aristocrat Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 If this team is well coached and we get lucky with injuries we can be a playoff team. If this is a great coaching staff we will be good Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 The usual 6 wins of two decades, would be nice to get a few more. Don't worry about an early payment toward home playoff tickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Nothing to be torn about. We aren't a good team. Did you watch any of those preseason games and say wow we are going to beat Brady and the Pats? The smart thing to do is build for the future and maybe in 2-3 years we are ready Agree...we will always have a top 10 toughest schedule until B&B retire. I want the incessive coaching/ scheme changes to stop. Give McBeane at least 4 full years to build there strategy. Stick with the 4-3 forever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted August 19, 2017 Author Share Posted August 19, 2017 The question is whether or not I can commit to a full rebuild and care about this season as much. I don't believe tanking exists when you play for non-guaranteed contracts. But as a fan, do you ultimately hope for only 3-4 wins for the draft picks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty McFly Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 If this team is well coached and we get lucky with injuries we can be a playoff team. If this is a great coaching staff we will be good Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Right. Im jus over here hoping the offense is watchable this season. I would hate to work Sundays bc my #1 team isnt worth sacrificing a payday anymore. We were exciting the last 2 years. Our offense could score any minute with a huge play. This new scheme isnt built like that. Wen we kept the score close we usuaoly lost. Wen we ran the score up we usually won. This offense is designed to be methodical and keep the score close, hope it doesnt backfire on us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 What does Tom have to do with the upcoming season? Tom who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuSeYiN_NYC Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 All i do is read posts and sometimes add a post of my own. But i HAVE come to one conclusion with multiple factors and that is, some of you guys just need to relax. I don't know if it's my age, the fact that i stay in good shape, that i eat right, or, the fact that I'm a religious person. But what i DO know is that I'm calm. I'm enjoying the "preseason" for what it is people. A freakin exhibition game. Now if it's week 4 in the regular season and we have a record like 1-3, then I would understand these posts of disappointment and the likes of. Heck I'll be upset also. We all wait 7 months after the SuperBowl to watch a meaningful NFL game of the team we root for so we expect to see some good football. But these games don't count people. We used to have intellegent posters that would break down game film like how an NFL coach would and would make you see where the good and the bad is on the team. These days however its just, trade tgis person or that person, tank this and tank that and now OP is "torn" in the preseason. Come on man. Just relax and enjoy the last bit of summer we have left and save the frustration for the regular season (if tge team should do bad of course). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty McFly Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 The question is whether or not I can commit to a full rebuild and care about this season as much. I don't believe tanking exists when you play for non-guaranteed contracts. But as a fan, do you ultimately hope for only 3-4 wins for the draft picks? I am against tanking, i want a decent football team that can hang in games. Not sure mcbeane built this roster for short term success with getting rid of watkins and giving us 3 starting slot WRs and not upgrading the OLine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 I never want to see the team tank aka quit. Tanking is not quitting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 The question is whether or not I can commit to a full rebuild and care about this season as much. I don't believe tanking exists when you play for non-guaranteed contracts. But as a fan, do you ultimately hope for only 3-4 wins for the draft picks? We all volunteer our time to post on a Bills forum. Idk how much control you have in the "care as much" department. The way I see it, I am all in every season with the only difference being tempered expectations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 I hate all that 2-3 years talk. In two to three years will have to likely replace for age or contract reasons, Dareus, Hughes, Kyle, Shady, Cordy, Wood, Richie, Clay and still upgrade several other positions. Then again a real franchise quarterback might be able to offset some of that. This is why Buffalo needed the 6 picks in the first 3 rds. The best players on this team are on their second or third contracts. That nucleous of players have not accounted for any degree of sustained success. If Matthews can get on the feild soon I feel Buffalo is improved on all phases of the game compared to last year. You can argue that last years team was more talented but where wildly inconsistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Nothing to get torn about. We go balls out and try to win this thing. Saying we have a tough schedule and we can't compete so why even try is for sissies. Fuggedabout it. Enough with the losing. Guys need to learn how to win especially the close games. Losing on purpose or not giving 100% to win is for losers. Go BILLS !