Deranged Rhino Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Just now, Kemp said: Another non-answer. What are you afraid of? Is it possible you are incapable of answering? I promise Rhino won't call you an Asshat. No one is scared of you. You offer nothing down here, so why would anyone be afraid of what a man who gleefully admits to being functionally illiterate thinks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 35 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: By pretending to be functionally illiterate and reveling in his laziness? Nah, that's not crushing anyone. That's making him a very easy target. I answered you. I went out of my way to try to honestly engage with you for years. That game doesn't work, because unlike you people here are capable of reading a thread honestly. Anyone else notice that he still hasn't listed a single source. What is he afraid of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, bdutton said: True. But you are completely ignoring the facts of what took place after the Republicans stopped using them. The opposition party candidate hired Fusion GPS and they created a completely false and unverified dossier on Trump. The opposition party, working with the Obama Administration, fed this document to the FBI as grounds to SPY ON THE OPPSITION PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE. They lied and omitted facts multiple times to the FISA judge as to the source and veracity of the claims in the dossier in order to continue their illegal spy operation even after he was elected president. He's proven incapable of independent thought and basic reading comprehension. It should not be a shock he doesn't get this very basic point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, Kemp said: That is just false. It's not his geo-political stance I question. I question his known, factual monetary ties to Russia, including his having to turn to Russian banks for financing help because American banks were tired of getting stiffed by him. It's his dealings in real estate with so many Russians and that in lieu of these things that his policies towards Russia and Putin differ from almost every other single person in government for many years. News of his financial involvements with Russia did not come from the "Deep State". They came from his own son. You have no understanding of international business, multi-national corporations, or corporate financing; the President didn't do anything untoward or even unusual in seeking favorable financing deals. I reject your premise. The baseline outcome is that you do, in fact, seek to criminalize foreign policy differences. Your stupidity is dangerous. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Just now, Kemp said: Anyone else notice that he still hasn't listed a single source. What is he afraid of? Wrong. I've answered your question multiple times. Anyone notice Kemp has nothing to offer? Just now, TakeYouToTasker said: You have no understanding of international business, multi-national corporations, or corporate financing; the President didn't do anything untoward or even unusual in seeking favorable financing deals. I reject your premise. The baseline outcome is that you do, in fact, seek to criminalize foreign policy differences. Your stupidity is dangerous. It's like trying to explain gravity to a chicken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 27 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: I did answer. Twice. The fact you're still asking for an answer to a question that's been answered is not a winning point to keep harping on. It just shows how much of an asshat you truly are. One source. I don't think you can do it. By now, even your supporters must be wondering why you can't name one reliable source. I realize that at this point that multiple sources would be too much to ask for, but one? Of course, you could continue to scream Asshat and post memes. You are melting down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Just now, Kemp said: One source. I don't think you can do it. By now, even your supporters must be wondering why you can't name one reliable source. I realize that at this point that multiple sources would be too much to ask for, but one? Of course, you could continue to scream Asshat and post memes. You are melting down. This isn't a meltdown. This is an asswhooping and it's fun. 1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 26 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: Everyone and no one at the same time. All major media outlets are guilty of lies of omission (and in many case outright fabrications) for the purpose of driving a narrative. These narratives are cobbled on top of selective, out of context truths, and bolstered by fabrications. They are not "reporting news", but rather are attempting to create it for the purpose of driving public sentiment. They are part of the entrenched power structure. No one in the major media does investigative journalism any more. There's no money or power in it. The money and power are in protecting the power structures and the power elite which hide behind them. Real investigative journalism is done by small independents and former reporters whom work on their own these days. Uh-oh. We are getting closer. "Real investigative journalism is done by small independents and former reporters whom work on their own these days". Finally, a hint. Name some. At least than we can examine these independents and former reporters. Thanks for at least bringing us a little closer to what I'm trying to find out. Please follow through. I appreciate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kemp Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 21 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: FTFY It's sad to watch someone crumble under such minimal pressure. Nah, it's not all that sad. He is good at pasting memes, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Kemp said: It's sad to watch someone crumble under such minimal pressure. Nah, it's not all that sad. He is good at pasting memes, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 7 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: This isn't a meltdown. This is an asswhooping and it's fun. I