dave mcbride Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 And still... held the team to 17 points. That should be good enough for a win every time. They got a little lucky at the end f the first half (smart PI by Gilmore), but they were mostly shredded through the mid 3rd quarter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 They got a little lucky at the end f the first half (smart PI by Gilmore), but they were mostly shredded through the mid 3rd quarter.They were really bad. The Fins had a really good plan and execution. But we were bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 (edited) 14 points before the meaningless cheapy field goal to get to 17...they overall got the job done....poor job of tackling. I cant use words like tourched or shredded when you gave up 14 we'd take it every week Edited November 9, 2015 by CardinalScotts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 And still... held the team to 17 points. That should be good enough for a win every time. The way they played today normally would result in A LOT more points. They were getting GASHED most of the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 I've been thru the analysis phase with this defense.....why the structure doesn't work......why the players can't make the plays offenses are forcing them to make.....but it comes down to this.......this defense is a steaming pile of sh*t compared to what it was last year, what it was supposed to be and what it SHOULD be. THis...absolutely....this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 I've been thru the analysis phase with this defense.....why the structure doesn't work......why the players can't make the plays offenses are forcing them to make.....but it comes down to this.......this defense is a steaming pile of sh*t compared to what it was last year, what it was supposed to be and what it SHOULD be. It's a fine line for Rex. He wants to put in his system, but is stuck with guys from a previous regime. If he believes he's here for the long haul, he needs to put his scheme in, yet find the middle ground where the current guys can still make plays. What you're seeing is the result of that middle of the road approach. I'm guessing there will be a handful of current D starters who won't be back next year, especially at LB. Bradham & Brown are frequently in a position to make plays, but so far haven't. I think that by now we should have learned to filter what Rex says. It was easy to believe that Bills defense would have been better than last year's. But in reality, this is a transition year for the squad. By that metric, I'm not too disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Fong Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 And still... held the team to 17 points. That should be good enough for a win every time. That had as much to do with Miami's ineptitude as anything else. The last drive of the half and the first drive of the second half the defense gave up something like 150 yds. That's just not acceptable and against a good team it's going to cost you games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 It's a fine line for Rex. He wants to put in his system, but is stuck with guys from a previous regime. If he believes he's here for the long haul, he needs to put his scheme in, yet find the middle ground where the current guys can still make plays. What you're seeing is the result of that middle of the road approach. I'm guessing there will be a handful of current D starters who won't be back next year, especially at LB. Bradham & Brown are frequently in a position to make plays, but so far haven't. I think that by now we should have learned to filter what Rex says. It was easy to believe that Bills defense would have been better than last year's. But in reality, this is a transition year for the squad. By that metric, I'm not too disappointed. These guys are USED to new systems. This is their 5th new defensive system in 5 years. Pettine and Schwartz defenses didn't take 8-10 games to not be awful. This defense is awful and what Rex should have done is put these players in position to do what they do best and THEN gradually work his system in rather than flush this season to implement a system that is going to require a bunch of player turnover to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 That had as much to do with Miami's ineptitude as anything else. The last drive of the half and the first drive of the second half the defense gave up something like 150 yds. That's just not acceptable and against a good team it's going to cost you games. The fins had a great game plan. They knew they couldn't just drop back and pass like every team in the league does. That's because our DL and DBs are so good not because we suck. They manufactured 300 yards and going up and down the field without ever throwing downfield. Maybe twice the whole game. They designed some nice misdirection. They called the right play at the right time. They took advantage of our pursuit. They actually did great because of how talented we are not because we suck. But we let them get away with it too much with shoddy tackling and too many penalties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 These guys are USED to new systems. This is their 5th new defensive system in 5 years. Pettine and Schwartz defenses didn't take 8-10 games to not be awful. This defense is awful and what Rex should have done is put these players in position to do what they do best and THEN gradually work his system in rather than flush this season to implement a system that is going to require a bunch of player turnover to work. I just flat out do not understand the concept of having something that is working beautiful........going through half a season seeing that the new system does not generate QB pressure........and not going back to playing to your strength Its scary because other teams in the league are sacking Tanny like crazy......sacking Brady here and there.......and we are getting NO PRESSURE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 29 first downs to our 18 is ridiculous. I'd really like one game where we win the penalty battle. They better be ready for thursday and then monday cause if they aren't we will get embarassed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 I simply think the transition is going to take a little more time than any of us would have liked... This goes back to the question...why transition? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Yeah, I can't believe Rex is calling all these plays that set the linebackers up to wiff on tackles. Face it, Bradham and Brown have been...well, bad. Rex was right. It's an execution issue. And don't give me this bull crap about calling plays to help them succeed. When it's 2 and 16 and you've got the half back dead to rights in the backfield, that's on you, the player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 That had as much to do with Miami's ineptitude as anything else. The last drive of the half and the first drive of the second half the defense gave up something like 150 yds. That's just not acceptable and against a good team it's going to cost you games. miller was 12-44....when they hold the other team down it's because the other team blah blah blah.....great win moving on to the Jets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 The last drive of the half and the first drive of the second half the defense gave up something like 150 yds. That's just not acceptable and against a good team it's going to cost you games. It has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 A stat that really stuck out for me was the number of first downs Miami had. it was pretty close too 30 and that is just ridiculous Whats worse is when you actually break down those first downs. Rushing they had 6 first downs Passing they had 16 first downs By penalty 7 first downs The Bills 13 penalties for 93 yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 (edited) I agree the defense is underperforming. But why? Execution or scheme? Edited November 9, 2015 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 The defense was getting eaten up by screens and dump offs today when they tried blitzing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 I agree the defense is underperforming. But why? Execution or scheme? I just honestly was expecting something different coming out of the bye Marcel? Mario? Hughes picked it up in the 2nd half I didnt expect much from Kyle's replacement because I am just not high on those guys...... Still would have hung onto Red Bryant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 I just flat out do not understand the concept of having something that is working beautiful........going through half a season seeing that the new system does not generate QB pressure........and not going back to playing to your strength Its scary because other teams in the league are sacking Tanny like crazy......sacking Brady here and there.......and we are getting NO PRESSURE The concept is that Schwartz was asked to stay on staff and chose to leave. That means a different defense. The players need to get over it and get their head out of their arse. The overpursuit and lack of discipline on defense is what sucked, not the system. They are not being coached to overpursue and leave themselves with bad angles or get blocked out. Today is what you get when guys aren't doing their job. This goes back to the question...why transition? Because Schwartz left. On his own. You had to hire another D coordinator, ergo a new system. Guys aren't doing their jobs . Not much else to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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