billsfan1959 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: These people should have called the Police and not taken matters into their own hands. When a large, angry mob, with some of them armed, breaks through a gate into a private residential community, they pretty much put the matter into the hands of the residents. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numark3 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 3 hours ago, billsfan1959 said: I am not an NRA kind of guy, but I am a 2A supporter. I just thought his perspective on what happened was a pretty rational take. yup, pretty good analysis. The wife has no business having a gun and that was beyond dangerous and potentially criminal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 16 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: These people should have called the Police and not taken matters into their own hands. Oh, please. They stood their ground to protect their property. You want to run and hide. It doesn't mean everyone should. God bless that couple for standing up to the pigs who were out to destroy their house. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, Crayola64 said: yup, pretty good analysis. The wife has no business having a gun and that was beyond dangerous and potentially criminal. False... ...the problem is criminal trespassing onto private property... Funny how there are no interviews of these alleged "protesters" to defend themselves in this case... ...I suppose the problem with interviewing them is that there is absolutely zero justification for breaking through a gate onto private property... ...which is a subject that the MSM simply has to avoid at all costs... ...bad optics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numark3 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Reality Check said: False... ...the problem is criminal trespassing onto private property... Funny how there are no interviews of these alleged "protesters" to defend themselves in this case... ...I suppose the problem with interviewing them is that there is absolutely zero justification for breaking through a gate onto private property... ...which is a subject that the MSM simply has to avoid at all costs... ...bad optics. people trespassing are wrong... ...If they were threatening, that is wrong too.... ....The wife having a gun is not wrong... ....The wife pointing it at people and waving it around like a complete idiot is wrong.... ...bad optics Edited July 1, 2020 by Crayola64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 1 minute ago, IDBillzFan said: Oh, please. They stood their ground to protect their property. You want to run and hide. It doesn't mean everyone should. God bless that couple for standing up to the pigs who were out to destroy their house. The funny thing is, if that would have been a large, angry, conservative mob, with people armed, going through that gate, he would have been cheering residents on to arm themselves. No intellectual consistency. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, Crayola64 said: ....The wife pointing it at people and waving it around like a complete idiot is wrong.... But also ballsy as schitt. Gotta hand it to her. Hundreds of people tearing down their gate and threatening to kill them, and she stood her ground. God Bless America. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Crayola64 said: people trespassing are wrong... ...If they were threatening, that is wrong too.... ....The wife having a gun is not wrong... ....The wife pointing it at people and waving it around like a complete idiot is wrong.... ...bad optics I disagree. If people want to trespass and surprise people like that on their own property without previous provocation, then you are inviting a response full of adrenaline, and limited to a fight or flight response. As people cheer on lawlessness, you must expect that people will defend themselves in more extreme ways. If you want to decriminalize crime, while adding scrutiny to how victims attempt to defend against those crimes, while living in a climate of increasing chaos, without police protection, then be prepared for a populace that will become increasingly radicalized in defense of them selves and their property. It is a cycle that promotes crime, while also promoting more extreme measure to defend ones self. Is that really an ideal trend that you want to see? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numark3 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 11 minutes ago, Reality Check said: I disagree. If people want to trespass and surprise people like that on their own property without previous provocation, then you are inviting a response full of adrenaline, and limited to a fight or flight response. As people cheer on lawlessness, you must expect that people will defend themselves in more extreme ways. If you want to decriminalize crime, while adding scrutiny to how victims attempt to defend against those crimes, while living in a climate of increasing chaos, without police protection, then be prepared for a populace that will become increasingly radicalized in defense of them selves and their property. It is a cycle that promotes crime, while also promoting more extreme measure to defend ones self. Is that really an ideal trend that you want to see? what does any of this rambling have to do with a lady who is handling a gun like an idiot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 8 hours ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: Right out of the Trump Hand Book for Dummies A white St. Louis lawyer who quickly rose to internet fame this week after he pulled an AR-15 on Black Lives Matter protesters marching near his house told Fox News’ Tucker Carlson on Tuesday night he couldn’t possibly be racist because his Black clients love him. https://www.yahoo.com/news/gun-toting-st-louis-lawyer-021141109.html What's with all the skin color? Once again the left is obsessed with it? Why is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 6 minutes ago, Crayola64 said: what does any of this rambling have to do with a lady who is handling a gun like an idiot? Two separate things can be true at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, Crayola64 said: what does any of this rambling have to do with a lady who is handling a gun like an idiot? I was very confidant that this was going to be your response. Trying to reason with some of you leftist operatives is a complete waste of time. You are not here to have an honest discussion. Have fun playing with everyone else. Off to ignore you go... