Just Jack Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Article - https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/new-poll-finds-9-in-10-native-americans-arent-offended-by-redskins-name/2016/05/18/3ea11cfa-161a-11e6-924d-838753295f9a_story.html Graphs - https://www.washingtonpost.com/apps/g/page/sports/poll-native-americans-attitudes-toward-the-washington-redskins-team-name/2034/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Ruh Roh..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Maybe they should have polled white, urban SJWs to get the 'correct' answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzelaars_lives Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 This survey has already been disputed and essentially refuted but congratulations to the people who worry about the "wussification of America" and "political correctness run amok." Tonight is your night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwight in philly Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 give credit to donald trump,for creating an atmosphere of nonPC . he seems to be ending the "wussification" of america. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 This survey has already been disputed and essentially refuted By who? The Stasi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 This is a concocted "controversy" inspired by the safe-space types. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleed Bills Blue Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 The only thing about "Washington Redskins" that offends me is "Washington". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzelaars_lives Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 give credit to donald trump,for creating an atmosphere of nonPC . he seems to be ending the "wussification" of america. Well done. I think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 By who? The Stasi? Apparently they polled a massive population of ~500 people. I have seen people argue the sample size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Quint Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Thats not the case if you ask Tim "Proudfoot" Graham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 (edited) This is a concocted "controversy" inspired by the safe-space types. Cool. If it's not an offensive term, then lets you and I head down to the rez. I want to watch you walk around and greet people with "What's up, Redskin?! " and see how that all goes over. Shouldnt be a problem since it's a term of "respect" and this article proves that no one cares about it, right? ANYONE that thinks the name isnt a problem and shouldnt be changed should accept this challenge. Let me know when you want to head down. Edited May 20, 2016 by DrDareustein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Cool. If it's not an offensive term, then lets you and I head down to the rez. I want to watch you walk around and greet people with "What's up, Redskin?! " and see how that all goes over. Shouldnt be a problem since it's a term of "respect" and this article proves that no one cares about it, right? ANYONE that thinks the name isnt a problem and shouldnt be changed should accept this challenge. Let me know when you want to head down. Okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fingon Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 over ? can no longer be called red meat as this is offensive and must be called Skeletal Striated Contractile Protein SJW= Social Justice Warrior. SJWs are generally crazy people that believe some really crazy ****. These are people that think air conditioning is sexist: Apparently it's sexist to ban all single gender clubs, and not exclude women from that rule: https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2016/05/09/harvard-women-rally-against-single-gender-policy/h8AqIk3ub40v2cnLap4gFP/story.html There are many, many more examples but the general rule is that SJWs wish the oppressed to become the opressors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Okay. What time you want to meet at Smokin Joe's on Monday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 What time you want to meet at Smokin Joe's on Monday? The same time I'm there every Monday. 9:30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 The same time I'm there every Monday. 9:30. Ooh, it's a bit of a hike but I should be able to make it that early on Monday. Will PM you details this weekend. No fair if you are actually Joe though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 (edited) Ooh, it's a bit of a hike but I should be able to make it that early on Monday. Will PM you details this weekend. No fair if you are actually Joe though. I can't promise you'll be safe, you Custer. Quick question though. If I walked around calling every NA a "Seminole," wouldn't a large majority get mad/offended? Does that make it racist and /or derogatory? Edited May 20, 2016 by FireChan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Wouldnt the Cleveland "Indians" be offensive? And someone named Bill might take offense to the Buffalo Bills so let's change that too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 I can't promise you'll be safe, you Custer. Quick question though. If I walked around calling every NA a "Seminole," wouldn't a large majority get mad/offended? Does that make it racist and /or derogatory? Yes, they'd probably get mad. But not because the term itself is racist or derogatory, rather because your incorrect use of it is insulting. It's like the difference between calling a Korean person Chinese (annoying, insulting, and you look like an ignorant ass), versus calling them a chink (racist, hateful, derogatory). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 (edited) Yes, they'd probably get mad. But not because the term itself is racist or derogatory, rather because your incorrect use of it is insulting. It's like the difference between calling a Korean person Chinese (annoying, insulting, and you look like an ignorant ass), versus calling them a chink (racist, hateful, derogatory). I think it could be very easily argued that calling someone appearing Oriental "Chinese" is racist. Like the definition. It's insulting because you're making an assumption of their race based on how they look, no? Edited May 20, 2016 by FireChan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 I think it could be very easily argued that calling someone appearing Oriental "Chinese" is racist. Like the definition. It's insulting because you're making an assumption of their race based on how they look, no? lol, "oriental". