NoSaint Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 what's next....adulterers, substance abuse violators, PED's, wife beaters, child abusers, drunks, car speeders, personal conduct violators, sinners, involuntary manslaughter, convicts. complete waste of time. In the flip side, when do you start taking guys down? Child molesters? Serial killers? Terrorists?!? It's a team honor and I think it's entirely appropriate to say it's not listed unconditionally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 You need to be more clear in what you are alleging. Allegedly, I need to be more clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalftimeAdjustment Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 I'm the biggest OJ supporter in the world - as a player. He was my hero, I wore number 32, kept a scrapbook, had posters on my wall, played TB in HS. I have a question for people on here. Joe Paterno had his statue torn down faster than Hitler, Stalin and Saddam! Does this matter at all in the discussion? My son at a Bills game asked me why OJ was still on the wall, and why Joe Pa who had done ALOT for PSU, had his statue torn down. This whole paradox strikes me as odd. I don't have the answer. Help me out. The (in)action for which Paterno has been criticized, occurred during his tenure as the Penn State football coach. In fact, it was his very position as coach that put him in a position to influence the situation. On the other hand, OJ's actions for which he is condemned all occurred well after his football days were over. Whether people believe that makes any difference in how things should be treated, it is different in timing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 The (in)action for which Paterno has been criticized, occurred during his tenure as the Penn State football coach. In fact, it was his very position as coach that put him in a position to influence the situation. On the other hand, OJ's actions for which he is condemned all occurred well after his football days were over. Whether people believe that makes any difference in how things should be treated, it is different in timing. another point is that these are institutional decisions. not everyone is going to land in the same spot on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 the only reason i would say NO to taking it down is because the media would make a big deal about it. if they could take it down and nobody would care or notice then sure. but the media circus surrounding it would be annoying so might as well just keep it up there and pretend it's not there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted January 5, 2015 Author Share Posted January 5, 2015 the only reason i would say NO to taking it down is because the media would make a big deal about it. if they could take it down and nobody would care or notice then sure. but the media circus surrounding it would be annoying so might as well just keep it up there and pretend it's not there If, as an earlier poster suggested, they just remove it with no prior notice/no fanfare, then I think that would help alleviate some of the media circus. The news would last all of a week; maybe one day on the national circuit. It's a small time investment to do what's right in the long run, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 The poll is holding strong @ 70/30 with almost 200 voting. That's a pretty good sampling. The moral do-gooders seem to be outnumbered badly and rightly so! Glad the majority haven't lost their senses and the sense of what it means to live in America. It just blows my mind that people look @ the name and get bothered by it. He played almost 20 years prior to his personal transgressions. This is PCness run amok to take his name down. Social enginerring @ its worst. Amazing... Change his name to Mr. Treesweet and all the gentle sensibilities won't be hurt? 20 years prior he played for the Bills... WOW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 The poll is holding strong @ 70/30 with almost 200 voting. That's a pretty good sampling. The moral do-gooders seem to be outnumbered badly and rightly so! Glad the majority haven't lost their senses and the sense of what it means to live in America. I would love it if this were a national poll. Anyone voting for OJ to remain would be doing it just to be absurd. Only Bills fans would want to keep paying tribute to OJ. Everyone else in the world recognizes how embarrassing this is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 (edited) I would love it if this were a national poll. Anyone voting for OJ to remain would be doing it just to be absurd. Only Bills fans would want to keep paying tribute to OJ. Everyone else in the world recognizes how embarrassing this is. I think this is a good point. 200 Bills Fans, many in there 40s and 50s, who watched OJ play and he was their hero. A National poll would likely be reversed. Edited January 5, 2015 by moreproblemsthanOrton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 I think this is a good point. 200 Bills Fans, many in there 40s and 50s, who watched OJ play and he was their hero. A National poll would likely be reversed. And it's 200 tbd posters, the most intense bills fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 I would love it if this were a national poll. Anyone voting for OJ to remain would be doing it just to be absurd. Only Bills fans would want to keep paying tribute to OJ. Everyone else in the world recognizes how embarrassing this is. Why? How does the opinion of people who couldn't find Buffalo on a map of New York State bear any relevance, aside from your assumption that it would support your position? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 I think they should have a "free oj" day for one of the games every year. Now, i dont mean like let OJ Simpson out of jail, i actually mean just free orange juice. Would be a brilliant marketing stratgy, and im sure it would help sell out games and bring some really positive attention from the national media. Git r done Russ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maybe Someday Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 This is a tough one. I don’t have really strong feelings on this either way but I ultimately voted No. His name was already on the wall prior to him becoming a murderer…or alleged murdered (wink, wink). No matter what he did/does after his playing career ended, he is still one of the greatest NFL and Buffalo Bills players of all time. Nothing will ever change that therefore I don’t think his name should be taken down from the wall. That being said, I would have no problem if the new ownership decided to take it down or omitted it from a new stadium in the future. How about this compromise, leave his name on the wall but put bars over it? I like that idea best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester43 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 I know this issue gets shut down every time it's brought up. However ... the Bills have a new owner now. I think this is a relevant discussion (civil discussion) that should take place. As much as domestic violence has been at the forefront of so much of the NFL news this season, I can't believe it hasn't come up. This is not a Hall of Fame discussion; it's a Wall of Fame discussion. I personally find it disgusting that his name is still on the Wall of Fame. I think it is disrespectful. I think it is irresponsible. I think it is disgraceful. This is solely about the fact that he was found liable for the deaths of two innocent people; nothing to do with him being in prison now, or committing the crimes that landed him there. He's a murderer and his name shouldn't be on that wall. I hope the Pegulas do what Ralph Wilson failed to do. I'm with you! Sad that our greatest player is a degenerate and a sociopath, but I can't stand seeing his name up there. He is in jail for armed robbery and kidnapping and should have been convicted of murder if not for a crooked jury. Why should we continue to honor him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealityCheck Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 I'm with you! Sad that our greatest player is a degenerate and a sociopath, but I can't stand seeing his name up there. He is in jail for armed robbery and kidnapping and should have been convicted of murder if not for a crooked jury. Why should we continue to honor him? What you are describing is a handicap. I would hate to be the guy to remove any players name off that wall over a disability. OJ has genuine psychological problems and needs our support. To this day I never pass up an opportunity to hurdle luggage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blogic2 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 I grew up as an OJ fan. At one time, he lived at the end of my street. That being said, he has become an embarrassment as a human being after his playing days. I wince at the mention of his name because I remember running around pretending to be OJ as a kid and now wouldn't want to be associated with him at all. I voted "No" because of his on-field accomplishments but would not have an issue if his name was taken down quietly or not included in a future stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 (edited) I would love it if this were a national poll. Anyone voting for OJ to remain would be doing it just to be absurd. Only Bills fans would want to keep paying tribute to OJ. Everyone else in the world recognizes how embarrassing this is. Well, that would be fine Mr. A. if this was a debate about the (National) Hall of Fame, But it's a discussion on OJ continuing to be on the Bills Ring of Fame. So, I'm going to give a little more weight to the Bill's fans opinions that have been posted here, rather than your "moral majority" . Edited January 5, 2015 by B-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BmarvB Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 He's on there for what he did on the field and he was found not guilty of murder. No argument NUFF SAID!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 In related news OJ's Heisman has been found. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddenboy Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 He's on there for what he did on the field and he was found not guilty of murder. No argument Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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