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numark3 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, GG said: Two separate things can be true at the same time. yes, I’m the one saying that. The woman was wrong to act like an idiot. And the mob was wrong too. he is the one disagreeing with that, read the posts. 2 minutes ago, Reality Check said: I was very confidant that this was going to be your response. Trying to reason with some of you leftist operatives is a complete waste of time. You are not here to have an honest discussion. Have fun playing with everyone else. Off to ignore you go... bye troll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Crayola64 said: yes, I’m the one saying that. The woman was wrong to act like an idiot. And the mob was wrong too. he is the one disagreeing with that, read the posts. bye troll She was right in having the gun. She was wrong in how she handled the gun (but there's no law against that). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numark3 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, GG said: She was right in having the gun. She was wrong in how she handled the gun (but there's no law against that). that’s what I said. Though I am not aware of the laws in that state. Pointing a gun at somewhere can lead to criminal or civil liability in some jurisdictions. But who really cares Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 I think I would apply the analysis that many in the msm and twittesphere apply to law enforcement every day. clearly, the crowd was in no danger. in fact, the couple was in no danger, either. not no one was in danger, so i really don't know what the fuss is. everyone goes home, let's leave it up to a certified counselor to (wo)mansplain to each party involved how this really is an opportunity for growth. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, GG said: She was right in having the gun. She was wrong in how she handled the gun (but there's no law against that). If people want to invade someone else's property in an attempt to intimidate and create fear, then this is the reaction you should expect. When people are threatened at home, you should expect to at least be threatened in equal measure. Apparently, they were effective in discouraging any more encroachment towards their home. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: I think I would apply the analysis that many in the msm and twittesphere apply to law enforcement every day. clearly, the crowd was in no danger. in fact, the couple was in no danger, either. not no one was in danger, so i really don't know what the fuss is. everyone goes home, let's leave it up to a certified counselor to (wo)mansplain to each party involved how this really is an opportunity for growth. Well said. They were all just messing about... ...no harm no foul... ...and the couple gets to go on TV and fix their reputations with ease... ...while the "protesters" get to remain relatively anonymous and do it again. If this is how people want to handle lawlessness in the urban environment, then urban folks may want to consider moving while they can make a few dollars on the deal. There is nothing sustainable with this trend. BTW, your sarcasm was excellent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 WHO COULD HAVE SEEN THIS COMING? Carry Permit Demand Skyrockets in Illinois. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 https://www.yahoo.com/news/horrific-dozens-neighbors-sign-letter-174531911.html ‘Horrific’: Dozens of Neighbors Sign Letter Calling Out St. Louis Gun Couple Residents of an adjoining gated neighborhood say the couple doesn’t represent the area. The nearly three-dozen signers live on Westmoreland Place. That street and the adjoining Portland Place, where the McCloskeys live, make up a historic gated district in St. Louis’s Central West End. “From many walks of life, people choose to make this neighborhood home for many reasons, including the sincerity, empathy, and neighborliness exhibited by the vast majority of those who live here,” the open letter reads. Nevertheless, Noonan said, trespassing is not necessarily grounds to draw a gun. “We don’t condone trespassing,” he said, noting that the neighborhood bylaws had specific language about unauthorized entries. “But if that happens in the form of civil disobedience, it cannot ever be met by threat of violence.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 14 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: “We don’t condone trespassing,” he said, noting that the neighborhood bylaws had specific language about unauthorized entries. “But if that happens in the form of civil disobedience, it cannot ever be met by threat of violence.” So they are threatened with violence and they are going to cower? That’s how and why the mob runs free. They are not confronted. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 48 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: So they are threatened with violence and they are going to cower? That’s how and why the mob runs free. They are not confronted. They're trying to avoid future excursions into their enclave by throwing Ken & Karen under the bus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Chef Jim said: So they are threatened with violence and they are going to cower? That’s how and why the mob runs free. They are not confronted. The couple pointed to damage to a nearby gate as proof that the protest was intent on destroying property. That story has since come under some dispute, after the release of a video that showed the gate intact when the McCloskeys first drew guns on the protesters. The gate was photographed damaged later on Sunday. Photoshopped Sunday ? ? