shrader Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 And, people are going to trust this? How DOES it work? It's actually fairly straightforward. If people understand powerball or mega millions, they understand this. It's the same exact process but with fewer possible combinations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 It's actually fairly straightforward. If people understand powerball or mega millions, they understand this. It's the same exact process but with fewer possible combinations. I think he knows but keeps asking "How DOES it work?" for his own amusement, like the guy who kept asking about whether Pegula could buy the Bills since he already owned the Sabres. Not my cup of tea, but some people seem to find this gag funny. Most concise explanation I've found of the methodology: All 30 teams have a representative observing the process. There are 14 balls (numbered 1-14) and they pick 4 - and then look up the result in a table. There are 1001 possible combinations randomly assigned to the teams based on their lottery odds - the #1 team has 200 combinations (20%), the #2 135 (13.5%), etc. One of the combinations is invalid - if it comes up, they pick again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 I think he knows but keeps asking "How DOES it work?" for his own amusement, like the guy who kept asking about whether Pegula could buy the Bills since he already owned the Sabres. Not my cup of tea, but some people seem to find this gag funny. Most concise explanation I've found of the methodology: Well, if we could get a straight answer it might end a lot of speculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 I think he knows but keeps asking "How DOES it work?" for his own amusement, like the guy who kept asking about whether Pegula could buy the Bills since he already owned the Sabres. Not my cup of tea, but some people seem to find this gag funny. Most concise explanation I've found of the methodology: What i don't understand is why they bother with the invalid one. Why not give that to the worst team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 I think he knows but keeps asking "How DOES it work?" for his own amusement, like the guy who kept asking about whether Pegula could buy the Bills since he already owned the Sabres. Not my cup of tea, but some people seem to find this gag funny. Most concise explanation I've found of the methodology: And that's why the Bills traded this year's first away for Watkins last year. Because Pegula can't have the first pick in the NHL draft if he already has a first-round pick in the NFL...right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Well, if we could get a straight answer it might end a lot of speculation. I agree with what you're saying, but he's just trolling me. I think I need to get a restraining order. For those not trolling, I asked it one time, but shrader posted in that one minute between my posts, so I asked him again, so he would see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 I agree with what you're saying, but he's just trolling me. I think I need to get a restraining order. For those not trolling, I asked it one time, but shrader posted in that one minute between my posts, so I asked him again, so he would see it. Maybe it's explained at that simulator you guys are doing, but how the hell does this thing work??: Fourteen balls, numbered 1 to 14, are placed in a lottery machine. The machine randomly selects four balls. The resulting four-number series (without regard to selection order) is matched against a chart that shows all possible combinations and the Clubs to which each is assigned. The chart of assigned combinations will be posted at NHL.com on Friday, April 17. The complete process, including the video of the lottery drawing, also will be available on NHL.com after the lottery is conducted. You already posted exactly how the lottery works with an explanation as clear as day but have asked how the lottery works three times since. I hope for your sake that you're trolling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 I think he knows but keeps asking "How DOES it work?" for his own amusement, like the guy who kept asking about whether Pegula could buy the Bills since he already owned the Sabres. Not my cup of tea, but some people seem to find this gag funny. Most concise explanation I've found of the methodology: Thanks for that. I hadn't seen an explanation about the one extra combination before. They must have really liked their rounded off percentages if they had to take that approach. And I don't remember ever seeing this "how DOES it work" joke. That side of the board is too tough to follow with massive stories like the sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 He's trolling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Have Kiper or McShay said who they think is going to win the lottery yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 (edited) There are 14 balls (numbered 1-14) and they pick 4 - and then look up the result in a table. There are 1001 possible combinations randomly assigned to the teams based on their lottery odds - the #1 team has 200 combinations (20%), the #2 135 (13.5%), etc. One of the combinations is invalid - if it comes up, they pick again. How are there only 1001 different ways of picking 4 balls from a group of 14. Can someone explain that math? I can. It sure is one strange system though. Edited April 14, 2015 by 4merper4mer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 How are there only 1001 different ways of picking 4 balls from a group of 14. Can someone explain that math? I can. It sure is one strange system though. Yes, I can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 How are there only 1001 different ways of picking 4 balls from a group of 14. Can someone explain that math? There are 1,001 different charts with every set of draft outcomes within the bounds of the previously determined lottery weightings. The selection of 4 numbered balls will determine which chart is pulled. That chart lists the draft order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 There are 1,001 different charts with every set of draft outcomes within the bounds of the previously determined lottery weightings. The selection of 4 numbered balls will determine which chart is pulled. That chart lists the draft order. Is Vannah White somehow involved in this?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Is Vannah White somehow involved in this?? She already works with some of the dumbest people on the planet on "Redneck Jeopardy." I don't think she'd willingly work with someone even dumber, like Gary Bettman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Buffalo Joe Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Yolanda Vega!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Yolanda Vega!?! This is who we need: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOGdcMaS1Ns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 (edited) There are 1,001 different charts with every set of draft outcomes within the bounds of the previously determined lottery weightings. The selection of 4 numbered balls will determine which chart is pulled. That chart lists the draft order. You answered the wrong question. Yes, I can. Go ahead since no one else volunteered. Edited April 14, 2015 by 4merper4mer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 You answered the wrong question. Do you really want the answer? 14! / (4!x10!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Do you really want the answer? 14! / (4!x10!) Very nice, but there is a way to do it more effectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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