dave mcbride Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 (edited) Another case of guy playing because his old coach -- Roman -- is comfortable with him? He is just a terrible RB -- as was A-Train when he played for Jauron's Bills (3.27 yards per carry in 143 lead-footed carries over 2 seasons). He has 15 carries for 19 yards, and appears to run a 5.4 40. Plus he's 28 - I don't know what that is in RB dog years, but it's a lot. What did Bryce Brown do to get exiled from the team? Edited October 12, 2015 by dave mcbride Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 . What did Bryce Brown do to get exiled from the team? Fail to make the HC remember his name... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 12, 2015 Author Share Posted October 12, 2015 Fail to make the HC remember his name... Ha - maybe you're right. Seriously, though, why didn't they go after him instead of Herron? Herron had a bad fumble yesterday too, although the Bills recovered it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Another case of guy playing because his old coach -- Roman -- is comfortable with him? He is just a terrible RB -- as was A-Train when he played for Jauron's Bills (3.27 yards per carry in 143 lead-footed carries over 2 seasons). He has 15 carries for 19 yards, and appears to run a 5.4 40. Plus he's 28 - I don't know what that is in RB dog years, but it's a lot. What did Bryce Brown do to get exiled from the team? What did he ever do to make people think he deserves to be on this team? Â He exiled himself by not taking the job when it was being given right to him, and by not listening to coaches when they try to teach him how to hold onto the football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Another case of guy playing because his old coach -- Roman -- is comfortable with him? He is just a terrible RB -- as was A-Train when he played for Jauron's Bills (3.27 yards per carry in 143 lead-footed carries over 2 seasons). He has 15 carries for 19 yards, and appears to run a 5.4 40. Plus he's 28 - I don't know what that is in RB dog years, but it's a lot. What did Bryce Brown do to get exiled from the team?  Brown?  1) fail to develop ball security as coached by his boss (RB coach Anthony Lynn) 2) fail to play special teams  I don't think Dixon is playing because Roman is comfortable with him. I think he's playing because all the guys ahead of him on the depth chart are hurt, and he performs 1) & 2) above.  Ha - maybe you're right. Seriously, though, why didn't they go after him instead of Herron? Herron had a bad fumble yesterday too, although the Bills recovered it.  Yes, I noticed neither Herron nor Moore were "all that" with ball security. But Lynn probably still has hope he can coach Herron up on that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 12, 2015 Author Share Posted October 12, 2015  Brown?  1) fail to develop ball security as coached by his boss (RB coach Anthony Lynn) 2) fail to play special teams  I don't think Dixon is playing because Roman is comfortable with him. I think he's playing because all the guys ahead of him on the depth chart are hurt, and he performs 1) & 2) above.   Yes, I noticed neither Herron nor Moore were "all that" with ball security. But Lynn probably still has hope he can coach Herron up on that point. I also think that when Dixon is in there, the defense gets a real break. At least Brown is a player that defenses have to account for -- he can beat people and get to the next level. Dixon simply can't. He is a terrible halfback, and I don't even think he can outrun 310 lb. nose tackles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 A-train... Haven't thought of that guy in a while Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 (edited) Brown may prefer to sign elsewhere. We don't know if the Bills reached out to him or not. Whaley said they were open to bringing him back when asked. Brown and his agent may feel that he should wait to get another opportunity as RBs are getting hurt around the league on s weekly basis. He already knows the Bills coaching staff doesn't like how he plays based on their comments. He knows he would only play until Karlos returns which could be any day. He could very well be looking for a fresh start. Â Wouldn't it be ironic if he signed with the Chefs now that Charles is hurt? Edited October 12, 2015 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 12, 2015 Author Share Posted October 12, 2015 (edited) Brown may prefer to sign elsewhere. We don't know if the Bills reached out to him or not. Whaley said they were open to bringing him back when asked. Brown and his agent may feel that he should wait to get another opportunity as RBs are getting hurt around the league on s weekly basis. He already knows the Bills coaching staff doesn't like how he plays based on their comments. He knows he would only play until Karlos returns which could be any day. He could very well be looking for a fresh start. Â Wouldn't it be ironic if he signed with the Chefs now that Charles is hurt? Excellent point - I should have thought of that possibility. Didn't Brown play for Reid in Philly? Â Btw, Freddie has 10 carries for 52 yards (behind an equally poor and possibly worse o-line) and 10 receptions for 103 yards and a TD. How is Dixon better than him?!? And I don't think ST should be the determining factor on who makes the roster. Edited October 12, 2015 by dave mcbride Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Dixon is a fun guy and is above average on special teams...but he is not good enough to be on this team and should never run the ball ever again. I said it when they got rid of Fred: what happens if McCoy gets hurt? We already knew he had a nagging hamstring going into the season. Leaving