Captain_Quint Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 I'm not saying he is an MVP candidate but the Bills are the #2 rushing team in the league. If he's playing a quarter of the plays and almost all of them are running plays he must be doing something right. Just sayin'. I know McCoy likes him. Take this to the positive thread, Kelly. We're piling on in this one. I watched Felton eating a kit kat bar during the second qtr. Guy just doesnt get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 We just cut what's his name and re-signed Thiggy, so why not cut Felton and re-sign Fred? Too bad he's gone. He's a better blocker than Felton, and that's how the Seahawks are using him this year. With Unger gone, the Seahawks line is a mess and they're using Fred to keep Russell Wilson upright. Felton is completely FUSELESS on this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Quint Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Felton is completely FUSELESS on this team. You mean he blows?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 (edited) You mean he blows?? Technically, it's F'USELESS, as in #$%^ING USELESS, but yes, he blows. Edited November 26, 2015 by Freddie's Dead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Matthew Mulligan and Jerome Felton are both useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Matthew Mulligan and Jerome Felton are both useless. i really don't understand the "blocking" skilled position player at all to be honest. if they aren't going to touch the ball then why not just get a fast offensive lineman that is actually good at blocking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloMatt Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 He lead the way for AP, and his 2,000 yard season. Why not use him more to help your o-line or help in pass block? Its not like we currently have WR's to get on the field. AP doing pretty darn good without him AP doing pretty darn good without him Also he played poorly in NE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 I've asked that same question & i bet he has too !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 i really don't understand the "blocking" skilled position player at all to be honest. if they aren't going to touch the ball then why not just get a fast offensive lineman that is actually good at blocking? That's why I believe Roman went with the two back set of Williams and McCoy on Monday. I hope that continues because there is a whole slew of options that they did not even begin to unravel with that formation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Billieve Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 AP doing pretty darn good without him Also he played poorly in NE. Did you just quote yourself within the original post? Did you just quote yourself within the original post? That's nuts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 That's why I believe Roman went with the two back set of Williams and McCoy on Monday. I hope that continues because there is a whole slew of options that they did not even begin to unravel with that formation. Oh Man! I was listening on the radio when Murph or Kelso said they were lined up behind TT. My ears pricked right the heck up. seems like some great potential out of that set with Mully or Clay on the line! Did you just quote yourself within the original post? That's nuts! !! : ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Why is this a thread? He's one of the best FBs in football. FBs don't typically see the field as much as other positions, and ~ 25% of the snaps is hardly insignificant. If he were making crazy money I might agree, but at $2.3 mil/yr on a team that wants to run the ball I'm not seeing the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Why is this a thread? He's one of the best FBs in football. FBs don't typically see the field as much as other positions, and ~ 25% of the snaps is hardly insignificant. If he were making crazy money I might agree, but at $2.3 mil/yr on a team that wants to run the ball I'm not seeing the problem. because he whiffed so bad on the block at new england. how hard is it to sit back and block? you say he is one of the best? How is he doing in Buffalo? BTW i was stoked he would be great fit with a Roman Offense. I want to see McCoy, Williams and Felton on the field. at least two of those 3 each play. nearly. I demand my ground and pound Offense we were promised! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent 91 Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 I thought McCoy was gonna be our workhorse? So far he hasn't had more than 20 rushing attempts in a game. He should be getting 25-30 a game, especially with young QBs. I still don't see the purpose for trading for a RB we don't use. Is this sarcasm? Last 4 games he toyed with 100 yds. And why would you expect 25-30 carries when it was obvious we were looking to have Williams as the second to the 1/2 punch. Did we really expect 30 carries a game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 i really don't understand the "blocking" skilled position player at all to be honest. if they aren't going to touch the ball then why not just get a fast offensive lineman that is actually good at blocking? I've always wondered that too. This one will really show my age -- back in the O.J. days, the Bills drafted Paul Seymour (dominant tackle at Michigan) 7th overall. They stuck him at TE where he caught 10-20 passes a year (basically one catch per game) and provided, as expected, dominant blocking for O.J. at TE. 2,000 yards for O.J. in 14 games. You had 2 RTs on the field at the same time. In other words, he did the Mulligan/Lee Smith job, but he did it really, really well. I don't get these pure blocking specialist TE/FB types who don't absolutely crush opposing LBs and safeties. Yep, to me they're useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 I've always wondered that too. This one will really show my age -- back in the O.J. days, the Bills drafted Paul Seymour (dominant tackle at Michigan) 7th overall. They stuck him at TE where he caught 10-20 passes a year (basically one catch per game) and provided, as expected, dominant blocking for O.J. at TE. 2,000 yards for O.J. in 14 games. You had 2 RTs on the field at the same