aristocrat Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 at this stage of his contract, absolutely! I'm with Tasker. If a team offers two firsts, or a first and a second for EJ, I think we have to seriously consider it. I'd have to hold out for 3 1sts. it's fair value Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 Tasker is off his rocker. No 2nd string QB in the entire league could command that kind of compensation. Yeah, I'm pretty sure the market was established when the Jags sent Gabbert to the 49ers for a 6th and a conditional pick the following year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 (edited) So your saying he is EJ 2.0 at this point. Doubling down instead of owning it, huh? No, that's not what I'm saying, and anyone that's watched the two players can see the obvious differences. EJ started 30 games in college (including 4 bowl games) across 4 seasons, and was a career 67% passer; Cardale started 8 games across 2 seasons (1 bowl game) and was a career 62% passer. One of them ran an offense with some pro-style facets to it; the other ran Urban Meyer's offense. EJ has played against 1's and 2's this preseason, has lead 5 scoring drives, and has looked slightly improved from where he was least year; Cardale has played exclusively against 3's and has lead a total of 1 scoring drive while completing fewer than 50% of his passes. You were wrong about Cardale because you chose to base your opinion off of the fact that you don't like EJ. Thankfully, our coaches are not so misguided. Edited September 2, 2016 by thebandit27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 Yeah, I'm pretty sure the market was established when the Jags sent Gabbert to the 49ers for a 6th and a conditional pick the following year. The majority of starting QBs couldn't fetch the picks that Tasker mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 I find it amazing that we get to a real good situation with our QBs and now some want to over optimize it! Jeez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 Sullivan seemed unnecessarily personal and nasty in the linked article. I get that he is normally a sour puss because he has never been with a woman, but this had a little extra zing. It's pretty unprofessional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 Sullivan seemed unnecessarily personal and nasty in the linked article. I get that he is normally a sour puss because he has never been with a woman, but this had a little extra zing. It's pretty unprofessional. Sully has gone off the deep end. He said EJ should not even be on an NFL roster. Absolutely roasted Whaley for Sammy and for "lying" about Shaq's injury. Even on the Sully scale, this was way bitterman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest K-GunJimKelly12 Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 It is apparent to me that Sully is just riding it out at this point. He used to be a good writer but now I think he is mailing it in to retirement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 I'm with Tasker. If a team offers two firsts, or a first and a second for EJ, I think we have to seriously consider it. Yeah, if someone offered you a 1st for Sammy Seamster it would also be worth considering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 Sullivan seemed unnecessarily personal and nasty in the linked article. I get that he is normally a sour puss because he has never been with a woman, but this had a little extra zing. It's pretty unprofessional. What is less than "phoning it in"? That is even substandard based on Sully's very low standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockinon Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 I'm with Tasker. If a team offers two firsts, or a first and a second for EJ, I think we have to seriously consider it. That is an opportunity they certainly would not pass up. I just don't think anyone would take that bait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 Yeah, if someone offered you a 1st for Sammy Seamster it would also be worth considering. Pah. He is worth at least two #1s..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 Tasker is off his rocker. No 2nd string QB in the entire league could command that kind of compensation. Hi Per Bow Lay by the Tasker! It is apparent to me that Sully is just riding it out at this point. He used to be a good writer but now I think he is mailing it in to retirement. Which can't come soon enough. He's a bitter man who writes like he has a bad case of hemorrhoids and he's being forced to sit on them while he types. His world is filled with bile like what he probably throws up into his mouth whenever anything good happens WRT The Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 (edited) Doubling down instead of owning it, huh? You were wrong about Cardale because you chose to base your opinion off of the fact that you don't like EJ. Thankfully, our coaches are not so misguided. Old school blindly fell hard for Cardale after one completion. At least he didn't praise Jordan Palmers footwork so he's got that going for him. Edited September 2, 2016 by Ryan L Billz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 Old school blindly fell hard for Cardale after one completion. At least he didn't praise Jordan Palmers footwork so he's got that going for him. Guy was the Fred Astaire of QB's! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 Old school blindly fell hard for Cardale after one completion. At least he didn't praise Jordan Palmers footwork so he's got that going for him. Hey, I think Cardale has all the tools to be a better QB than EJ, so I can't fault anyone for being excited about him. I cannot possibly fathom, however, how anyone could look at his game performances and think he's ready to play in the NFL, let alone ready to overtake a guy that's started and won games in this league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 Every O-lineman who blocked for EJ vs Detroit last night was cut today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 Every O-lineman who blocked for EJ vs Detroit last night was cut today. Except for Groy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsxfirefighter Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 Every O-lineman who blocked for EJ vs Detroit last night was cut today. If they actually "blocked for EJ", they might have not been cut.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 EJ is horrible that is all (cue he had to play with backups .... and he is a backup so ... ) Yes Cardale is yrs away (maybe) and horrible too, Whaley just sux at QBs Consider it? It should be a done deal, I'd do backflips for one 1st. Yes we should trade EJ for John Skelton! No idea why Whaley does not have you on his speed dial for figuring out which QB to draft. Sullivan seemed unnecessarily personal and nasty in the linked article. I get that he is normally a sour puss because he has never been with a woman, but this had a little extra zing. It's pretty unprofessional. I do not see why Sullivan's choice of sex partners, even if they are non-human, should be added to this conversation. Every O-lineman who blocked for EJ vs Detroit last night was cut today. None of them would have been cut if EJ had not been QB! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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