA but he still needs to cleanup sloppy turnovers and he can be lax at times. Boeheim says don't go unless your a lottery pick... he hated when Lydon let early... Battle can be a lottery pick next year but not this year Honestly Dion Waiters was a freak and was even more built than Tyus... He came off the bench for 2 years only because Brandon Triche who I did like was getting token starts... Battle can go in the lottery like Waiters in 1 more year, it be smart Great compairson to waiters. They are pretty much the same player. I hope you are right! By by the way, I totally forgot about Lydon. Just looked him up and he is averaging 12 PPG in the G League. Played exactly 2 minutes with the nuggets. No comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, JR in Pittsburgh said: Great compairson to waiters. They are pretty much the same player. I hope you are right! By by the way, I totally forgot about Lydon. Just looked him up and he is averaging 12 PPG in the G League. Played exactly 2 minutes with the nuggets. No comment. And that's exactly what Boeheim told him would happen. He said Tyler come back and get picked top 12, you will make an NBA roster... you will get sent to the G league if your picked at 27... amd Lydon said he will make the team, whoever drafts him lol coulda used him this year as for Battle, and Waiters... I think Waiters has a little more spring in his hop (why he went 4th) but Tyus is every bit his offensive equal... Tyus is so good at creating his own shot, and he has a legitimate hot spot at the top right corner of the 3 arc... I don't think we will have Brissett for too long either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 One of my favorite of the last decade CJ Fair has signed a deal with the Chicago Bulls best of luck CJ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 On 3/24/2018 at 1:54 PM, JR in Pittsburgh said: I am banking on Battle going pro. I have no idea why he has flown under the radar, but he looks like the best pro prospect we have had since Melo. Built for the NBA. I bet his stock goes through the roof after the NBA workouts. Even without him, we should be really good. I actually bet that Brissett will improve so much that he will be gone after next year. I think he could go pro, and would be picked late in the 1st round, but I don’t think he will leave. He’s smart and comes from a good family. Maybe not as eager as some to leave early for that payday. I think he stays another year to work on that perimeter shot. He doesn’t have the handle to play PG in the NBA, and his shot is not yet there to make a team as a SG, IMO. He would likely end up in the D-League for a while anyway. I think he stays one more year, but I have nothing to back my opinion, and have been wrong before plenty of times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 29 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: I think he could go pro, and would be picked late in the 1st round, but I don’t think he will leave. He’s smart and comes from a good family. Maybe not as eager as some to leave early for that payday. I think he stays another year to work on that perimeter shot. He doesn’t have the handle to play PG in the NBA, and his shot is not yet there to make a team as a SG, IMO. He would likely end up in the D-League for a while anyway. I think he stays one more year, but I have nothing to back my opinion, and have been wrong before plenty of times. I'm with you...he isn't desperate for $$, and he can improve his handles and perimeter shot get drafted top 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Moyer is transferring out http://dailyorange.com/2018/03/syracuse-freshman-forward-matthew-moyer-transfer/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 3 minutes ago, The Poojer said: Moyer is transferring out http://dailyorange.com/2018/03/syracuse-freshman-forward-matthew-moyer-transfer/ Damn. Wish him well... he seemed like a good teammate... a lot of forward depth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 4 hours ago, The Poojer said: Moyer is transferring out http://dailyorange.com/2018/03/syracuse-freshman-forward-matthew-moyer-transfer/ He knew with Bazley coming in next year that he was going to be the 2nd SF off the bench. Great kid, but never panned out as the scorer he was reputed to be. He’ll find a home somewhere. Good luck, Matthew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 Honestly, kind of lame of Moyer. Stick it out, improve, and go earn those minutes. He basically conceded that Dolezaj has beat him out. He’s redshirted and now he is sitting another year out? Better off staying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 35 minutes ago, JR in Pittsburgh said: Honestly, kind of lame of Moyer. Stick it out, improve, and go earn those minutes. He basically conceded that Dolezaj has beat him out. He’s redshirted and now he is sitting another year out? Better off staying. One of my major criticisms of Boeheim is that he too sparingly plays the bench. You can see why players get frustrated when they don't get much playing time. If he would expand his rotation his starters would be fresher and the subs would not only get better but also feel like they are part of the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 7 minutes ago, JohnC said: One of my major criticisms of Boeheim is that he too sparingly plays the bench. You can see why players get frustrated when they don't get much playing time. If he would expand his rotation his starters would be fresher and the subs would not only get better but also feel like they are part of the team. Yeah....but Moyer proved early he could not shoot. He played decent defense, was a good teammate, and could finish around the rim. I will always have respect for him. If you play SF in the ACC, you damned well better have a jumper. Boeheim could not afford to have Moyer on the court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 1 minute ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Yeah....but Moyer proved early he could not shoot. He played decent defense, was a good