time. In other words, he did the Mulligan/Lee Smith job, but he did it really, really well. I don't get these pure blocking specialist TE/FB types who don't absolutely crush opposing LBs and safeties. Yep, to me they're useless. The Bills used a fullback, too, then. In the first game when OJ rushed for 250 yards I think they threw 12 passes the entire game and one of them was by OJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 The Bills used a fullback, too, then. In the first game when OJ rushed for 250 yards I think they threw 12 passes the entire game and one of them was by OJ. Thanks -- I'm glad I'm not alone in remembering the 1973 team ... Braxton played fullback that year, and did so very well. You're implication is correct: it was a different time when you could get away with a great running game and a dozen passes a game. But the point remains -- when you are a complete one dimensional player (and Felton's career: 9th season, 47 rushes, 165 yards, 43 receptions), you had better nail that one dimension. If someone can point out to me a play in which you could have said "great block thrown by Felton" I'd be surprised ... on the other hand, "Felton totally whiffed on that block" sticks out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Thanks -- I'm glad I'm not alone in remembering the 1973 team ... Braxton played fullback that year, and did so very well. You're implication is correct: it was a different time when you could get away with a great running game and a dozen passes a game. But the point remains -- when you are a complete one dimensional player (and Felton's career: 9th season, 47 rushes, 165 yards, 43 receptions), you had better nail that one dimension. If someone can point out to me a play in which you could have said "great block thrown by Felton" I'd be surprised ... on the other hand, "Felton totally whiffed on that block" sticks out. After four games, Rex said that he was playing as well as any fullback in the league he has seen. I heard McCoy say that he really likes Felton. The Bills are rushing pretty well. http://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/sports/football/nfl/bills/2015/10/09/bills-fullback-jerome-felton-thrives-contact/73584718/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PO16FFS Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 He missed 2 blocks that was huge. However I saw another good block to a good run. BUT...Get rid of the bum! His name is irritating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 i really don't understand the "blocking" skilled position player at all to be honest. if they aren't going to touch the ball then why not just get a fast offensive lineman that is actually good at blocking? Exactly why the FB is a dying position in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 (edited) Thanks -- I'm glad I'm not alone in remembering the 1973 team ... Braxton played fullback that year, and did so very well. You're implication is correct: it was a different time when you could get away with a great running game and a dozen passes a game. But the point remains -- when you are a complete one dimensional player (and Felton's career: 9th season, 47 rushes, 165 yards, 43 receptions), you had better nail that one dimension. If someone can point out to me a play in which you could have said "great block thrown by Felton" I'd be surprised ... on the other hand, "Felton totally whiffed on that block" sticks out. Larry Watkins was the main FB in 1973. Braxton only played in 6 games and averaged over 80 rushing yards per game. Edited November 27, 2015 by dave mcbride Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 I know Greg Roman is a coaching throwback in that he's a run-first kind of guy. But did anyone really expect the Bills to run a bunch of two-back sets? Felton on the field for 1 of 4 snaps seems about right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloMatt Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Did you just quote yourself within the original post? That's nuts! Posting outside the box! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 If you look at 'Gamday Scouting reports" by cover1 you can see where and how Felton is being used. http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/183219-gameday-scouting-reports/ By the way the Snap Counts provided by Buffalo News are lacking (in first post in thread) - it fails to include when players are not on roster so some data is skewed. Data is stored in google docs if anyone wanted access to raw data to manipulate. http://bills.buffalonews.com/stats/snap-counts/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 (edited) Larry Watkins was the main FB in 1973. Braxton only played in 6 games and averaged over 80 rushing yards per game. Now there's a name I don't recall ever hearing before, Larry Watkins. Jerome Felton, you are the next Larry Watkins. EDIT: in your dreams. I see that Watkins ran for 1700 yards in his NFL career. Felton? 165. Really, 165 yards in 41 career starts? 4 yards per game? Like I said, when you're this much a one dimensional blocker, you sure as hell better not be whiffing of key blocks ... for some reason folks like to pick on the Lee Smith/Mulligan blocking tight ends but are giving Felton a pass. Felton is the uber Smith/Mulligan. Edited November 29, 2015 by The Frankish Reich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 Positives from the KC game: a Felton sighting! Made a nice catch for about a 15 yard gain, lining up as a TE. Oh, it was called back by a penalty, but still ... his name got mentioned, and in a positive way ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Felton also led the way for McCoy on a sweep to the right side. Or at least that was the play. McCoy cut it back inside the RT, leaving Felton to block some guy who was out of the play. That's McCoy's style -- I'm not complaining about it, it's very effective and sometimes explosive. But that's a big reason why Felton is useless on this team -- he's a lead blocker for a guy who refuses to be led. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloMatt Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Think we over paid for this guy by a lot. Love the avatar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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