mellaman101 Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 http://www.reviewjournal.com/business/tourism/raiders-owner-mark-davis-address-state-panel-discuss-proposed-stadium-move-las Pressure for a new building or anyone think this is for real? Does this put the pressure on for Buffalo and any other small market to upgrade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 http://www.reviewjournal.com/business/tourism/raiders-owner-mark-davis-address-state-panel-discuss-proposed-stadium-move-las Pressure for a new building or anyone think this is for real? Does this put the pressure on for Buffalo and any other small market to upgrade? Buffalo can't face pressure because the ownership has no interest in moving. That's all that matters. With that being said, I would expect a new stadium at the end of this lease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellaman101 Posted April 13, 2016 Author Share Posted April 13, 2016 NFL is the hottest game in the world next to football (soccer). These owners do not care and fans or fan bases at all. Would be very sad for Raider fans if this team moves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 The Raiders moving, would not surprise me. Moving to Las Vegas, would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 Buffalo can't face pressure because the ownership has no interest in moving. That's all that matters. With that being said, I would expect a new stadium at the end of this lease. Yes. And yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 Buffalo can't face pressure because the ownership has no interest in moving. That's all that matters. With that being said, I would expect a new stadium at the end of this lease. Perfectly said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 They could threaten the Bills to not get a Superbowl unless they get a new stadium but I think the Pegulas would laugh at them knowing Buffalo will never get one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 Correct. Buffalo is never getting a SB. This is not an indictment of Buffalo given I was born and raised there and my best weekend of the year is taking my boys to the game along with we made it up to 18 relatives going together this year. Guys in Tampa, we've had a bunch of SB and these corporate types are not going to Buffalo in February. Not in the Taj Mahal of dome stadiums. Besides for regular guys like us, who cares about a SB in your city. It clogs up traffic, your priced out of anything interesting, and simply not worth it. Buffalo doesn't have the hotels or the other parameters so this lure of a stadium is BS on getting a SB. Bottom line is we'll get a new stadium after the lease, and it will probably be down in the 1st ward, and linked into Pegulas other investments. Makes sense although I would hate not having the OP for tailgating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DallasBillsFan1 Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 I like and support the Vegas idea. They would still draw fans from California (less than a 1 hour flight from LA or San Fran) plus the local population plus all the visitors that flock to Vegas. In fact, Vegas is perfect for the NFL. I think that Southern California will be a disaster within a span of 5 years for the Rams and/or Chargers, the fans, and their respective owners. There will be low attendance (ala Jacksonville) due to abhorrent traffic (LA has 24/7 traffic ... really really bad traffic all the time, I used to live there), stifling cost to the fan (tix and parking), cost of living for players will increase 3-4x what they were paying ..... and low revenues for owners. Building a new stadium in SOCAL will cost well over 2 bil due to the cost of building in that state plus requirements to use union workers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 i have no problems with Vegas. This is like watching too much Boardwalk Empire. It's not the MLB 1919 World Series. The chances of betting in Vegas is the same as Spokane with the digital age. If Oakland won't worth the team, then they have options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gpodpdx Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 (edited) I like and support the Vegas idea. They would still draw fans from California (less than a 1 hour flight from LA or San Fran) plus the local population plus all the visitors that flock to Vegas. In fact, Vegas is perfect for the NFL. I think that Southern California will be a disaster within a span of 5 years for the Rams and/or Chargers, the fans, and their respective owners. There will be low attendance (ala Jacksonville) due to abhorrent traffic (LA has 24/7 traffic ... really really bad traffic all the time, I used to live there), stifling cost to the fan (tix and parking), cost of living for players will increase 3-4x what they were paying ..... and low revenues for owners. Building a new stadium in SOCAL will cost well over 2 bil due to the cost of building in that state plus requirements to use union workers. I respectively disagree with "plus all the visitors that flock to Vegas." I don't think people would want to give up a whole day of their Las Vegas trip for an NFL game. Even less so if you can see one at home. Tickets will probably be exorbitant. Like most NFL tickets, you will have buy them months in advance. Much easier to get tickets to a show. Based on your quote, why would all these "visitors" even root for the Raiders when they probably already have a fav team? I don't think Las Vegas and the NFL go together. They wouldn't really even have a true "home" crowd. I also disagree with your prediction that attendance will be low in LA. Outrageous, my friend! It'll be