Ah, yes...Chicago

[mead107]

Do away with the police save a ton of money. Just let the gangs rule.

[RaoulDuke79]

Well at least they have their priorities in line.

 

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/protesters-want-chicagos-balbo-monument-a-gift-from-mussolini-removed/ar-AAqCepS

[B-Man]

Unbelievable, a war zone in one of our largest cities.

 

 

5 killed, 13 wounded in Chicago shootings, including 4 dead in rifle attack
Chicago Tribune Original Article

[Wacka]

Where is Al Capone when you need him?

[Koko78]

Where is Al Capone when you need him?

 

Still not paying his 'fair share' in taxes...

[ExiledInIllinois]

Where is Al Capone when you need him?

Al Capone is why we had gun regulation in the first place.

 

What I don't understand from the Right is... So, make guns more accessible and legal in Chicago and that will ease the violence. You gotta be kidding? Want a full blown urban war? What we are seeing now are the skirmishes. It would move to the true wild west if they open everything up like before Capone.

 

About Capone and gangsters. That's the reason why we have gun laws on the books.

 

I simply do not now what the conservatives are trying to prove here. They are barking up the wrong tree. The problem lies with the multiple jurisdictions and vast discrepancies in the laws and selfishness of the individual over the group.

 

We all need to get on same page and going back to the wild west is not the answer. Even then one checked their gun @ the door to the saloon. The whole of society is now that saloon. Stop being selfish and check that weapon @ the door.

Edited September 17, 2017 by ExiledInIllinois

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Unbelievable, a war zone in one of our largest cities.

 

 

5 killed, 13 wounded in Chicago shootings, including 4 dead in rifle attack

Chicago Tribune Original Article

 

 

Waiting for the outcry from #BLM

Where is Al Capone when you need him?

 

Last I heard he was clearing out space in his vault to hide all the evidence of Russian election hacking

[Koko78]

 

 

Last I heard he was clearing out space in his vault to hide all the evidence of Russian election hacking

 

Don't tell Geraldo!

[ExiledInIllinois]

Guess what? This is why we can't have nice schit (guns are fun) in this country! Thanks effing Chicago, gonna mess it all up for the God & guns crybabies just a stone's throw away.

 

Let Chicagoans have their guns legally, turn the city into a total war-zone... And the same thing will happen as did during prohibition... Cops will start getting out gunned and everybody will pay the price with stricter regulations. And stricter regulation this time means nobody gets them, even across multiple jurisdictions. There is way too many state and local jurisdictions in play here across the Chicagoland area. Ground zero for the perfect mixing of redneck vs. urbanite culture. The area is a purple clusterphuck.

 

Be careful what you wish for conservatives. I am all for seeing Chicago a war-zone just as you are. Don't over correct or push too hard, you will spoil it for everybody. When 3 million people start getting shot up, change will come and people in the country won't like it. Again, same thing happened during prohibition. Citizens were getting shot up as they dined along the Mag Mile. The country took notice and enacted change, regulation. Yeah, bring Capone back.

 

It's always the few that spoil it for the many. Going wild west style is a sure way to spoil what you already have. Keep the war isolated and be happy with what you have.

 

You think it's bad now? You gotta Be kidding? It will be bad when the gubermint jack-boots come knocking on your door in the name of keeping peace and collecting your weapons. Then the war really starts. Schit gets ugly.

 

Let the genie out of the bottle some more. It's an hell of an end game.

Edited September 18, 2017 by ExiledInIllinois

[Nanker]

What you don't get is that most folks just want to live peaceful lives and have a safe environment for their families and friends.

You sound like the CIS middle aged white guys are going to start armed mobs and go into the hood and wipe out the bad guys.

Most of the shootings are black on black gang warfare. What are the police doing about it? What is their mayor doing about it? Their council-members?

Your side advocates essentially disarming the peaceful folk and doing absolutely nothing to control the bad guys. That doesn't sound very fair now, does it?

[grinreaper]

Guess what? This is why we can't have nice schit (guns are fun) in this country! Thanks effing Chicago, gonna mess it all up for the God & guns crybabies just a stone's throw away.

 

Let Chicagoans have their guns legally, turn the city into a total war-zone... And the same thing will happen as did during prohibition... Cops will start getting out gunned and everybody will pay the price with stricter regulations. And stricter regulation this time means nobody gets them, even across multiple jurisdictions. There is way too many state and local jurisdictions in play here across the Chicagoland area. Ground zero for the perfect mixing of redneck vs. urbanite culture. The area is a purple clusterphuck.

 

Be careful what you wish for conservatives. I am all for seeing Chicago a war-zone just as you are. Don't over correct or push too hard, you will spoil it for everybody. When 3 million people start getting shot up, change will come and people in the country won't like it. Again, same thing happened during prohibition. Citizens were getting shot up as they dined along the Mag Mile. The country took notice and enacted change, regulation. Yeah, bring Capone back.

 

It's always the few that spoil it for the many. Going wild west style is a sure way to spoil what you already have. Keep the war isolated and be happy with what you have.

 

You think it's bad now? You gotta Be kidding? It will be bad when the gubermint jack-boots come knocking on your door in the name of keeping peace and collecting your weapons. Then the war really starts. Schit gets ugly.