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leonbus23 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 In 1519, the Aztec empire was ruled by the Montezuma, a widely aggressive and angry king, who spent years attempting to broaden his empire by use of his people through war and personal sacrifice. Then, in late August, the Spanish Conquistador Cortes marched on the city with great military power. After diplomatic relations failed, the citizens eventually turned on Montezuma, many viewing Cortes as a savior, or God. For approximately two years the Aztec people were subject to religious persecution and war against the very man they originally viewed as the savior. In 1521, the city was ransacked and nearly destroyed. Rex was Montezuma. We are the Aztecs. McBean are the conquistadors. Although it looks good at face value, I am very hesitant to praise any move until they can prove some worth in the eyes of the fan base. Impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan60 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 In 1519, the Aztec empire was ruled by the Montezuma, a widely aggressive and angry king, who spent years attempting to broaden his empire by use of his people through war and personal sacrifice. Then, in late August, the Spanish Conquistador Cortes marched on the city with great military power. After diplomatic relations failed, the citizens eventually turned on Montezuma, many viewing Cortes as a savior, or God. For approximately two years the Aztec people were subject to religious persecution and war against the very man they originally viewed as the savior. In 1521, the city was ransacked and nearly destroyed. Rex was Montezuma. We are the Aztecs. McBean are the conquistadors. Although it looks good at face value, I am very hesitant to praise any move until they can prove some worth in the eyes of the fan base. What about cortes? Wish I was smarter so I understood metaphor (or is it a simile). Where does Pegs fit in? Did I see something about McBeath (or was it Yorick). You old timers is just too smart for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 (edited) Nothing to get torn about. We go balls out and try to win this thing. Saying we have a tough schedule and we can't compete so why even try is for sissies. Fuggedabout it. Enough with the losing. Guys need to learn how to win especially the close games. Losing on purpose or not giving 100% to win is for losers. Go BILLS !!! Peterman knows how to win...the game against Clemson and his mentality in the two minute drill is all you need to know...Taylor has a hard time moving the chains at the end of regulations...good QBs lead their teams to point in the final minutes. I kinda understand where the OP is coming from...it is hard for me to get behind Tyrod because I don't believe in him...now, if it was Peterman, I could get excited about the season because, while mostly an unknown, he appears to have abilities that give him a higher ceiling than Tyrod, and that alone, gives me hope...I have no hope with Tyrod. Edited August 20, 2017 by JaCrispy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Take two steps back now to take 3 steps forward later. I will respect this new staff more if that's the plan, it's a real plan. Draft this team a franchise worthy QB, enough of the other team backup garbage over and over again. The Chan/Rex plan of trying to win now with what this team has is a certain death that will end the same as the last few, fired within 3 years and a continuation of the longest loser streak in sports. Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 I don't follow. Why do we have to suck to draft a QB? Why do we need to trade young, talented players to draft a QB? Can't we win now AND STILL draft a QB? Sortve like the team we traded down with in the draft who DRAFTED A QB. Not everything needs to be done in extremes. But the losing has made Bills fans desperate... And a little stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Tanking is not quitting. No, but it means losing for a few more years...not easy to come back quickly from 2-14 or 4-12 seasons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Kevi Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 All i do is read posts and sometimes add a post of my own. But i HAVE come to one conclusion with multiple factors and that is, some of you guys just need to relax. I don't know if it's my age, the fact that i stay in good shape, that i eat right, or, the fact that I'm a religious person. But what i DO know is that I'm calm. I'm enjoying the "preseason" for what it is people. A freakin exhibition game. Now if it's week 4 in the regular season and we have a record like 1-3, then I would understand these posts of disappointment and the likes of. Heck I'll be upset also. We all wait 7 months after the SuperBowl to watch a meaningful NFL game of the team we root for so we expect to see some good football. But these games don't count people. We used to have intellegent posters that would break down game film like how an NFL coach would and would make you see where the good and the bad is on the team. These days however its just, trade tgis person or that person, tank this and tank that and now OP is "torn" in the preseason. Come on man. Just relax and enjoy the last bit of summer we have left and save the frustration for the regular season (if tge team should do bad of course). Really, I see tons condescending posts to this same exact point every year. Hell, I used to be the optimist and post things like this too. Telling people to be positive or to just expect them to be good because.... reasons. But experience has taught me something.... The Bills suck in preseason, and suck in the regular season too. I wouldn't say I'm frustrated or angry about it, but it is clear and obvious this will n9t be a good team. It's great to be positive and stuff, but history is a pretty good predictor of the past, and not this demi-religious type of blind "faith" that they will be better in the regular season. Nothing has indicated that. Now, they might be OK, but there is an awful lot more evidence to the contrary. Then again evidence must not matter much to a religious person (that's not a shot at you, just an observation). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 This isn't about the preseason to me. Unless they can get 9-10 wins, I think I'd hope for 4 wins instead of 5-8. I don't want to root for them to lose, but the high picks just mean more I haven't looked at 5-8 win seasons, but since 2002 69 teams have gone 4-12 or worse. of those teams: 13 went 4-12 or worse the next season (18.8%) 47 had a 0.500 record or worse the next season (68.1%) 22 had a winning record the next season (31.9%) 15 had a winning record and made the playoffs the next season (21.7%) 1 team made the playoff going 8-8 the next season The most likely result to us going 4-12 or worse is that the next year we will be back to going 7-9... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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