a hot ticket. I bet every home game will be sold out. And it doesn't matter if it costs $2B. It will get built. I'm familiar with the Hollywood Park area where the stadium will be built and it is at the intersection of two major freeways and is easy to get to. Edited April 13, 2016 by gpodpdx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 http://www.reviewjournal.com/business/tourism/raiders-owner-mark-davis-address-state-panel-discuss-proposed-stadium-move-las Pressure for a new building or anyone think this is for real? Does this put the pressure on for Buffalo and any other small market to upgrade? I don't think the Pegulas feel pressure and act on what is in best interest for them and the team. Would love the Raiders to move there, would just feel right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr8billsfan Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 It really would become 'Sin City'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 They could threaten the Bills to not get a Superbowl unless they get a new stadium but I think the Pegulas would laugh at them knowing Buffalo will never get one. Not really much of a threat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dombie Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 One unfortunate thing about Las Vegas would be how the hotels would jack up the prices on home game weekends, very similar to major fight weekends. When something big is going on in Vegas, Vegas hotels charge big $! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellaman101 Posted April 13, 2016 Author Share Posted April 13, 2016 Buffalo will never see a Superbowl unless that stadium in on the falls and Buffalo builds about 30 more hotels. Pittsburgh build their new stadium and the NFL laughed at them when the Rooney's asked for Pittsburgh's turn to reap some awards...... I dont see it happening unless its roof is controllable or a dome. Too cold, too much wind and snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 Raiders could save $550M relocation fee by sharing 49er stadium. Maybe Oakland will build them a new stadium in the future to move back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 (edited) There are worse places for a NFL team than Vegas. Seems like it could work. And it would be a great destination for fans of the road teams. I think that would help them fill the stadium week to week. Edited April 13, 2016 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordio Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 There are worse places for a NFL team than Vegas. Seems like it could work. And it would be a great destination for fans of the road teams. I think that would help them fill the stadium week to week. Agreed. & with all the money in that city thru the Casinos & such I don't think selling corporate suites for big time money would ever be a problem. You know every Casino is going to want to have their own suite if for nothing else than to give it away on game days to their high rollers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 Raiders could save $550M relocation fee by sharing 49er stadium. Maybe Oakland will build them a new stadium in the future to move back. I don't know why the Raiders & 49'ers refuse to share Levi's Stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 I don't know why the Raiders & 49'ers refuse to share Levi's Stadium.right? It's basically like Jets/Giants at MetLife Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumbalaya Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 vegas is the perfect spot for the Raiders. Bills - Raiders game in Vegas and I am there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 it's like deja vu all over again http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/184769-raiders-to-las-vegas/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billykaykay Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 Not really much of a threat It is a threat - sort of. If the county & state contribute to the financing for a new stadium, the NfL will reward them with a Super Bowl. If not, no SB. Kind of a backwards threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Mark Davis will reportedly commit to a Las Vegas move if stadium financing approved this week. This Thursday, Raiders owner Mark Davis will be attending a meeting with Las Vegas officials where they will discuss financing of a new stadium there. http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2016/4/25/11501446/2016-nfl-draft-trade-rumors-paxton-lynch-denver-broncos-jets-bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Correct. Buffalo is never getting a SB. This is not an indictment of Buffalo given I was born and raised there and my best weekend of the year is taking my boys to the game along with we made it up to 18 relatives going together this year. Guys in Tampa, we've had a bunch of SB and these corporate types are not going to Buffalo in February. Not in the Taj Mahal of dome stadiums. Besides for regular guys like us, who cares about a SB in your city. It clogs up traffic, your priced out of anything interesting, and simply not worth it. Buffalo doesn't have the hotels or the other parameters so this lure of a stadium is BS on getting a SB. Bottom line is we'll get a new stadium after the lease, and it will probably be down in the 1st ward, and linked into Pegulas other investments. Makes sense although I would hate not having the OP for tailgating. Well said.