KDIGGZ Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/01/02/ohio-state-safety-declares-for-nfl-draft/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mob16151 Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Been down this road before. Pass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/01/02/ohio-state-safety-declares-for-nfl-draft/ Lil donte? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mob16151 Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Lil donte? Seems like,I've never been impressed by him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted January 2, 2017 Author Share Posted January 2, 2017 I'd like to see them go for Peppers from Michigan but he's not a true safety. It will probably depend on who the DC is and what he sees as the best type to fill this role Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Been down this road before. Pass  Bills' fans are funny when they can't get past previous draft choices in order to fairly evaluate talented players entering the NFL. Well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koufax Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Seems like good value in the 2nd. Not interested at #10 where I don't think he will be the best player available. The only position I would even remotely consider going anything other than best player available is QB. Other than that, keep stacking this team with as much talent as possible in all rounds and only consider position when you have multiple players ranked similarly. Â If you draft lesser players because you think you need them and their position, you will continue to develop a lesser roster as the years pass by. Need in free agency when the draft leaves some holes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mob16151 Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Â Bills' fans are funny when they can't get past previous draft choices in order to fairly evaluate talented players entering the NFL. Well done. Nah Penn State fan,watch a **** load of big ten football. Not impressed by Hooker. Pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/01/02/ohio-state-safety-declares-for-nfl-draft/ Â I am personally not in favor of drafting one-season wonders. Let a guy prove he can bring it for several years before you put a first on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Nah Penn State fan,watch a **** load of big ten football. Not impressed by Hooker. Pass. Â That explains everything to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mob16151 Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Â That explains everything to me. Lol,has nothing to do with it. The one year Hooker was good PSU won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 I'd like to see them go for Peppers from Michigan but he's not a true safety. It will probably depend on who the DC is and what he sees as the best type to fill this rolePassing of Hooker (or Adams) for Peppers would be a massive mistake IMO. Peppers is an athlete without a position or crazy production. He has 1 turnover in his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mob16151 Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 A'doree Jackson please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Lol,has nothing to do with it. The one year Hooker was good PSU won.He only played one year and he was the Big 10 defensive player of the year. They compare him to Ed Reed. I've seen every snap that he's played this year and I'm not sure how you couldn't be impressed? What about his game don't you like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DallasMac Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Passing of Hooker (or Adams) for Peppers would be a massive mistake IMO. Peppers is an athlete without a position or crazy production. He has 1 turnover in his career. Agree completely. Glad Hooker declared. Either him or Adams would be great pickups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mob16151 Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 He only played one year and he was the Big 10 defensive player of the year. They compare him to Ed Reed. I've seen every snap that he's played this year and I'm not sure how you couldn't be impressed? What about his game don't you like? Dude relies on athleticism too much. Great athlete,but in the NFL he's not going to be the best athlete on the field. I've seen him take a ton of ****ty angles,And make a bunch of poor reads. Plus all he really does in OSU' s defense is play center field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 He only played one year and he was the Big 10 defensive player of the year. They compare him to Ed Reed. I've seen every snap that he's played this year and I'm not sure how you couldn't be impressed? What about his game don't you like? Â Agreed...And I'm not sweating Hooker because I see almost no chance he get to #10... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DallasMac Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Agreed...And I'm not sweating Hooker because I see almost no chance he get to #10... I'm curious which will go first between him and Adams. I feel like Adams is the better all around safety but Hooker is the better pass defender. Both great players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 (edited) Drafting a guy because he had 3 pick sixes would be an exceptionally Billsy move. It would be like drafting a first round QB who won four bowl games. Edited January 2, 2017 by KD in CA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Drafting a guy because he had 3 pick sixes would be an exceptionally Billsy move. It would be like drafting a first round QB who won four bowl games.He will universally be viewed as a top 15 pick. It's not a reach in any way. Dude relies on athleticism too much. Great athlete,but in the NFL he's not going to be the best athlete on the field. I've seen him take a ton of ****ty angles,And make a bunch of poor reads. Plus all he really does in OSU' s defense is play