 

Let the genie out of the bottle some more. It's an hell of an end game.

https://youtu.be/uq-v1TTUyhM

[Tiberius]

But God forbid anyone suggest we need to get illegal immigration under control because it's a problem.

A problem for who? The haters that just hate those people? Immigrants have low crime rates...and they are not addicted to opioids and will work.

[ExiledInIllinois]

What you don't get is that most folks just want to live peaceful lives and have a safe environment for their families and friends.

You sound like the CIS middle aged white guys are going to start armed mobs and go into the hood and wipe out the bad guys.

Most of the shootings are black on black gang warfare. What are the police doing about it? What is their mayor doing about it? Their council-members?

Your side advocates essentially disarming the peaceful folk and doing absolutely nothing to control the bad guys. That doesn't sound very fair now, does it?

And the wild west is a better concept, arming everybody?

 

People aren't getting shot on Michigan Ave. They will be if you arm everybody.

 

The reason why tough gun regs took hold in the 1920s & 1930s. Because gang violence was spilling over onto Michigan Ave.

 

Mark my words, the insecure gun nuts will push, people will be people, and everything will be spoiled. Better love your guns now while you got them.

Yeah, you are sure an expert on being dumb. I will cede to the pros in the business!

[DC Tom]

And the wild west is a better concept, arming everybody?

 

 

Alright, whoever's suggesting this, show yourselves!

[ExiledInIllinois]

 

Alright, whoever's suggesting this, show yourselves!

There is a guy up thread clamoring for the return of Big Al.

 

But that's what will happen if they lax up the regs. It happened before during prohibition when there were no regs. The violence will spill into the whole town. It is already happening on the expressways.

 

Sorry. The honest law abiding people in other, closer jurisdictions will have to take some of the hit. The worse answer is to arm them, the law abiders in Chicago. It won't deter the violence, just escalate it. The problem is we aren't all on same page as we were from the 1930s to the early 2000s. Why is the ISOLATED violence getting worse now? Because it is getting more and more legal to be armed through other jurisdictions. There is no "buffer zone" in these neck of the woods. Lee Harvey can't mail order a rifle from Illinois to Texas, but he have a clean friend drive to Indiana or Texas. Funny, it's the other way around now, 54 years later.

[Joe Miner]

There is a guy up thread clamoring for the return of Big Al.

 

But that's what will happen if they lax up the regs. It happened before during prohibition when there were no regs. The violence will spill into the whole town. It is already happening on the expressways.

 

Sorry. The honest law abiding people in other, closer jurisdictions will have to take some of the hit. The worse answer is to arm them, the law abiders in Chicago. It won't deter the violence, just escalate it. The problem is we aren't all on same page as we were from the 1930s to the early 2000s. Why is the ISOLATED violence getting worse now? Because it is getting more and more legal to be armed through other jurisdictions. There is no "buffer zone" in these neck of the woods. Lee Harvey can't mail order a rifle from Illinois to Texas, but he have a clean friend drive to Indiana or Texas. Funny, it's the other way around now, 54 years later.

You. Are. Stupid.

[Doc Brown]

A problem for who? The haters that just hate those people? Immigrants have low crime rates...and they are not addicted to opioids and will work.

I'm guessing you mean illegal immigrants. If you're a relative of somebody who was killed by an illegal immigrant you really don't care what the overall crime rate of illegal immigrants are compared to the general population. They're not supposed to be here.

[keepthefaith]

No. There is no "buffer zone" with say Indiana. Yet, the Hoosiers all come to work in Chicago. People pouring into work, then heading back to dodge a number of issues, especially taxes. The metropolitan area has almost 10 million people. You can only get so far out to commute in.

 

If they laxed up the laws to match the laws across the Indiana border, the place would be an absolute zoo, more so than the zoo it is now.

 

It really is about not everybody being on the same page.

 

It's why Capone set up here, on the very border I live on. This area would be a virtual playground for lawlessness. All the guns in the hands of citizens wouldn't deter anybody. People simply don't give a flying phuck.

 

States like Illinois and Indiana gotta get on board with regard to firearms, liquor, taxes and all the vices people love. They need to stop being parasitic with one another. The culture is very diverse and intermingled. Chicago is the city in the country and hence the issues and ease of obtaining anything you want. Want booze on Sunday, cross into Illinois. Want a job... Hit the city and suburbs. Want guns, cheap fuel, cigarettes, fireworks just cross into Indiana...

 

Really two dysfunctional states centered around a huge economic market.

 

Nothing will change. Everybody is getting what they want. Cheap to do business, huge amount of people, low cost of living, etc...

Oh my. That's a beauty.

 

 

For the real story about Chicago shootings, this site will keep you very up to date. Lot's of stats here. Scroll down a bit for some of the interesting stuff.

 

http://heyjackass.com/

Edited September 19, 2017 by keepthefaith

[grinreaper]

I'm guessing you mean illegal immigrants. If you're a relative of somebody who was killed by an illegal immigrant you really don't care what the overall crime rate of illegal immigrants are compared to the general population. They're not supposed to be here.

Illegal immigrants actually have a high crime rate.

[boyst]

Illegal immigrants actually have a high crime rate.

they do. In fact 100% of them have committed a crime