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 lol, "oriental". Jesus, is that one derogatory too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 (edited) Jesus, is that one derogatory too? "Jesus", thats a sin. You just cant win bro. And yes, Asians are people, "Oriental" describes things like rugs, vases, etc. Edited May 20, 2016 by DrDareustein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 "Jesus", thats a sin. You just cant win bro. And yes, Asians are people, "Oriental" describes things like rugs, vases, etc. I thought Oriental just meant pertaining to the East. That's on me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Here we go. Did a moderator really start this one? Over/under on this one lasting two pages at even money. Wow. Kinda like the firemen in Fahrenheit 451. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Which bathroom can a native American use? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 I thought Oriental just meant pertaining to the East. That's on me. Ha aint no thing. I just thought it was funny given our topic of conversation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Now I want Chinese food served by a native American in the women's bathroom in the city of Washington DC. Actually, if you bred Chinese to Native American would they be a yellow skin? Or would be a yerrow skin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talley56 Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 The only thing about "Washington Redskins" that offends me is "Washington". Interestingly, for as much as people say that the Giants and Jets should be called New Jersey and not New York for the same reasons the Redskins should really be the Maryland Redskins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 (edited) Now I want Chinese food served by a native American in the women's bathroom in the city of Washington DC. Actually, if you bred Chinese to Native American would they be a yellow skin? Or would be a yerrow skin? Yellow plus Red is Orange, dude. edit: I guess Syracuse would have to change their name, AGAIN (they used to be the Saltine Warriors, but moved away from that racist mascot in the 70s) Edited May 20, 2016 by DrDareustein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Yellow plus Red is Orange, dude. so they would be fake tans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homey D. Clown Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Article - https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/new-poll-finds-9-in-10-native-americans-arent-offended-by-redskins-name/2016/05/18/3ea11cfa-161a-11e6-924d-838753295f9a_story.html Graphs - https://www.washingtonpost.com/apps/g/page/sports/poll-native-americans-attitudes-toward-the-washington-redskins-team-name/2034/ Maybe they should have polled white liberals offended by everything. That would make for a biased result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 (edited) New Poll: How many Native Americans own a Redskins' jersey? And what percentage of Native Americans is that? Guess you should have taken the over on the page count Edited May 20, 2016 by iinii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir andrew Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Didn't you know? https://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/2008/05/28/101-being-offended/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFFacet Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Maybe they should have polled white, urban SJWs to get the 'correct' answer. ? Its a derogatory term used by trolls to refer to normal people that bother to argue with trolls on the internet. Sort of like a millennial version of the term, "libtard." Accordingly, the vast majority of the people wielding the cudgel are less intelligent and less reasonable than the vast majority of the people it is wielded against. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwight in philly Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Its a derogatory term used by trolls to refer to normal people that bother to argue with trolls on the internet. Sort of like a millennial version of the term, "libtard." Accordingly, the vast majority of the people wielding the cudgel are less intelligent and less reasonable than the vast majority of the people it is wielded against. is that an opinion or a fact? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 If you called me an a**hole, or any other insulting word, I wouldn't feel offended because my self-esteem is internal and not based on what you say. But calling another human being 'a**hole' is wrong nonetheless. What if only 10% of blacks said the 'N" word was offensive? Would it then be okay to use it as a team nickname? What if only 10% of Hispanics felt offended by the pejorative "sp*c." Could we then name a NFL club with that term? This poll, and questions of methodology aside, the "Redsk*n" name remains wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxy312 Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Folks, there's hundreds of Native American high schools and middle schools that use implied derogatory names for their teams. The media completely ignores this and continues on the path of trying to make a villain out of the Washington Redskins. I'm about 12.5% Five Nations-Seneca Tribe-Waterson Clan and just don't see it. It comes down to context for me, and if you're going to make the Redskins team name a bad thing, then we need to make every rapper using the "N-word" a bad thing as well. Now I don't believe that necessarily either, as again, I think you have to put it everything in context. Redskins, Yankees, Indians, Patriots, Browns, and many other team names can offend someone that puts the name in their own context. Does that mean we should abandon all of sports history in the name of being politically correct for the minority? Sounds pretty stupid to me all around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Folks, there's hundreds of Native American high schools and middle schools that use implied derogatory names for their teams. The media completely ignores this and continues on the path of trying to make a villain out of the Washington Redskins. I'm about 12.5% Five Nations-Seneca Tribe-Waterson Clan and just don't see it. It comes down to context for me, and if you're going to make the Redskins team name a bad thing, then we need to make every rapper using the "N-word" a bad thing as well. Now I don't believe that necessarily either, as again, I think you have to put it everything in context. Redskins, Yankees, Indians, Patriots, Browns, and many other team names can offend someone that puts the name in their own context. Does that mean we should abandon all of sports history in the name of being politically correct for the minority? Sounds pretty stupid to me all around. If the "media completely ignores this," did you find out for yourself by driving around the country checking for mascot names? Or did you learn it in the media? I respect your point of view. While we can argue numbers, certainly a substantial percentage of Native Americans do not consider the word offensive. So do we just say FU to the ones that do? Or can we respect their point of view, too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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