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Ex-Obama adviser warns of a potential repeat of the financial crisis

 

New York (CNN Business)Joe Biden could inherit an even more disastrous economy than Barack Obama did when he won the White House during the 2008 financial meltdown.

 

"Whoever is coming in there in January 2021 might be facing worse conditions than in 2009, as hard as that is to believe," Austan Goolsbee, who helped guide Obama through the Great Recession, told CNN Business.

 

Goolsbee, who chaired the president's Council of Economic Advisors in the aftermath of that crisis, is worried that the fragile economic recovery will stall if the worsening pandemic isn't quickly brought under control.


This is really playing with fire. They must get the spread of the virus under control. That's what almost every other country has done."

FORMER OBAMA ADMINISTRATION ECONOMIST AUSTAN GOOLSBEE

 

"That will tank the economy -— just like it tanked it before," Goolsbee said in the interview.


A worsening economy would cause countless companies and small businesses to collapse, forcing already-hurting banks to suffer massive losses.

 

"It could cause a financial crisis," said Goolsbee, currently a professor at the University of Chicago's Booth School of Business. "We could be back into conditions like the 2008 financial crisis."

 

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/26/business/austan-goolsbee-coronavirus-economy-recession/index.html

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2 hours ago, ALF said:

 

I won't believe that unless GG and Real Kay Adams agree with you.

 

https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/USA/united-states/gdp-growth-rate

B-Man is correct. We came out of the recession in early 2009 but especially considering how deep the recession was we never had anything other than an anemic recovery, for 8 years. 8 promised "summers of recovery" that amounted to nothing more than typical Obama empty promises. 

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2 hours ago, 3rdnlng said:

B-Man is correct. We came out of the recession in early 2009 but especially considering how deep the recession was we never had anything other than an anemic recovery, for 8 years. 8 promised "summers of recovery" that amounted to nothing more than typical Obama empty promises. 

 

Yeah, but on the bright side, many of his buddies became rich under his porkulus bills, getting full funding for the 'shovel ready jobs' that didn't exist.

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Pent up demand still is my guess. ?

This had expectations at 7%, every other article I read had the expectations at 6.5%. ?‍♂️ I chose this article because it wasn't "yeah but we are all gonna diiiiiiiiiieeeeee" as an intro.
 

Durable-goods orders climb 7.3% in June as auto maker surge offsets Boeing weakness
 

The numbers: Orders for durable goods lasting at least three years rose strongly in June for the second straight month after historic declines in the early spring, but the momentum might be hard to sustain in the wake of more coronavirus cases and somewhat tighter government restrictions.
 

Orders climbed 7.3% last month, the government said Monday. Wall Street economists had expected a 7% increase.
 

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9 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

The GOP stimulus plan cuts the money for the regular people and pumps up the deduction for three martini lunches. 

 

The useful idiots on the right worship their corporate masters 

 

https://thehill.com/policy/finance/509210-kudlow-gop-plan-will-include-increased-business-deductions-for-meals-and


BEST

PANDEMIC

EVER!!

 

???

 

Tee many martoonies.....

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America's economy just had its worst quarter on record

 

New York (CNN Business)The US economy contracted by 32.9% between April and June, its worst drop on record, the Bureau of Economic Analysis said Thursday.

 

Business ground to a halt during the pandemic lockdown in the spring of this year, and America plunged into its first recession in 11 years, putting an end to the longest economic expansion in US history.


A recession is commonly defined as two consecutive quarters of declining gross domestic product — the broadest measure of the economy. Between January and March, GDP declined by 5%.

 

 The GDP drop was nearly four times worse than during the peak of the financial crisis, when GDP fell 8.4% in the fourth quarter of 2008.


Quarterly GDP numbers are expressed as an annualized rate. This means that the economy didn't actually contract by a third from the first quarter to the second. The annualized rate measures how much the economy would grow or shrink if conditions were to persist for 12 months. But by either measure, the second quarter is still the worst on record.

 

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/30/economy/us-economy-2020-second-quarter/index.html

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8 minutes ago, ALF said:

America's economy just had its worst quarter on record

 

New York (CNN Business)The US economy contracted by 32.9% between April and June, its worst drop on record, the Bureau of Economic Analysis said Thursday.

 

Business ground to a halt during the pandemic lockdown in the spring of this year, and America plunged into its first recession in 11 years, putting an end to the longest economic expansion in US history.


A recession is commonly defined as two consecutive quarters of declining gross domestic product — the broadest measure of the economy. Between January and March, GDP declined by 5%.