have to go out for a while. It's been fun exposing you. Will continue later. Sincerely, Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Just now, Kemp said: I have to go out for a while. It's been fun exposing you. Will continue later. Sincerely, Me You've only exposed your own asshatery, Kemp. It's sad to see a guy go down this road. But it sure is fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 @Kemp Derp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 34 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: Everyone and no one at the same time. All major media outlets are guilty of lies of omission (and in many case outright fabrications) for the purpose of driving a narrative. These narratives are cobbled on top of selective, out of context truths, and bolstered by fabrications. They are not "reporting news", but rather are attempting to create it for the purpose of driving public sentiment. They are part of the entrenched power structure. No one in the major media does investigative journalism any more. There's no money or power in it. The money and power are in protecting the power structures and the power elite which hide behind them. ... i'm sure your aware but for the intended recipient, he should also understand that all of the above is made infinitely easier by the fact that 6 corporations own roughly 90% of all media. he might want to ask himself why, when a new narrative is thrust upon the scene, that that narrative is everywhere, at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: You've only exposed your own asshatery, Kemp. It's sad to see a guy go down this road. But it sure is fun. You can never rationalize with a zealot, and it's taking you away from the important work you do so that I can walk the streets claiming your work product as my own. Let's get your priorities back on track. ? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 10 minutes ago, Kemp said: Uh-oh. We are getting closer. "Real investigative journalism is done by small independents and former reporters whom work on their own these days". Finally, a hint. Name some. At least than we can examine these independents and former reporters. Thanks for at least bringing us a little closer to what I'm trying to find out. Please follow through. I appreciate it. There have been dozens of them posted here across multiple threads, the two primary being the Deep State thread and the Trump Russia thread. I've taken you far enough, and am not interested in telling you what to think. I've told you how to think, and have directed you to do the work for yourself after being kind enough to point you in the right direction. You can either go on this adventure yourself, or not. I've done my job. If you refuse to do yours, it's a reflection on you, rather than me. As an aside, you're making yourself look stupid in this thread. I'd encourage you to stop doing so. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 29 minutes ago, Foxx said: a horse is thirsty, you lead the horse to water. he stands there looking at the water not quite comprehending what is there. he looks at you and wants you to pour the water down his throat because he is too stupid to drink it for himself because he is probably afraid that he won't comprehend the water he is drinking. pour it down mah throat, pour it down mah throat! he yells repeatedly. what he fails to understand is that it is up to him to drink it, you can't force the water down his throat and if the dumbass is too stupid to drink it then he should wither and die. You mean you can take a horse to water but you can't make him drink? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Sharyl Attkisson Sarah Carter Kimberley A. Strassel I wonder if anyone will pick up on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 27 minutes ago, Foxx said: i'm sure your aware but for the intended recipient, he should also understand that all of the above is made infinitely easier by the fact that 6 corporations own roughly 90% of all media. he might want to ask himself why, when a new narrative is thrust upon the scene, that that narrative is everywhere, at the same time. So its a corporate media, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 (edited) @Kemp Nothing Edited January 16, 2019 by Boyst62 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 9 minutes ago, Tiberius said: So its a corporate media, right? just ask the head troll in your cubicle farm who it is that gives you your narratives for the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, Foxx said: just ask the head troll in your cubicle farm who it is that gives you your narratives for the day. Now that's not very nice! Oh I see. I called it the corporate media and that made your butt hurt, because it means it isn't a "liberal media." Wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsidethebox Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Now that's not very nice! Oh I see. I called it the corporate media and that made your butt hurt, because it means it isn't a "liberal media." Wow Awwwww.......are you getting all butthurt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, westside said: Awwwww.......are you getting all butthurt? ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nkreed Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Since this thread has moved significantly toward propaganda and news sources, let's look at a little history. Operation Mockingbird "About a third of the whole CIA budget went to media propaganda operations... We're talking about hundreds of millions of dollars a year just for that... close to a billion dollars are being spent every year by the United States on secret propaganda." – Testimony of William Schapp to Congress. Among the organizations that would lend their help to the propaganda efforts was the New York Times, Newsweek, Associated Press, and the Miami Herald. One CIA document states: “Get books published or distributed abroad without revealing any U.S. Influence, by covertly subsidizing foreign publicans or booksellers... Get books published for operational reasons, regardless of commercial viability”. The Church Committee concluded that over 1000 books were published under this directive. Yes, supposedly Mockingbird stopped in the 70's. If things happened before, it is undoubtedly happening again. Remember, our government doesn't listen in on American's conversations, it's illegal. Except we found out that, nope they're doing it anyway. There are too many coincidences that point to collusion between media players. Independent thinkers don't come up with extremely similar answers. Our independent thinking is based on our life experiences. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, nkreed said: Since this thread has moved significantly toward propaganda and news sources, let's look at a little history. Operation Mockingbird "About a third of the whole CIA budget went to media propaganda operations... We're talking about hundreds of millions of dollars a year just for that... close to a billion dollars are being spent every year by the United States on secret propaganda." – Testimony of William Schapp to Congress. Among the organizations that would lend their help to the propaganda efforts was the New York Times, Newsweek, Associated Press, and the Miami Herald. One CIA document states: “Get books published or distributed abroad without revealing any U.S. Influence, by covertly subsidizing foreign publicans or booksellers... Get books published for operational reasons, regardless of commercial viability”. The Church Committee concluded that over 1000 books were published under this directive. Yes, supposedly Mockingbird stopped in the 70's. If things happened before, it is undoubtedly happening again. Remember, our government doesn't listen in on American's conversations, it's illegal. Except we found out that, nope they're doing it anyway. There are too many coincidences that point to collusion between media players. Independent thinkers don't come up with extremely similar answers. Our independent thinking is based on our life experiences. Much of the suspicion on Trump comes straight from Trump's mouth. His thousands of lies, his praise of murderous Putin and the pro-Russian propaganda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nkreed Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: Much of the suspicion on Trump comes straight from Trump's mouth. His thousands of lies, his praise of murderous Putin and the pro-Russian propaganda There are clips and there is context. If the clip is taken with context in mind, okay. If clips are used without provided context to got a theory, you've got a problem. I'm not here to even pick a side. I just want people to think for themselves and do some due diligence before coming to an opinion. Don't let someone else control your thoughts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 1 hour ago, 3rdnlng said: Sharyl Attkisson Sarah Carter Kimberley A. Strassel I wonder if anyone will pick up on this? I’ll take Sara Carter. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, nkreed said: There are clips and there is context. If the clip is taken with context in mind, okay. If clips are used without provided context to got a theory, you've got a problem. I'm not here to even pick a side. I just want people to think for themselves and do some due diligence before coming to an opinion. Don't let someone else control your thoughts Ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, njbuff said: I’ll take Sara Carter. ? Morphing into Boyst, I see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 1 minute ago, 3rdnlng said: Morphing into Boyst, I see. I’m not a tranny. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: We've never had a real Manchurian president either, so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 (edited) So when does the Trump having sex with Putin’s wife’s tape coming out? I heard they only have an audio version of it. Oh that treasonous Trump can’t keep his hands off Russian women. Or was it Ivanka in a three way with Putin and his wife? Edited January 16, 2019 by njbuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 9 minutes ago, Tiberius said: We've never had a real Manchurian president either, so... https://i.gifer.com/1j89.gif 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 21 minutes ago, njbuff said: So when does the Trump having sex with Putin’s wife’s tape coming out? I heard they only have an audio version of it. Oh that treasonous Trump can’t keep his hands off Russian women. Or was it Ivanka in a three way with Putin and his wife? "I never had anything to do with Russia" "The meeting in Trump Towers was about adoptions" "Putin strongly denies it, and I see no reason not to believe him." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Kemp said: That is just false. It's not his geo-political stance I question. I question his known, factual monetary ties to Russia, including his having to turn to Russian banks for financing help because American banks were tired of getting stiffed by him. It's his dealings in real estate with so many Russians and that in lieu of these things that his policies towards Russia and Putin differ from almost every other single person in government for many years. News of his financial involvements with Russia did not come from the "Deep State". They came from his own son. And that's where you are wrong. His financial "ties' to Russia start and end with condominium sales and potential real estate development deals. Nothing out of the ordinary if you take a dart and throw it at a board of countries with rich people in them. Those financial ties have been greatly exaggerated to drive a specific narrative, which you seem to have bought hook line & sinker. By that flimsy standard, Trump is also a Chinese and a German agent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 11 minutes ago, Tiberius said: "I never had anything to do with Russia" "The meeting in Trump Towers was about adoptions" "Putin strongly denies it, and I see no reason not to believe him." You see no reason not to believe him until he says something in contrast to what you believe then he will be a liar of huge proportions according to you. Counting down the days until that happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 43 minutes ago, njbuff said: I’m not a tranny. ? Neither was i Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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