Tiberius Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Just now, sabrecrazed said: Right... you mean the ones with original government doc s in them? The people who actually tell you where they get there information? People who are actually investigating the subject? Or is he linking to known barons of truth like buzzfeed and their anonymous sources? The average person who actually pays attention can figure out who is trying to confuse. But you haven't made it to average yet so you wouldn't understand. I'm above average enough to know that someone who posts ten thousand things and then makes an outlandish claims and says see, its clear as day, just spend a day or two reading the whole thing, or just trust me, is full of sh it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Tiberius said: I'm above average enough to know that someone who posts ten thousand things and then makes an outlandish claims and says see, its clear as day, just spend a day or two reading the whole thing, or just trust me, is full of sh it Looking in the mirror? Edited January 18, 2019 by Wacka 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabrecrazed Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 7 minutes ago, Tiberius said: I'm above average enough to know that someone who posts ten thousand things and then makes an outlandish claims and says see, its clear as day, just spend a day or two reading the whole thing, or just trust me, is full of sh it Even if everything your dumb ass just posted was true [laughable]. It doesn't change the fact that if douchebag actually wanted the answer to the question he posed... he could get it on his own. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 2 hours ago, Kemp said: Is this the list I requested that Rhino couldn't come up with? Atkinson is the anti-vaxxer. You guys are anti-vaxxers? I thought that those loons were Liberals. She is clearly a deep thinker. Never heard of Carter so I had to look her up. She seems to be most famous for always using unnamed sources (I thought you guys don't accapt that as verifiable) and appearing on Hannitty. She has appeared on a few Fox opinion shows but I can't find one instance of an appearance on a straight news show. Strassel is legit. I just disagree with her views (obviously), especially on Pruitt. Thanks for posting some names. You have more guts than Rhino. This only proves that you're lazy and disingenuous. The sample list provided by 3rd is something that you could have easily obtained on your own by reading any of the dozens of threads devoted to this topic. Your dismissals of the sources underscores the point as well. If you're looking for the truth, but unwilling to trust anyone who doesn't work for the main 3 broadcast networks, or the major national papers, then you aren't willing to have an open mind on this topic. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: I figured you be criticizing law enforcement for leaking this. Do you really, actually think Cohen was just lying all on his own about Trump's hotel deal, just because? The funny thing is, that it's almost like who cares. He is a dead man walking anyway. Where did I criticize Law Enforcement for leaking this? This wasn't leaked by law enforcement, it was leaked by an anonymous source which we're given no information aboutin the article itself. The truth is, if Cohen had evidence to support this claim he never would have been sentenced. This is the type of information that rats use to skate free. So that's strike one. Strike two is the fact that they had Trump under FISA surveillance during this time period. He doesn't use email, so the only evidence they could have are tapes of conversations between Trump and Cohen. If they had those then they would have acted immediately (because the charge is a big deal) rather than let him appoint not one but two SCOTUS picks. Bottom line is Buzzfeed, and these two journalists in particular, have a bad track record of these sorts of unsourced, evidence free stories blowing up in their faces. 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: No, he posts tweets from wing nuts and silly sources that are simply meant to confuse, fatigue and spread misinformation. False. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Where did I criticize Law Enforcement for leaking this? This wasn't leaked by law enforcement, it was leaked by an anonymous source which we're given no information aboutin the article itself. The truth is, if Cohen had evidence to support this claim he never would have been sentenced. This is the type of information that rats use to skate free. So that's strike one. Woooo!! Slow down. I said I was surprised you didn't because that is the source of the report, according to Buzzfeed. The second part is not true, he could have evidence that showed HE lied. A Rat? You call him a rat. Ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: Woooo!! Slow down. I said I was surprised you didn't because that is the source of the report, according to Buzzfeed. The second part is not true, he could have evidence that showed HE lied. A Rat? You call him a rat. Ok The second part is absolutely true. Mueller applied the pressure to Cohen for months, he went through great lengths to get his sentence reduced. If he had this smoking gun, he would have never been charged. Why? Because charging him for lying to Congress makes him a very ***** witness to call when you need his testimony to prove the smoke gun. These are the same two reporters who keep pushing the Cohen was in Prague story - one he denies, his attorney denies, and Mueller's team denies. Now they are making more claims about Cohen, without providing sourcing or evidence to support it... and we're supposed to take it on face value? The truth is what I said last night. The Ohr/Page testimony leaking has done tremendous damage to the claims of the FBI/DOJ/MSM complex. This story is a predictable attempt to change the focus. The likelihood of it being true are about the same as the likelihood of you not flubbing the response to this post. 29 minutes ago, GG said: This only proves that you're lazy and disingenuous. The sample list provided by 3rd is something that you could have easily obtained on your own by reading any of the dozens of threads devoted to this topic. He also could have figured out the truth about his doxxing attempt by reading... Kemp isn't a big thinker. He's an asshat, nothing more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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3rdnlng Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: This whole Trump Tower deal in Russia is farcical. I'm familiar with real estate development and I haven't seen one specific regarding the deal. The LOI that purportedly Trump's organization had was most likely an agreement with an entity in Russia who was to find a location for a fee. No location, price or any due diligence specifics have been quoted. There was no f'n deal. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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B-Man Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Quote CBS NewsVerified account @CBSNews FollowFollow @CBSNews "If this Buzzfeed News report is true... then we are likely on our way to possible impeachment proceedings because this is black and white, a very easily provable or chargeable crime," @paulareidcbs said on President Trump reportedly directing Michael Cohen to lie to Congress. A journalist report of news should never ever and I mean Never include “if this is true”. Simply irresponsible journalism. You either know what you know with strong supporting evidence or you don’t. Journalists reporting like this is why we have ‘Fake News’.... Quote MollieVerified account @MZHemingway 2h2 hours ago Which is why something close to 99% of media coverage on this story is infuriating. Meanwhile, reporting actual facts on FBI/DOJ malfeasance is ignored by same group. . 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 11 hours ago, Hedge said: (Thread) Former Clinton lawyers, too. 17 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: This whole Trump Tower deal in Russia is farcical. I'm familiar with real estate development and I haven't seen one specific regarding the deal. The LOI that purportedly Trump's organization had was most likely an agreement with an entity in Russia who was to find a location for a fee. No location, price or any due diligence specifics have been quoted. There was no f'n deal. Again, it's an example of how the only verifiable and objective "evidence" in these accusations reduces to nothing more than "he talked to Russians about something." Which is a weak-ass level of proof for "conspiracy" or "collusion." 3 hours ago, Kemp said: The truth about Rhino is that he is not a researcher, at all. He is a follower of an aggregator on Twitter. How impressive! No, he's a researcher. You want to cast aspersions on the quality of his conclusions, fine. I'm at most in half-agreement with him. But he's far more than just a Twitter aggregator on a football message board, and is far better informed than you are. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Does anyone really believe that Ivanka was going to move her family to Moscow to manage a spa? Quote Stephen MillerVerified account @redsteeze 25m25 minutes ago If you don't want people questioning the accuracy and legitimacy of your reporting when questions arise, then don't hire reporters with a history of inaccuracy and illegitimate reporting! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Buzzfeed is already backing off the article. Now who on the above list has connections to the Buzzfeed editorial staff and board? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 President Pelosi is trending on twitter... Meanwhile, the Buzzfeed story is crumbling. Hope-ium is a never ending source of amusement. "This time we REALLY got him!" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said: The second part is absolutely true. Mueller applied the pressure to Cohen for months, he went through great lengths to get his sentence reduced. If he had this smoking gun, he would have never been charged. Why? Because charging him for lying to Congress makes him a very ***** witness to call when you need his testimony to prove the smoke gun. These are the same two reporters who keep pushing the Cohen was in Prague story - one he denies, his attorney denies, and Mueller's team denies. Now they are making more claims about Cohen, without providing sourcing or evidence to support it... and we're supposed to take it on face value? No, you are totally wrong all around here. If he had a smoking gun he WOULDN'T be charged? Oh come on. And no these are not the same reporters. You are just factually incorrect. Is that on purpose? Trying to spread fake news here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary M Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 7 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: President Pelosi is trending on twitter... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, Tiberius said: No, you are totally wrong all around here. If he had a smoking gun he WOULDN'T be charged? Oh come on. That's how copping a plea works. 2 minutes ago, Tiberius said: And no these are not the same reporters. You are just factually incorrect. Is that on purpose? Trying to spread fake news here? They are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Trump is losing it. Cohen's exposing Trump's suborning of perjury has him in full temper tantrum mode. He tweeted that muslim prayer rugs have been found at Mexican border. What a complete joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tiberius Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: That's how copping a plea works. They are. Yes, by providing evidence of other crimes. No, buzzfeed isn't the organization that reported the Prague thing. Just now, Deranged Rhino said: (thread) Obviously because that isn't anywhere near the worst thing Trump has done. Hence, Rudy backing off on the "No Collusion" claim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: Yes, by providing evidence of other crimes. Which is what Buzzfeed is reporting Cohen has. If he had it then, he'd have used it to leverage a better deal than what he got. And it would have been reflected in Mueller's filings. Since neither happened, it's right to be suspect of this unsourced, evidence-free information. 