 

 The GDP drop was nearly four times worse than during the peak of the financial crisis, when GDP fell 8.4% in the fourth quarter of 2008.


Quarterly GDP numbers are expressed as an annualized rate. This means that the economy didn't actually contract by a third from the first quarter to the second. The annualized rate measures how much the economy would grow or shrink if conditions were to persist for 12 months. But by either measure, the second quarter is still the worst on record.

 

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/30/economy/us-economy-2020-second-quarter/index.html

Are you better off than you were four years ago? Asks Joe Biden

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15 minutes ago, ALF said:

America's economy just had its worst quarter on record

 

New York (CNN Business)The US economy contracted by 32.9% between April and June, its worst drop on record, the Bureau of Economic Analysis said Thursday.

 

Business ground to a halt during the pandemic lockdown in the spring of this year, and America plunged into its first recession in 11 years, putting an end to the longest economic expansion in US history.


A recession is commonly defined as two consecutive quarters of declining gross domestic product — the broadest measure of the economy. Between January and March, GDP declined by 5%.

 

 The GDP drop was nearly four times worse than during the peak of the financial crisis, when GDP fell 8.4% in the fourth quarter of 2008.


Quarterly GDP numbers are expressed as an annualized rate. This means that the economy didn't actually contract by a third from the first quarter to the second. The annualized rate measures how much the economy would grow or shrink if conditions were to persist for 12 months. But by either measure, the second quarter is still the worst on record.

 

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/30/economy/us-economy-2020-second-quarter/index.html

 

I don't think that this was unexpected, and I expect that the third quarter, July through September, will likely to be as bad or even worse as areas with high coronavirus rates now struggle to contain community spread and Covid-19 spreads to new areas like the Upper South and Midwest.

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1 minute ago, SoTier said:

 

I don't think that this was unexpected, and I expect that the third quarter, July through September, will likely to be as bad or even worse as areas with high coronavirus rates now struggle to contain community spread and Covid-19 spreads to new areas like the Upper South and Midwest.

Maybe this will be the tonic that gets Mitch and the other GOP Senators to do something on stimulus,

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12 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Maybe this will be the tonic that gets Mitch and the other GOP Senators to do something on stimulus,

 

I doubt it.  I think the GOP is a prisoner of its own ideology, much as Herbert Hoover was a prisoner of his own ideology back in 1932 which made it impossible for him to effectively respond to the 1929 stock market crash.

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On 7/26/2020 at 7:04 PM, Koko78 said:

 

Yeah, but on the bright side, many of his buddies became rich under his porkulus bills, getting full funding for the 'shovel ready jobs' that didn't exist.

Which ones and which jobs? 

2 hours ago, Capco said:

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According to the Trumpers here,  either the fault of Obama/Hillary/China and/or “winning.”

 

frankly I’ve had enough “winning” for some time now.  

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On 3/9/2020 at 2:35 PM, 3rdnlng said:

Since you're a commie you probably don't have a dime yourself unless it was at first someone else's dime. 

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That's not because of oil prices you ninny. It's because some practices in China were not healthy and China hid the outbreak from the world.

 

BRAVO.  More insults from the collective.   

 

Just like Teddy, who BTW really does belong here...  But ...  why doesn't he contribute? <_<  He always tells me to take it to the PPP.

 

To your point ..  not that you had one 

 

Trump has claimed credit for cheap gas priced multiple times in the last year.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/trump-claims-credit-cheap-gas-experts-say-it-s-not-n953626

Jan 1, 2019 - Experts said Trump can take some credit for the increased supply of gas that has driven prices lower, but that fuel economics is a hugely complex ...

 

 

Then what did he do this year?  He urged on RAISING the price of gas. 

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/21/trump-pledges-financial-aid-to-oil-industry-198112

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/13/business/dealbook/oil-price-opec-deal.html

 

 

 

1/3  is that good???   (sarcasm)

 

23 hours ago - The U.S. economy suffered its sharpest downturn since at least the 1940s in the second quarter, highlighting how the pandemic has ravaged ...
21 hours ago - The U.S. economy shrunk at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 32.9 percent during the second quarter of 2020 as the first wave of the ...
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Breitbart?   LOL nothing like an unbiased media. 

 

Do you not recall when Obama was elected?   The Republicans want to see him fail and would do anything to stop him.  Green Energy was in the top 10 of their hit list 

 

When did McConnell say he wanted to make Obama a 'one ...

