sidbuff Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Finally the organization and front office with a well mind rounded coach waited for the right offer to trade down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderingsquid Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Yes, a level headed move with an eye on the future. It is evident that we have a plan and aren't flying blind or grasping at straws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidbuff Posted April 28, 2017 Author Share Posted April 28, 2017 You think the coach is doing more of the calling the shots??? Seems like the Pegula's went to the Bills front office and said - McDermott is going to call the shots here!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Bills make a good move and the coach gets all the credit. If we pick a player and he busts it's the Gms fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Funny looking at the war room pics on the Bills site. Terry is pictured sitting next to coach McDermott and smiling with him. Whaley is pictured by himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Bills make a good move and the coach gets all the credit. If we pick a player and he busts it's the Gms fault. History suggests that Whaley has been an overall bad drafter. This could end up being the best and most logical draft since he has been GM, and all are to assume it has nothing to do with Mcdermott. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Bills make a good move and the coach gets all the credit. If we pick a player and he busts it's the Gms fault. No, GM only takes the credit if it works. If it doesn't then fans hurry to absolve him of any responsibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Bills make a good move and the coach gets all the credit. If we pick a player and he busts it's the Gms fault. If you're going to blame him for everything that goes wrong, you should credit him for good moves as well, But the haters are convinced and don't care about justice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr8billsfan Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 IT was a great move to acquire an additional 1st round pick next year and getting us a second 3rd round pick this year. We did miss out on the #1 CB & LB, but that's fine. Next year we have two picks that will be solid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Doom Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Always excited for the future while depressed about the current season... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 If you're going to blame him for everything that goes wrong, you should credit him for good moves as well, But the haters are convinced and don't care about justice. Justice-how about the most loyal fanbase in the NFL starving for a playoff team. When do they get their justice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Justice-how about the most loyal fanbase in the NFL starving for a playoff team. When do they get their justice? Loyal fanbase? Bunch of damn whiners Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
likei've Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 IT was a great move to acquire an additional 1st round pick next year and getting us a second 3rd round pick this year. We did miss out on the #1 CB & LB, but that's fine. Next year we have two picks that will be solid. Meh... #1 according to whom? All the draftniks looked like they didn't know what they were talking about yesterday. People get too hung up on name recognition. just because some guy at ESPN says a player is the one to pick doesn't make it so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kota Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 (edited) You people act like the Bills didn't want to trade down in years previously. Teams are always looking to trade down to get more picks. The draft is a crap shoot no matter who is the GM. It's all about a players, other teams interests in that player and what they are looking to trade for the deal. People only trade into the top 10 from that far back if they are looking for a QB. By all accounts it was two GM's talking together. Doug would be an idiot to not get his coaches opinion or blessing on a move. Edited April 28, 2017 by kota Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Genius is a bit much, but the Bills did very well for themselves last night. Quality trade and quality pick. Here's a good article that discusses the trades for QBs last night: http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/19261281/how-lure-low-cost-qb-caused-bears-chiefs-texans-trade-2017-nfl-draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 (edited) Bills make a good move and the coach gets all the credit. If we pick a player and he busts it's the Gms fault. That's because almost none of us if any at all actually has a clue how all this works under the curtain. We are fantastic, however at rampant speculation!!! Edited April 28, 2017 by Over 28 years of fanhood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Sorry, but I have to wait to see if Sully and Bucky deem it was genius before I can make up my own mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock Pile Guy Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Loyal fanbase? Bunch of damn whiners Yeah, they forget when they were booing Brady in NE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samwell Tarly Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 That's because almost none of us if any at all actually has a clue how all this works under the curtain. We are fantastic, however at rampant speculation!!! Ya may be on to something... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidbuff Posted April 28, 2017 Author Share Posted April 28, 2017 Funny looking at the war room pics on the Bills site. Terry is pictured sitting next to coach McDermott and smiling with him. Whaley is pictured by himself. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 No, GM only takes the credit if it works. If it doesn't then fans hurry to absolve him of any responsibility. You must not read this board very often if you think that's the way it has been. most advocates of Whaley defend his ability to fill the roster with good talent. His draft results have been underwhelming to say the least. Last years draft is a big question mark due to our 1st 2 picks being injured. His free agent signings have been great. So you guys think McDermott was the guy that worked out the deal that netted us the 1st rd pick next year and a 3rd this year? Or did he just force Whaley to do it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUBSTER Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Bills make a good move and the coach gets all the credit. If we pick a player and he busts it's the Gms fault. That's very logical thinking. I'm glad that you've come to terms with this reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domdab99 Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 I don't understand why it matters whether McD or Whaley is responsible for the move. It was a good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 You think the coach is doing more of the calling the shots??? Seems like the Pegula's went to the Bills front office and said - McDermott is going to call the shots here!!! Whaley is just along for the ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Whaley is just along for the ride. We'll know more on Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 We'll know more on Sunday. I heard Whaley was sent out to get coffee after they traded back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearwater cadet Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 History suggests that Whaley has been an overall bad drafter. This could end up being the best and most logical draft since he has been GM, and all are to assume it has nothing to do with Mcdermott. I think Whaley is good at finding street free agents in a pinch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
145B4IDIE Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 I heard Whaley was sent out to get coffee after they traded back. Double-Double? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 (edited) You must not read this board very often if you think that's the way it has been. most advocates of Whaley defend his ability to fill the roster with good talent. His draft results have been underwhelming to say the least. Last years draft is a big question mark due to our 1st 2 picks being injured. His free agent signings have been great. So you guys think McDermott was the guy that worked out the deal that netted us the 1st rd pick next year and a 3rd this year? Or did he just force Whaley to do it? we had rex and the coach needed certain players so Whaley went out and got those players. 1st rd pick had question marks but still has tremendous upside. Raglands injury was unpredictable but he was highly regarded LB with some 1st rd grades on him that fell to use in the 2nd so not seeing the negative there. I think its the same as it has always been A consensus of the room.... The issue is Pegula's being the idiots they are hired Rex setting us back years because we are now shifting D schemes yet again. Can't do this crap every 2 years. Can't have your GM's and scouts hunting down specific players for a coach who wont be here in 2 years. Recipe foir the disaster we have right now So when the Pegulas step back from football decisions only then will we be able to tell who is doing what. Cause right now the Pegulas are making a fuster cluck of this organization.. Basically Ralph Wilson with more money at this point Edited April 28, 2017 by ddaryl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrivefourfive Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Is this the draft that shows Buffalo was right, and other more established coaches and FOs were wrong? It will prove one thing, or the other. But geez, if Mahomes and/or Watson hit, then Oh Boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Is this the draft that shows Buffalo was right, and other more established coaches and FOs were wrong? It will prove one thing, or the other. But geez, if Mahomes and/or Watson hit, then Oh Boy. I would have taken a qb. We went a different direction. The folks who hate Whaley tend to like the move we made, but they don't want to give him credit for it. That's the unfairness I see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungmack Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 You think the coach is doing more of the calling the shots??? Seems like the Pegula's went to the Bills front office and said - McDermott is going to call the shots here!!!Though the video evidence shows the trade was all Whaley? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrivefourfive Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 I honestly don't care who calls the shots, so long as they're right. It was bold, and not the easy thing to do, which might be a good thing. It's Bills' Time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Bills make a good move and the coach gets all the credit. If we pick a player and he busts it's the Gms fault. No it will be ALL his credit or all his fault. Cannot use excuse "Whaley's scouts gave him bad info". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Sorry, but I have to wait to see if Sully and Bucky deem it was genius before I can make up my own mind. I have to wait and see what they think of us on the Chiefs message boards before I can feel any confidence in myself at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Funny looking at the war room pics on the Bills site. Terry is pictured sitting next to coach McDermott and smiling with him. Whaley is pictured by himself. Well, given how things played out, that's exactly consistent wouldn't you say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Finally the organization and front office with a well mind rounded coach waited for the right offer to trade down. I was fine with whatever they did as long as it wasn't a total disaster. Hoping they can start steering the good ship in the right direction starting with the hiring McD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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