teammate, and could finish around the rim. I will always have respect for him. If you play SF in the ACC, you damned well better have a jumper. Boeheim could not afford to have Moyer on the court. More and more you see players transferring from one program to another because of a lack of playing time. The lack of playing time has to frustrate a scholarship athlete. Even if Moyer wasn't a good shooter there still should be a role for him on the court. Very often a player will go to a big time program in which he simply isn't good enough especially in a program that yearly brings in top shelf talent. If a player such as Moyer went to Canisius or Niagra he would be getting a lot of playing time and more satisfaction from his college basketball experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, JohnC said: More and more you see players transferring from one program to another because of a lack of playing time. The lack of playing time has to frustrate a scholarship athlete. Even if Moyer wasn't a good shooter there still should be a role for him on the court. Very often a player will go to a big time program in which he simply isn't good enough especially in a program that yearly brings in top shelf talent. If a player such as Moyer went to Canisius or Niagra he would be getting a lot of playing time and more satisfaction from his college basketball experience. Well that's the thing... he didn't want to go to a Niagara or Canisius he was a consensus 4* recruit. He wants to play high major ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 How do you get recruited to a D-1 school and can’t hit an open 17-footer? Guys like Moyer should be hitting that shot at a 60% clip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 (edited) 23 minutes ago, JR in Pittsburgh said: How do you get recruited to a D-1 school and can’t hit an open 17-footer? Guys like Moyer should be hitting that shot at a 60% clip. D1 is a completely different ball game and players lose their confidence which is everything he could make a 3 in HS and jump shoot ok... he lost his confidence look at Howard his first 2 years Edited March 27, 2018 by Buffalo716 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, JR in Pittsburgh said: Yeah, you’re right, no doubt. Just seems odd to me. I mean, all we were asking him to do was make a wide open outside shot, since he was left wide open by the D. Wide open, man!! Yea it stinks. He could've been a 4 year player and pretty good by his SR year... we we will have a good amount of forwards and he was getting buried with Dolezajs emergence and Brissett... not too mention Bazley is coming and the transfer Hughes can be a wing 2-3 injuries back to back years hurt his development and confidence... though when healthy he could jump through the roof he really seemed to bleed orange since HS and his JR year commitment Edited March 27, 2018 by Buffalo716 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 9 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: Well that's the thing... he didn't want to go to a Niagara or Canisius he was a consensus 4* recruit. He wants to play high major ball What's happening more and more is that some of these highly touted recruits get anchored to the bench and end up leaving. He may be a legitimate four star recruit but too many recruits are over-rated and end up going to programs where they go by the wayside. I'm not as familiar with Moyer as you are but a player who can't shoot (unless you are a big man) is not going to prosper in a big time program. My point in my early post is that a better assessment of a player's talents relative to the program he goes to in the end mostly benefits the player. There are plenty of players in big time programs whose primary experience in college ball are being cheerleaders on the bench instead of being player at programs where they would have been actual participants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 2 hours ago, JohnC said: What's happening more and more is that some of these highly touted recruits get anchored to the bench and end up leaving. He may be a legitimate four star recruit but too many recruits are over-rated and end up going to programs where they go by the wayside. I'm not as familiar with Moyer as you are but a player who can't shoot (unless you are a big man) is not going to prosper in a big time program. My point in my early post is that a better assessment of a player's talents relative to the program he goes to in the end mostly benefits the player. There are plenty of players in big time programs whose primary experience in college ball are being cheerleaders on the bench instead of being player at programs where they would have been actual participants. Definitely and I agree with you... there is lots of good basketball talent and a lot of 4* recruits overestimate their talent and end up riding the bench at a really good program and transfer out Moyer got hit with really bad injury luck... a season ending injury as a freshman which caused a redshirt and his bad ankle sprain this year it hindered his confidence and his progression... he went from a top 75 player in HS who could shoot ok, and jump through the roof , to a kid who lost all confidence and can't make a 15 foot jumper i wish him all the best, but as you said, he didn't have the goods to be a Syracuse starting forward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Bayer is transferring out as a 5th year graduate transfer ... not that it matters much but Good luck to him and hope he makes an impact next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 On 3/24/2018 at 2:05 PM, Buffalo716 said: Battle is definitely built for the NBA but he still needs to cleanup sloppy turnovers and he can be lax at times. Boeheim says don't go unless your a lottery pick... he hated when Lydon let early... Battle can be a lottery pick next year but not this year Honestly Dion Waiters was a freak and was even more built than Tyus... He came off the bench for 2 years only because Brandon Triche who I did like was getting token starts... Battle can