Sep 25, 2012 - “When I first came into office, the head of the Senate Republicans ... Now, after the election, either he will have succeeded in that goal or ... He said, his number-one goal was to make sure that Barack Obama was a one-term president.” ... president to fail” and cooperation was possible “if he's willing to meet ...
Feb 11, 2019 - WALLACE: You were there, of what the Republicans did to Barack ... to admit that congressional Republicans did not want to give Obama any legislative successes at all. ... that President Obama needed to get Republicans to make a deal. ... Trump Can't Stop the Election, But He Can Threaten Democracy.
 
Dec 13, 2019 - Mitch McConnell Brags About Blocking Barack Obama. HuffPost. Loading... Unsubscribe from ... Like: https://www.facebook.com/HuffPost
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47 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

 

Gotta get to Breitbart, eh?  No bias there!

 

Well, I was guessing that you would just look at the URLs and make a comment about a website while ignoring the content.

 

Nice to see you didn't disappoint.

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37 minutes ago, Koko78 said:

 

Well, I was guessing that you would just look at the URLs and make a comment about a website while ignoring the content.

 

Nice to see you didn't disappoint.


You can’t post breitbart and ever expect to be taken seriously by anyone who doesn’t drink the red Kool Aid.

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45 minutes ago, Koko78 said:

 

Well, I was guessing that you would just look at the URLs and make a comment about a website while ignoring the content.

 

Nice to see you didn't disappoint.

Find a better website, get a better result. 

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3 hours ago, Capco said:


You can’t post breitbart and ever expect to be taken seriously by anyone who doesn’t drink the red Kool Aid.

 

3 hours ago, SectionC3 said:

Find a better website, get a better result. 

 

Oh wow, a lecture from the two most disingenuous and intellectually dishonest asshats here! I feel so blessed.

 

One would almost think you morons also intentionally ignored the other 4 links I provided that said the same thing.

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18 minutes ago, Koko78 said:

 

 

Oh wow, a lecture from the two most disingenuous and intellectually dishonest asshats here! I feel so blessed.

 

One would almost think you morons also intentionally ignored the other 4 links I provided that said the same thing.

 

There you go again with your hoaxes.  Also, it's not nice to name call.  FYI - 

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2 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

 

There you go again with your hoaxes.  Also, it's not nice to name call.  FYI - 

 

Being intellectually dishonest and disingenuous isn't nice either, but you still manage.

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1 hour ago, Koko78 said:

 

Being intellectually dishonest and disingenuous isn't nice either, but you still manage.

 

...it IS an art form, right??.........PLENTY of "artists" 'round these parts.........

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9 minutes ago, Reality Check said:

 

Try the ignore feature.

 

You will thank me later.

 

Nah, his dishonesty and stupidity hasn't reached the level of being put on the 'ignore list'.

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22 minutes ago, Koko78 said:

 

Dishonest.

 

There you go again!

19 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

 

....I just cannot deprive myself of the humor........but I'll try....:thumbsup:

 

I'm surprised you know what it is!  I realize you graduated eighth grade with some sort of honor/recognition/participation trophy, but still . . . 

11 minutes ago, Koko78 said:

 

Nah, his dishonesty and stupidity hasn't reached the level of being put on the 'ignore list'.

 

Says the guy practicing in the thriving metropolis of Arcade!  

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2 hours ago, GG said:

 

Sounds like you fully support opening up the economy to get us out of the recession.


Why are they lying about the 32% drop? That would be a yearly rate (assuming Q2 numbers for 4 quarters which cannot happen in 2020 since Q1 was not a drop). It is not a Q2 number.

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10 hours ago, Capco said:


You can’t post breitbart and ever expect to be taken seriously by anyone who doesn’t drink the red Kool Aid.

 

 

Why?  Why are you so scared of opposing points of view?  If it's so inaccurate a story or report, tell us why.  

 

I don't care what anyone posts and from where.  

 

If I can easily debunk or refute when I disagree, I will.  

 

If I just say "If you're posting from the NY Times I can't take you seriously," I really didn't advance my own opinion/cause at all.

 

So while I know our entire MSM is hot garbage.  I'll just continue to point out why.  

 

 

The only people that continue to talk about sources they feel are legitimate and want to silence the rest are leftists.  They want us to be China.  Its why they never criticize them.  They really think we should be run like China. 

 

Censorship.  Crony Socialism.  Religious oppression.  Leftist wish list.  

 

 

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