only 1 capable yet unproven RB (Karlos) behind him who also happens to be a rookie is a bad idea. Fred should have been on this team, especially if they were planning on getting rid of Bryce Brown as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 I don't think Roman harbors any illusions about Boobie's ability as a RB and that's why a guy who was signed on Wednesday took the snap on the second offensive play and had more total carries. Â I also don't think that fumbling is the main issue that's keeping Brown off rosters. I think the guy is plainly football dumb and doesn't listen to coaches. He may have the talent, but he's not reliable or coachable. Add in no contributions to ST, weak in pass protection and too many negative plays. Again, he got pulled for Boobie when he had a wide open chance last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 And I don't think ST should be the determining factor on who makes the roster. It should when you're the #2 or #3 RB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 12, 2015 Author Share Posted October 12, 2015 (edited) It should when you're the #2 or #3 RB. I think the question really is whether you want an actual RB at the #3 spot or a ST middle-of-the-scrum grinder masquerading as a professional RB holding down the position. I'll take the former. In my view, Dixon is a net negative on the offensive side of the ball. He brings nothing to the table because he's so slow, and allows defenses to key more on the real threats, such as they are. Edited October 12, 2015 by dave mcbride Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Billieve Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Another case of guy playing because his old coach -- Roman -- is comfortable with him? He is just a terrible RB -- as was A-Train when he played for Jauron's Bills (3.27 yards per carry in 143 lead-footed carries over 2 seasons). He has 15 carries for 19 yards, and appears to run a 5.4 40. Plus he's 28 - I don't know what that is in RB dog years, but it's a lot. What did Bryce Brown do to get exiled from the team? Â That's such a superficial assessment. Obviously no one is happy Dixon is our starting RB, but Dixon fills 3 roles on this team: Â 3rd string RB 2nd string FB ST BEAST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 12, 2015 Author Share Posted October 12, 2015 Â That's such a superficial assessment. Obviously no one is happy Dixon is our starting RB, but Dixon fills 3 roles on this team: Â 3rd string RB 2nd string FB ST BEAST He's a terrible running back. Is this even up for debate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 (edited) Dixon was either cut or not resigned when Roman was with the 49'ers so I don't think that is the case. I have no idea why he is on this team. I really don't remember any standout special teams play from him. There must be something somebody likes about him. Surely there were better backup RB's available. Bryce Brown has dangerous ball carrying habits and was not coachable. That is why he is gone. Edited October 12, 2015 by bmur66 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 More boom....less boobie plz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 12, 2015 Author Share Posted October 12, 2015 Dixon was either cut or not resigned when Roman was with the 49'ers so I don't think that is the case. I have no idea why he is on this team. I really don't remember any standout special teams play from him. There must be something somebody likes about him. Surely there were better backup RB's available. Bryce Brown has dangerous ball carrying habits and was not coachable. That is why he is gone. He did block a punt last year. That's all I recall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 I think the question really is whether you want an actual RB at the #3 spot or a ST middle-of-the-scrum grinder masquerading as a professional RB holding down the position. I'll take the former. In my view, Dixon is a net negative on the offensive side of the ball. He brings nothing to the table because he's so slow, and allows defenses to key more on the real threats, such as they are. This just in: NO team has quality, veteran "I just play RB and nothing else" depth at the 3rd or 4th RB position. Â That said, Boobie at $1.27 million is an even worse value, given his recent production... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 I noticed on the radio yesterday that Murph would do the play call and call him Boobie, but then Kelso would always call him Anthony Dixon................I thought maybe he didn't feel right saying Boobie, but maybe he's trying to make him the new A Train. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 He's a terrible running back. Is this even up for debate? I don't think there's any debate. He's pretty bad. That's why he's 3rd string/ST. Â But it's stupid to say he's only here because Roman is comfortable with him, as others have pointed out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 He did block a punt last year. That's all I recall.he blocked 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 12, 2015 Author Share Posted October 12, 2015 I don't think there's any debate. He's pretty bad. That's why he's 3rd string/ST. Â But it's stupid to say he's only here because Roman is comfortable with him, as others have pointed out. I'm just wondering. Coaches do have "their guys," after all. Otherwise, why was Anthony Thomas on the Bills? Indeed, Parcells was famous for it -- he wanted someone who knew the system and who he trusted. I don't know if that's the case with Dixon and Roman, but he did play for Roman for 3 seasons. Regardless, he's on the team, and I hope he makes some plays down the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 