go in the lottery like Waiters in 1 more year, it be smart Battle is more like Richardson in my opinion. I think Waiters was a step up above them, but he also had better players around him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 1 minute ago, Ol Dirty B said: Battle is more like Richardson in my opinion. I think Waiters was a step up above them, but he also had better players around him. For sure he had better players around him and was a better player... that's why he was the 4th pick Battle and Richardson are similar though Battle is a much better FT show 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 44 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Bayer is transferring out as a 5th year graduate transfer ... not that it matters much but Good luck to him and hope he makes an impact next year Nooooo!!!!!!!! in all seriousness, i am sure he will remember for the rest of his life that PT he got in the tourney. He was key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 28 minutes ago, JR in Pittsburgh said: Nooooo!!!!!!!! in all seriousness, i am sure he will remember for the rest of his life that PT he got in the tourney. He was key. Definitely... I'm just a little confused... I thought he spent 1 year at Grannell, transferred to Cuse, Redshirted, then was on the squad at Cuse this year... that's only 3 years iirc how is he a graduate transfer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Anybody watch the McDonald's All American Game? Bazley flashed a nice 3 ball for a kid 6'9 with nice passing and rebounding skills... looks every bit as advertised ? (Was also very unselfish in a very selfish game) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said: Anybody watch the McDonald's All American Game? Bazley flashed a nice 3 ball for a kid 6'9 with nice passing and rebounding skills... looks every bit as advertised ? (Was also very unselfish in a very selfish game) I didn’t get a chance to watch it. That’s really encouraging!! Let’s hope Tyus comes back and we can be a top-5 team! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 16 minutes ago, JR in Pittsburgh said: I didn’t get a chance to watch it. That’s really encouraging!! Let’s hope Tyus comes back and we can be a top-5 team! If Tyus comes back I see a legitimate top 5-7 team Bazley was very unselfish and was trying to play real basketball somewhat instead of the no defense fast break show it was... it was usually rebound and out with a dunk/layup or a pull-up / kick out 3 Bazley tied for the west lead with 7 bounds in 17 minutes only and always passed it up he seems like a kid who is getting more and more confidence everyday and It shows in his shot and all the announcers talked about how he is the rare kid WHO GETS BETTER EVERYTIME HE STEPS ON THE COURT he also tried defending Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 17 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: Anybody watch the McDonald's All American Game? Bazley flashed a nice 3 ball for a kid 6'9 with nice passing and rebounding skills... looks every bit as advertised ? (Was also very unselfish in a very selfish game) Darius Bazley de-commits from Syracuse. Will jump directly to NBA G League. ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 1 minute ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Darius Bazley de-commits from Syracuse. Will jump directly to NBA G League. ?? What a joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 1 minute ago, The Poojer said: What a joke Holy crap - this must have floored you so much that you replied underneath instead of on top of the quote box! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 5 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Darius Bazley de-commits from Syracuse. Will jump directly to NBA G League. ?? Im ******* devastated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, JR in Pittsburgh said: How is this Legal? Doesn’t this violate the NBA “1 and done” rule? I can’t believe the G-league would be exempt from that rule. I bet you the NBA players union challenges this. Requirement for NBA is age 19 and one year out of HS. Minimum age for G League is 18. This is unprecedented. He’s going to make somewhere between 19,500-26,000 this season instead of playing major college basketball. What a joke. Edited March 29, 2018 by Johnny Hammersticks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 3 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Requirement for NBA is age 19 and one year out of HS. Minimum age for G League is 18. This is unprecedented. He’s going to make somewhere between 19,500-26,000 this season instead of playing major college basketball. What a joke. I am a little surprised that the G league doesn’t have a 1 and done requirement. And I bet it will have one soon if this becomes popular. So what happens after Bazley turns 19? Does he go into the NBA draft? Or is he a free agent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 5 minutes ago, JR in Pittsburgh said: I am a little surprised that the G league doesn’t have a 1 and done requirement. And I bet it will have one soon if this becomes popular. So what happens after Bazley turns 19? Does he go into the NBA draft? Or is he a free agent? It is my understanding that he will be eligible for the NBA draft upon completion of the G League season and after turning 19. It was also just brought to my attention that those agent “loans” are now legal, and he likely is being paid handsomely by someone for making this move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 (edited) This is like a bad dream! WTF!!!! Somebody got in his ear and just screwed CUSE. Bazley coulda done this months ago and let Boeheim recruit someone else... I lost some respect for him and hope his career goes nowhere honestly No class move that screwed Boeheims recruiting class Edited March 29, 2018 by Buffalo716 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Just got the update on my phone, NOOOOOOOOOO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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