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 right? It's basically like Jets/Giants at MetLife I don't know why the Raiders & 49'ers refuse to share Levi's Stadium. I would imagine Oakland has a little brother complex when it comes to the other city by the bay and has no desire to share anything with S.F. Raider fans are a different breed all together which only increases the animosity especially when you factor in the Niners were there first. The Niners probably consider themselves in a league of their own and don't won't little brother messing up their cool new digs anyway. In New Jersey they at least pretend to be New York teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakin Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 I was just in Vegas and my Uber driver was 100% certain the Raiders would be the Vegas Raiders by the end of this decade. So....it's a certainty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 I would imagine Oakland has a little brother complex when it comes to the other city by the bay and has no desire to share anything with S.F. Raider fans are a different breed all together which only increases the animosity especially when you factor in the Niners were there first. The Niners probably consider themselves in a league of their own and don't won't little brother messing up their cool new digs anyway. In New Jersey they at least pretend to be New York teams. That could be it. It's incredibly silly, but it wouldn't surprise me. Sharing Levi's Stadium would be the best and most logical option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 @DailyNewsVinny Viva Las #Raiders: Owner Mark Davis to make commitment to relocate to Las Vegas this week http://www.dailynews.com/sports/20160425/viva-las-raiders-owner-mark-davis-to-make-a-commitment-to-las-vegas-this-week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 @DailyNewsVinny Viva Las #Raiders: Owner Mark Davis to make commitment to relocate to Las Vegas this week http://www.dailynews.com/sports/20160425/viva-las-raiders-owner-mark-davis-to-make-a-commitment-to-las-vegas-this-week WOW!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 That could be it. It's incredibly silly, but it wouldn't surprise me. Sharing Levi's Stadium would be the best and most logical option. Logic, Raiders and a Davis are one and the same? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 @DailyNewsVinny Viva Las #Raiders: Owner Mark Davis to make commitment to relocate to Las Vegas this week http://www.dailynews.com/sports/20160425/viva-las-raiders-owner-mark-davis-to-make-a-commitment-to-las-vegas-this-week WOW!! Not much news in that article. Davis will commit to any city that offers him a 1.3 billion stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Not much news in that article. Davis will commit to any city that offers him a 1.3 billion stadium. Making a commitment to move from Oakland to Vegas. No big deal at all. Sure thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 It is surprising Goodell and the owners are open to Vegas, but if so, and the city will build an incredible stadium for Davis, I don't see why not move there. Every city realizes what dolts they were about two years after they lose a team. Thankfully for the Chargers, they were creative on how they raised funds. The citizens basically have no tax hit as it is hotel tax increases basically for visitors. San Diego gets so many conventions, the corporate traveler pays the hit or specifically his company. I travel,a lot for work, and never ceases to maze me how many other hotel taxes are tacked onto the room rate in some cities. My company pays for it so nt a big deal to me, but it is substantial. Viva Las Raiders. It would be pretty cool to go to a Bills/Raiders game in Vegas. Of course, I would be so hung over by the time I made it to the game on Sunday. My liver hurts just thinking about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Making a commitment to move from Oakland to Vegas. No big deal at all. Sure thing! He has been saying this for months. He was happy to go to LA as well. And San Antonio (recall "http://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/headshots/nfl/players/full/13197.png&w=350&h=254). In his own words..."We don't have a lease right now at the Oakland Coliseum," Davis said. "America, the world is a possibility for the Raider Nation." If San Antone called him up today and said we have complete financing for a new stadium right now, Davis would announce he was moving there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 @DailyNewsVinny Viva Las #Raiders: Owner Mark Davis to make commitment to relocate to Las Vegas this week http://www.dailynews.com/sports/20160425/viva-las-raiders-owner-mark-davis-to-make-a-commitment-to-las-vegas-this-week In Las Vegas, the Raiders envision a home base that would enable them to tap into the furthest reaches of their fan base. Las Vegas would be their primary market, but its elements as one of the most popular destination points in America would be the magnet they use to draw in Raiders fans and season-ticket holders from across the country. Is Las Vegas motorcycle gang friendly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Report: Davis will commit Raiders to Vegas move if stadium is approved It's looking more and more like Las Vegas is the odds-on favorite to land the Raiders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 I want to go to a Football game in Vegas... I would bring a nice Vegas escort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 @SupportLVDome Davis pledges Raiders will contribute $500 million to the stadium project if approved. #DOTHEDOMETHING AP_NFL Raiders owner Mark Davis says he wants to move team to Vegas, willing to spend $500 million http://apne.ws/1ST5ZVJ @timdahlberg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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