center field.He's done a lot more than play CF. He has played a lot near the LOS the 2nd half of the year. He has taken some questionable angles but has offset it with his athleticism which is insane. He will be an elite athlete at the next level. Hopefully, with experience he will grow at diagnosing plays. His playmaking ability is off the charts. Adams is more complete I think but his ceiling isn't near Hooker's. There is tremendous value to either guy. They are the best safety prospects in years IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 He will universally be viewed as a top 15 pick. It's not a reach in any way. Â That's good to know. I just get very nervous about those eye popping stats that people get hung up on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted January 2, 2017 Author Share Posted January 2, 2017 (edited) Good news is we should definitely be able to get one of them (Hooker or Adams) Edited January 2, 2017 by kdiggz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 I think that when all is said and done these guys may grade out as high as any safety since Sean Taylor. Does that guarantee that they'll be great, no but I'll take my chances with talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/01/02/ohio-state-safety-declares-for-nfl-draft/ Â BOOM!!!!!!!!!!!! HELL YES!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Â I am personally not in favor of drafting one-season wonders. Let a guy prove he can bring it for several years before you put a first on them. Amen - especially high in the first round Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 There is an interesting discussion on Matt Miller's twitter right now of Adams vs. Hooker. I think that the Bills should have a shot at 1 of them but probably not both. It's possible that both are off the board. These guys are ELITE prospects, they just so happen to play a position of dire need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted January 2, 2017 Author Share Posted January 2, 2017 There is an interesting discussion on Matt Miller's twitter right now of Adams vs. Hooker. I think that the Bills should have a shot at 1 of them but probably not both. It's possible that both are off the board. These guys are ELITE prospects, they just so happen to play a position of dire need. I just watched YouTube on Adams. Doesn't look as athletic but he looks like a man. He could step right in day 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USABuffaloFan Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Not with the 10th pick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 I just watched YouTube on Adams. Doesn't look as athletic but he looks like a man. He could step right in day 1Yeah, he's a big kid with a ton of production. He's kind of "idiot proof" as a prospect. He doesn't have Hooker's ceiling but he has fewer question marks. He's kind of like Jake Mathews as a prospect a few years ago. You plug him in day one and he starts for years. He has a high ceiling and a high floor. I really like guys like that in the top 10. Give me a "bust proof" guy, that could be a multi-time Pro Bowler. That's what Adams is to me.Not with the 10th pick!He is on the Bears radar at 3... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted January 2, 2017 Author Share Posted January 2, 2017 (edited) If the DC is Bradley I might expect him to lean towards Adams. Big safety that can cover tight ends (Gronk and Bennett) and deliver hits much like Kam Chancellor. Â Edit - actually it looks like that could be either guy really. Hooker is 6'2". Just needs to bulk up a bit maybe. He's young still, he certainly can do so Edited January 2, 2017 by kdiggz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 I probably prefer Adams. "Adams" sounds American and downright presidential. Hooker is a guy you can find on the street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big74Mac Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 No Thanks. No DB's in the first round. Take those guys in the second and third rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 No Thanks. No DB's in the first round. Take those guys in the second and third rounds. Â Earl Thomas and Eric Berry both say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Looking good to get an impact player at a position of need at 10! Sign me up for Hooker, Adams, Williams or Davis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Looking good to get an impact player at a position of need at 10! Sign me up for Hooker, Adams, Williams or Davis.That's my exact list too at 10!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 At worst it deepens the draft and hurts the Blankeyes. Â Win-Win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 (edited)  I am personally not in favor of drafting one-season wonders. Let a guy prove he can bring it for several years before you put a first on them. coaching miscalculation IMO that he wasn't playing last year ahead of Tyvis but incredibly common for elite talent to not see the field until second year after RS if there is an experienced captain ahead of them. Happens all the time. He could play two more years here, but getting him this young is the benefit like it was with Bosa and Zeke, both only 20 when drafted. In fact Tyvis left early too. Had he returned, Captain Hook might still be in waiting. Edited January 2, 2017 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleAndHungry Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 some scouts say that malik hooker is the best safety college prospect they've ever seen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Not with the 10th pick! You're right--Malik Hooker will be off the board by the time the Bills pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 You're right--Malik Hooker will be off the board by the time the Bills pick. I'll be ok with that if it pushes adams down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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