I think the question really is whether you want an actual RB at the #3 spot or a ST middle-of-the-scrum grinder masquerading as a professional RB holding down the position. I'll take the former. In my view, Dixon is a net negative on the offensive side of the ball. He brings nothing to the table because he's so slow, and allows defenses to key more on the real threats, such as they are. Â Personally, I would prefer a better RB than Boobie at the #3 spot (I'm on the 'why didn't we resign Bryce' train), but we also see the impact that ST can have on the game (e.g., yesterday), and I have no problem with keeping a below-average RB who also happens to be an above-average ST player at the #3 spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 12, 2015 Author Share Posted October 12, 2015 he blocked 2 I remember the Jets game. What was the other one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Dixon was either cut or not resigned when Roman was with the 49'ers so I don't think that is the case. I have no idea why he is on this team. I really don't remember any standout special teams play from him. There must be something somebody likes about him. Surely there were better backup RB's available. Bryce Brown has dangerous ball carrying habits and was not coachable. That is why he is gone.he left in FA. I truly don't think we can make any judgments as to whether Roman valued him or not in SF. OCs have some input but if the GM isn't on board with giving him enough money to keep him then he won't be back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 12, 2015 Author Share Posted October 12, 2015 (edited) Â Personally, I would prefer a better RB than Boobie at the #3 spot (I'm on the 'why didn't we resign Bryce' train), but we also see the impact that ST can have on the game (e.g., yesterday), and I have no problem with keeping a below-average RB who also happens to be an above-average ST player at the #3 spot. The thing is, the Bills kept 4, and they chose to keep a guy (Brown) who a) didn't play; b) was cut after a handful of games; and c) wasn't invited back after a rash of injuries to the position. Doesn't that make you wonder? Edited October 12, 2015 by dave mcbride Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Boobies speed (lack of) combined w/ this O-line so far=bad things man. (And not in the good Bruce Smith sort of way). Â But I'm fine w/ him as RB #3 because he also plays fullback and ST. Need a versatile guy. And, this will hopefully be moot next week when Karlos Williams runs for 150 and 2 TDs/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 I have a question that I figured I would have seen an answer for by now - how and when did Karlos get a concussion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 12, 2015 Author Share Posted October 12, 2015 I have a question that I figured I would have seen an answer for by now - how and when did Karlos get a concussion? excellent question. No idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ (not THAT RJ) Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 I think the fact that no one has signed Bryce Brown indicates that there are plenty of reasons why the Bills didn't re-sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blzrul Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Speaking of dangerous ball-carrying...Tyrod will break our hearts one day. Watching him rush for that TD was soooo exciting but scary as he stuck that ball out in the air for anyone to swipe.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 excellent question. No idea. Â Pretty weird that we wouldn't know. Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 I have a question that I figured I would have seen an answer for by now - how and when did Karlos get a concussion? @MatthewFairburn: Rex Ryan says he's not sure when Karlos Williams got the concussion. It happened at some point during the game but he never came out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Weird. I'm sure they're all different, but Corey Graham gets knocked out cold and he's back the next week. And, they don't even know when Karlos got it, and I heard Howard Simon say today that there's a good chance he's not playing against the Bengals, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Weird. I'm sure they're all different, but Corey Graham gets knocked out cold and he's back the next week. And, they don't even know when Karlos got it, and I heard Howard Simon say today that there's a good chance he's not playing against the Bengals, either. there is really no way Howard would know that, since it's a series of tests that take place this week. It is possible he isn't cleared again, but the likelihood either way isn't known since it's a 8-10 day injury usually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 I don't know why this needs to be re-hashed over and over and over. The 3rd RB needs to play special teams. Boobie is much, much better on ST than Brown. Therefore, Boobie made the team over Brown. What else is there to debate? Let it go... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 I remember the Jets game. What was the other one?miami at home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 I don't know why this needs to be re-hashed over and over and over. The 3rd RB needs to play special teams. Boobie is much, much better on ST than Brown. Therefore, Boobie made the team over Brown. What else is there to debate? Let it go... But, Whaley went rogue... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearwater cadet Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Crap we kept dixon instead of fred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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