Buftex Posted August 22, 2020 Posted August 22, 2020 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said: You think without them kneeling at a football game people would not have realized that kneeling on a guys throat for 9 minutes when he is not a threat is wrong? I think almost everyone would have agreed in 1995 that cop was wrong and should be arrested. I would like them to be treated equally also but they refuse to elect people who enforce the laws equally, just look at Chicago's mayor. See that's the problem. You want to immediately make it an issue of politicians, glossing over the police responsibilty in these situations. Lori Lightfoot has been the mayor of Chicago for a year...did she go in and tell Chicago police to treat minorites worse than they would treat other suspects? Did she start this? Of course not. It has been going on for decades. I hate saying it sometimes, but my late father, a police officer, recognized that there was a fundamental problem with police training goinig all the way back to the early 80's. Honestly, I don't know exactly where Lightfoot stands each point of this complex situation, but I assume she, like others, is for ending police immunity. If you really want to change the situation, that is a good place to start. That is not saying that all police are bad, but it gives us the chance of getting those who are bad, off the force. 11 minutes ago, bilzfancy said: what do you think will happen if a white player knelt during the playing of the Black anthem? Nothing. If somebody says Blue Lives Matter, and somebody responds All Lives Matter, what happens? Edited August 22, 2020 by Buftex
Orlando Buffalo Posted August 22, 2020 Posted August 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Buftex said: See that's the problem. You want to immediately make it an issue of politicians, glossing over the police responsibilty in these situations. Lori Lightfoot has been the mayor of Chicago for a year...did she go in and tell Chicago police to treat minorites worse than they would treat other suspects? Did she start this? Of course not. It has been going on for decades. I hate saying it sometimes, but my late father, a police officer, recognized that there was a fundamental problem with police training goinig all the way back to the early 80's. Honestly, I don't know exactly where Lightfoot stands each point of this complex situation, but I assume she, like others, is for ending police immunity. If you really want to change the situation, that is a good place to start. That is not saying that all police are bad, but it gives us the chance of getting those who are bad, off the force. The fact that you think police training starts at the chief of police is adorable. The mayor has much more to do with way people are treated than the chief of police in every big city. In large cities the police get their marching orders from city hall or governor's office. If you want proof look at the police stand down during so many riots because the cops did not stand down on their own. Also " stop and frisk" was started in NYC by the mayor not the chief. My town would not accept the police acting that way but then again we had our 1st random murder in 6 years this month. 1
BillsFanNC Posted August 22, 2020 Posted August 22, 2020 9 minutes ago, Buftex said: Nothing. ? I'll take incontrovertible proof that liberals are living in an alternate reality for 10 billion Alex. 1 1
Koko78 Posted August 22, 2020 Posted August 22, 2020 32 minutes ago, Buftex said: If somebody says Blue Lives Matter, and somebody responds All Lives Matter, what happens? Agreement is what happens. 1
bilzfancy Posted August 22, 2020 Posted August 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Koko78 said: Agreement is what happens. However, if you don't say black lives matter, you'll get the crap beat out of you 1
Wacka Posted August 22, 2020 Posted August 22, 2020 All ethisbecause George Floyd swallowed some Fentanyl. He was probably dead within a minute from he drags.
3rdnlng Posted August 22, 2020 Posted August 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Buftex said: See that's the problem. You want to immediately make it an issue of politicians, glossing over the police responsibilty in these situations. Lori Lightfoot has been the mayor of Chicago for a year...did she go in and tell Chicago police to treat minorites worse than they would treat other suspects? Did she start this? Of course not. It has been going on for decades. I hate saying it sometimes, but my late father, a police officer, recognized that there was a fundamental problem with police training goinig all the way back to the early 80's. Honestly, I don't know exactly where Lightfoot stands each point of this complex situation, but I assume she, like others, is for ending police immunity. If you really want to change the situation, that is a good place to start. That is not saying that all police are bad, but it gives us the chance of getting those who are bad, off the force. Nothing. If somebody says Blue Lives Matter, and somebody responds All Lives Matter, what happens? They get fired from Goodyear. 1
Unforgiven Posted August 22, 2020 Posted August 22, 2020 3 hours ago, njbuff said: De Blasio has completely destroyed the world's second biggest city singlehandedly with his socialist bvllshit. There is nary a NYer who likes the guy. Period. How did this maniac get power then
Q-baby! Posted August 22, 2020 Posted August 22, 2020 9 minutes ago, Unforgiven said: How did this maniac get power then Beat Hillary in the election.
SectionC3 Posted August 22, 2020 Posted August 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Buftex said: See that's the problem. You want to immediately make it an issue of politicians, glossing over the police responsibilty in these situations. Lori Lightfoot has been the mayor of Chicago for a year...did she go in and tell Chicago police to treat minorites worse than they would treat other suspects? Did she start this? Of course not. It has been going on for decades. I hate saying it sometimes, but my late father, a police officer, recognized that there was a fundamental problem with police training goinig all the way back to the early 80's. Honestly, I don't know exactly where Lightfoot stands each point of this complex situation, but I assume she, like others, is for ending police immunity. If you really want to change the situation, that is a good place to start. That is not saying that all police are bad, but it gives us the chance of getting those who are bad, off the force. Nothing. If somebody says Blue Lives Matter, and somebody responds All Lives Matter, what happens? Community policing would solve a lot of these problems.
Buffalo_Gal Posted August 22, 2020 Posted August 22, 2020 33 minutes ago, Unforgiven said: How did this maniac get power then People do not vote. If someone exciting could whip up a GOTV against the current NYS Democrats, maybe things could change. ?♀️ Only 8.5% of NYC residents voted for him.
