LabattBlue Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 I can't see McDermott wanting to have no experienced backup, unless Peterman is a QB savant. I have TJ as the backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 We can put Cardale on the PS, don't worry nobody will take him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipster19 Posted April 30, 2017 Author Share Posted April 30, 2017 I guess my question is if Cardale gets the boot, and in my opinion that is what I expect, what could we get for him in return if anything? I don't think that it would be a draft pick so is there a player out there that we could trade for with him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Unless Nathan Peterman falls on his face, I would expect that Cardale Jones is the odd man out and will probably be gone sooner rather than later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 (edited) ....initially TT as your potential return starter (McD says earn it), Yates as your vet presence and Peterman beats out Cardale.....Peterman to PS but could be scooped up depending on OTA/pre-season showings....lose him or put him on active 53....... Edited April 30, 2017 by OldTimeAFLGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Kevi Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 I would be very surprised if Cardale gets cut. Makes sense to have Tyrod, Cardale, and Peterman on the roster this year in my opinion. None of those guys are going to realistically "step in and win" so no matter what if Ty goes down, it's season over so you might as well keep the prospects rather than known crappy backups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 I would be very surprised if Cardale gets cut. Makes sense to have Tyrod, Cardale, and Peterman on the roster this year in my opinion. None of those guys are going to realistically "step in and win" so no matter what if Ty goes down, it's season over so you might as well keep the prospects rather than known crappy backups. "Developmental" QBs can't sit for 3 years watching and learning these days. They'll be free agents after 4! If Cardale doesn't show major improvements in camp/preseason, he'll be gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Woodrum and Yates... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 (edited) "Developmental" QBs can't sit for 3 years watching and learning these days. They'll be free agents after 4! If Cardale doesn't show major improvements in camp/preseason, he'll be gone.But why cut the developmental guy when he is already as good as the scrub vet? That's the point. Yates is a 0% chance to be a franchise guy. Even if Cardale is < 5% it still makes more sense. You can always find a Yates on the street (in fact you will probably find Yates on the street). Edited April 30, 2017 by Kirby Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 If I was a betting man, come opening week, TT is your starter, TJ is the backup, Peterman is your 3rd, and Cardale goes to the practice squad. I don't even know where this other QB came from, but my guess is, he never even see training camp...not enough work to go around for 5 QB's. The Bills have LOTS of footballs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Kevi Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 "Developmental" QBs can't sit for 3 years watching and learning these days. They'll be free agents after 4! If Cardale doesn't show major improvements in camp/preseason, he'll be gone. I don't agree with this. What would be the point of keeping Woodrum or Yates over Cardale? What's the upside there? Cardale has had almost no game time at all please don't tell me you can accurately evaluate him as a QB, or particularly a QB in this system... But why cut the developmental guy when he is already as good as the scrub vet? That's the point. Yates is a 0% chance to be a franchise guy. Even if Cardale is < 5% it still makes more sense. You can always find a Yates on the street (in fact you will probably find Yates on the street). My point exactly. Well articulated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 I don't know that I would *expect* Cardale to be the odd man out. It's certainly possible. It's also very possible that they really like what they see out of Peterman and/or Jones and Yates is cut after Training Camp. He never said he was guaranteed a roster spot. Just that he'd come in and compete. I hope that our final QB's are Tyrod Taylor, Nathan Peterman, and Cardale Jones. Woodrum will be cut by the end of the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 But why cut the developmental guy when he is already as good as the scrub vet? That's the point. Yates is a 0% chance to be a franchise guy. Even if Cardale is < 5% it still makes more sense. You can always find a Yates on the street (in fact you will probably find Yates on the street). If Yates is not the #2, I would expect they scan the waiver wire come August looking for a vet backup, just in case the season goes well. If so, they would want a proven vet in case TT goes down. The only exception would be if Peterman just knocked their socks off in training camp and the preseason games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 I see it differently - Peterman replaces Cardale. Cardale was (probably) Whaley's guy, or (possibly) Rex's guy. I think drafting Peterman is a strong signal that McD doesn't expect Cardale to develop. Yates is the TT short-term injury insurance. Peterman is the developmental guy. Cardale is likely gone, and let's be honest: does anyone think we could get even a 7th rounder for him? I doubt it. I don't know if any decision in the "other" qb besides Tyrod and peterman has been made, but to my eyes it looks as if McDermott is setting a tone and culture for the organization. Cardale strikes me as more of a "Whaley" guy -- immense physical tools that, to Doug, outweighed perhaps questionable discipline, whereas peterman might be more from the McDermott mold. Time will tell. For what it's worth, I'm with Kirby. Yates is what he is and, at least this year, were better off with two developmental guys than with Yates on the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 I don't know that I would *expect* Cardale to be the odd man out. It's certainly possible. It's also very possible that they really like what they see out of Peterman and/or Jones and Yates is cut after Training Camp. He never said he was guaranteed a roster spot. Just that he'd come in and compete. I hope that our final QB's are Tyrod Taylor, Nathan Peterman, and Cardale Jones. Woodrum will be cut by the end of the week. ...based on his long term & prolific collegiate career at the OSU QB factory, he IS a keeper...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Yates was the insurance policy if they did not draft another QB. They will choose the experience of Yates versus the potential of Jokes over the next several weeks. Yates is so bad that Jones has a chance to beat him out even though Jones is terrible too. It doesn't matter because Mr. Peterman will be #2 by the time training camp opens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellyToughII Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Woodrum and Jones are gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 If Yates is not the #2, I would expect they scan the waiver wire come August looking for a vet backup, just in case the season goes well. If so, they would want a proven vet in case TT goes down. The only exception would be if Peterman just knocked their socks off in training camp and the preseason games. That is exactly why Yates is the odd man out. There is no value to protecting him. What does he do that Shaun Hill can't? Or Charlie Whitehurst? Those guys grow on trees and are totally interchangeable. They aren't on rosters, they are signed when the vet starter (Tyrod) goes out for an extended period of time and the young guys aren't ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 You dont just outright release qb draft picks I think C. Jones goes to practice squad unless the improvement in his game is significant from year 1 to year 2 QBs are just too hard to find Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsMagic1 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Can't we place Cardale on practice squad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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