2 minutes ago, Tiberius said: No, buzzfeed isn't the organization that reported the Prague thing. Wrong (even with the goal post shifting). Leopold and Cormier have reported extensively on Prauge, trying to make it stick despite no evidence to support the claim. https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/anthonycormier/trumps-lawyer-showed-you-the-cover-of-his-passport-heres#.tgK04xY4v https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/anthonycormier/trump-moscow-micheal-cohen-felix-sater-campaign#.jiRzrJwrE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 19 minutes ago, Tiberius said: 13 minutes ago, Tiberius said: 12 minutes ago, Tiberius said: lol..... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DC Tom Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 26 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: President Pelosi is trending on twitter... Meanwhile, the Buzzfeed story is crumbling. Hope-ium is a never ending source of amusement. "This time we REALLY got him!" At least it's not "President Clinton." 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Which is what Buzzfeed is reporting Cohen has. If he had it then, he'd have used it to leverage a better deal than what he got. And it would have been reflected in Mueller's filings. Since neither happened, it's right to be suspect of this unsourced, evidence-free information. Wrong (even with the goal post shifting). Leopold and Cormier have reported extensively on Prauge, trying to make it stick despite no evidence to support the claim. https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/anthonycormier/trumps-lawyer-showed-you-the-cover-of-his-passport-heres#.tgK04xY4v https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/anthonycormier/trump-moscow-micheal-cohen-felix-sater-campaign#.jiRzrJwrE No no, nice try, reporting on a news story is not breaking the story, it's repeating it. Mclatchy reported it Michael Cohen's cell phone detected near Prague in 2016 | McClatchy ... https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/investigations/article219016820.html Dec 27, 2018 - One of Michael Cohen's mobile phones briefly lit up cell towers in late summer of 2016 in the vicinity of Prague, undercutting his denials that he ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Just now, Tiberius said: No no, nice try, reporting on a news story is not breaking the story, it's repeating it. Mclatchy reported it Michael Cohen's cell phone detected near Prague in 2016 | McClatchy ... https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/investigations/article219016820.html Dec 27, 2018 - One of Michael Cohen's mobile phones briefly lit up cell towers in late summer of 2016 in the vicinity of Prague, undercutting his denials that he ... Like I said, goal post shifting. That's from December. Look at the dates of the articles I linked. They've been pushing the Prague story devoid of fact for over a year. Not just Buzzfeed, Jason and Cormeir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, B-Man said: lol..... Ya right. Your sorry cult like love of that pathetic, amoral POS can't hide the truth 2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Like I said, goal post shifting. That's from December. Look at the dates of the articles I linked. They've been pushing the Prague story devoid of fact for over a year. Not just Buzzfeed, Jason and Cormeir. Ok, point taken on that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, DC Tom said: At least it's not "President Clinton." Wait, do you mean the President Clinton the actual President Clinton who the men of the world ordered their wives and daughters to vote for, or the President Clinton who was supposed to be President Clinton who never became President Clinton because she forgot that there were 50 states in the Union? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 4 hours ago, Kemp said: I gave Rhino a couple days to answer, but he can't or won't... Which one of the 3 times he answered your question did you find unacceptable? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 12 minutes ago, Koko78 said: Which one of the 3 times he answered your question did you find unacceptable? All three. Reading comprehension ain't Kemp's strength. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Just now, Deranged Rhino said: All three. Reading comprehension ain't Kemp's strength. You'll notice that he's been given time to answer the question about his pedophilia, and can't or won't... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Koko78 said: You'll notice that he's been given time to answer the question about his pedophilia, and can't or won't... I fully expect him to deny, deny, deny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 21 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Wait, do you mean the President Clinton the actual President Clinton who the men of the world ordered their wives and daughters to vote for, or the President Clinton who was supposed to be President Clinton who never became President Clinton because she forgot that there were 50 states in the Union? What the ***** do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Just now, 3rdnlng said: I fully expect him to deny, deny, deny. That's a common trait amongst child molesters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 As I've been saying, the real power has shifted to the Senate in terms of these investigations. The only ones with actual oversight over the DOJ. The House will hold hearings that will draw a ton of resistance coverage, but the real action to watch is in the Senate Judiciary committee. This is a sign that Graham isn't going to play around. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 When Don Jr dunks on you, you know you've lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: Trump is losing it. Cohen's exposing Trump's suborning of perjury has him in full temper tantrum mode. He tweeted that muslim prayer rugs have been found at Mexican border. What a complete joke. YOU are losing it. Edited January 18, 2019 by Wacka 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 18 minutes ago, Wacka said: YOU are losing it. He never had it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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