Sig1Hunter Posted August 22, 2020 Posted August 22, 2020 (edited) 13 hours ago, Buftex said: It took the Floyd video to convince "99%" that what happened was wrong. If that was an isolated incident, you might have a point. But it isn't an isolated incident. Athletes have been taking a knee for 4 years now, to bring attention to police brutality in their communities. There were countless incidents before this one, and there have been many since. Is it possible that "99%" agree what happened was wrong, was the result of the ongoing attention the kneeling protest brought to the topic? Their intent wasn't to "smear the whole country", it never was. If you feel smeared by it, that is you. It was never to disrespect the military. Many of the guys kneeling have family that serve. Their intent was to bring attention, and put some pressure on the powers that be, to recognize this issue. I'd say they have been very successful with that. But they want equal treatment, not your sympathy. You aren't the center of the universe... This might be the most ignorant post on the topic that I have seen yet. Normal, mature, well adjusted adults don’t need athletes or celebrities engaging in some token behavior to help them decide when something is wrong. But, if that’s what you need, more power to you. 12 hours ago, Buftex said: See that's the problem. You want to immediately make it an issue of politicians, glossing over the police responsibilty in these situations. Lori Lightfoot has been the mayor of Chicago for a year...did she go in and tell Chicago police to treat minorites worse than they would treat other suspects? Did she start this? Of course not. It has been going on for decades. I hate saying it sometimes, but my late father, a police officer, recognized that there was a fundamental problem with police training goinig all the way back to the early 80's. Honestly, I don't know exactly where Lightfoot stands each point of this complex situation, but I assume she, like others, is for ending police immunity. If you really want to change the situation, that is a good place to start. That is not saying that all police are bad, but it gives us the chance of getting those who are bad, off the force. Nothing. If somebody says Blue Lives Matter, and somebody responds All Lives Matter, what happens? Never mind. You broke your own record with this one. Ending qualified immunity? Yeah, great idea brainiac. I’m sure your late father would love to work under the threat of being sued for everything that someone else thought he did was wrong. You do know that qualified immunity doesn’t prevent bad cops from being sued, right? It protects good cops from ridiculous lawsuits and from losing everything they’ve worked their lives for because some crackhead or sovereign citizen wants to sue them for some bull####.If you end qualified immunity, no one with half a brain will want to be a cop. Edited August 22, 2020 by Sig1Hunter 5
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 22, 2020 Posted August 22, 2020 (edited) 11 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said: People do not vote. If someone exciting could whip up a GOTV against the current NYS Democrats, maybe things could change. ?♀️ Only 8.5% of NYC residents voted for him. ...perhaps more precisely, they do vote but never consider policy, performance, etc.....the vote to "get this out of the way"..OR....as with my illustrious relatives, ALWAYS vote for the Dem regardless.....a single Republican vote is blasphemy and treason.....how do the likes of Thurmond, Bob Byrd, Helms, Hollings, Pelosi, Biden, Moonbeam Brown, Big Fredo Cuomo, Maxine, Sheila Jackson Lee, Feinstein, Caper, Nadler et al CONTINUALLY get re-elected or recycled to another political office?....why is the landscape littered with 40+ year career politicians?....any NOT millionaires?......all qualify for millions of Federal pension dollars?....just "doin' the people's business"?......um...er...ok...BTW: note that I cited examples on BOTH SIDES of the aisle.....it's a fungus........... Edited August 22, 2020 by OldTimeAFLGuy 2
RochesterRob Posted August 22, 2020 Posted August 22, 2020 12 hours ago, Q-baby! said: Beat Hillary in the election. So you admit Hillary got beat versus the constant mooing by her that she was robbed? You are getting kicked off the Democrats bandwagon for that little slip.
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 22, 2020 Posted August 22, 2020 Just now, RochesterRob said: So you admit Hillary got beat versus the constant mooing by her that she was robbed? You are getting kicked off the Democrats bandwagon for that little slip. ....well she was "robbed"....why do you think the Dems immediately floated the idea of Electoral College elimination?....been just fine since 1787 but the sore losers cried foul?...as the late great Jim McKay said, "....and the agony of defeat..."....deal with it..........pant suit STILL can't............
Chef Jim Posted August 22, 2020 Posted August 22, 2020 6 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: So you admit Hillary got beat versus the constant mooing by her that she was robbed? You are getting kicked off the Democrats bandwagon for that little slip. He didn’t beat her. She lost.
RochesterRob Posted August 22, 2020 Posted August 22, 2020 8 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: He didn’t beat her. She lost. Just like in baseball, football, hockey, etc. if your opponent loses by one point you still beat them. Of course her losing is the other side of that coin.
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 22, 2020 Posted August 22, 2020 50 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: Just like in baseball, football, hockey, etc. if your opponent loses by one point you still beat them. Of course her losing is the other side of that coin. ...so...puck her, right?........... 1
B-Man Posted August 22, 2020 Author Posted August 22, 2020 Reclaiming Our Culture from the Left Original Article Everyone knows it: the death of George Floyd was just a pretext. The rioters who continue every night to wreak havoc in Portland, and who are poised to engage in new orgies of destruction all over the country don’t know much and care less about Floyd. They’re quite open about engaging in a “revolution” with the goal of destroying the existing order and replacing it with an authoritarian Marxist regime. But what we are seeing today is not new. Its seeds were planted decades ago. Now the question before us, if we want to preserve the United States as a free society,
Q-baby! Posted August 22, 2020 Posted August 22, 2020 1 hour ago, RochesterRob said: So you admit Hillary got beat versus the constant mooing by her that she was robbed? You are getting kicked off the Democrats bandwagon for that little slip. A loss is a loss.
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