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: The couple pointed to damage to a nearby gate as proof that the protest was intent on destroying property. That story has since come under some dispute, after the release of a video that showed the gate intact when the McCloskeys first drew guns on the protesters. The gate was photographed damaged later on Sunday. Photoshopped Sunday ? ? ? So I ask you. How did they get in and what difference does that make? Do you live in a gated community? If not care to take a gander why those who do have chosen to and pay a lot for that? Edited July 3, 2020 by Chef Jim 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 WALL STREET JOURNAL: The Gun Sales of June: When citizens conclude cops won’t protect them, they buy firearms. Patricia and Mark McCloskey are the couple made instantly famous—or infamous—after a video showed them wielding firearms as they fended off protesters who had trespassed on private property outside their St. Louis home. The Circuit Attorney for St. Louis, Kimberly Gardner, reacted by issuing a statement saying she planned an investigation, and that her office will not tolerate any effort to chill peaceful protest by the “threat of deadly force.” Never mind that Mr. McCloskey says he and his wife feared they’d be killed. As they told the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, “the only thing that kept those mobsters, that crowd, away from us is that we were standing there with guns.” If soaring gun sales are a guide, millions of Americans are with the McCloskeys. This week the FBI announced a record 3.9 million background checks for June, the highest monthly total since the FBI began keeping the statistic in 1998. Adjusting to reflect checks only for gun purchases, the National Shooting Sports Foundation says this works out to 2.2 million, a 136% increase over June 2019. NSSF spokesman Mark Oliva says about 40% of these checks are for first-time gun buyers. This is a warning to the Defund the Police movement about unintended consequences. The more progressives push policies that mean cops won’t be around when people need them, the more they are inviting Americans to exercise their Second Amendment rights to protect themselves. The police aren’t there to protect the public from criminals, they’re there to protect criminals from the public. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 No one sells more guns than Hollywood... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinga Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 9 minutes ago, Reality Check said: No one sells more guns than Hollywood... Black Lives Matter and Antifa might disagree with this.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 24 minutes ago, Cinga said: Black Lives Matter and Antifa might disagree with this.... I agree... ...and that is what makes them hypocrites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 Another police shooting. I mean the cops are afraid because the country is awash in guns. The cops are scared. Guns are fueling all this unrest As four Phoenix police officers surrounded a sedan parked in the driveway of a one-story house on Saturday, at least two of the officers had their guns drawn and pointed at the car. “Hey, stop f------ moving. I will f------ shoot you,” one officer standing near the driver’s window yelled at the car’s lone occupant. Bystanders watching the tense scene unfold from across the street repeatedly shouted, “Don’t shoot him!” Seconds later, a cracking sound could be heard, followed by a sharp exclamation. There was a brief silence. Then, deafening bangs — roughly 10 — rang out in quick succession. Bystander video of the fatal shooting went viral over the weekend, prompting protesters to march for hours through the streets of Phoenix on Sunday night, outraged by another deadly incident amid nationwide demonstrations against police brutality. The protesters called for the release of the officers’ body-cam footage, with at least one city council member also publicly criticizing the Phoenix Police Department’s handling of the incident, the Arizona Republic reported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdutton Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 22 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Another police shooting. I mean the cops are afraid because the country is awash in guns. The cops are scared. Guns are fueling all this unrest I think you misspelled 'The media'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unforgiven Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Another police shooting. I mean the cops are afraid because the country is awash in guns. The cops are scared. Guns are fueling all this unrest As four Phoenix police officers surrounded a sedan parked in the driveway of a one-story house on Saturday, at least two of the officers had their guns drawn and pointed at the car. “Hey, stop f------ moving. I will f------ shoot you,” one officer standing near the driver’s window yelled at the car’s lone occupant. Bystanders watching the tense scene unfold from across the street repeatedly shouted, “Don’t shoot him!” Seconds later, a cracking sound could be heard, followed by a sharp exclamation. There was a brief silence. Then, deafening bangs — roughly 10 — rang out in quick succession. Bystander video of the fatal shooting went viral over the weekend, prompting protesters to march for hours through the streets of Phoenix on Sunday night, outraged by another deadly incident amid nationwide demonstrations against police brutality. The protesters called for the release of the officers’ body-cam footage, with at least one city council member also publicly criticizing the Phoenix Police Department’s handling of the incident, the Arizona Republic reported. https://abcnews.go.com/US/children-ages-14-killed-gun-violence-mars-holiday/story?id=71621109 https://www.cbs46.com/news/14-people-shot-at-overnight-atlanta-party/article_b3ffd728-bec9-11ea-82bb-237707dedae1.html https://www.cbs46.com/news/reward-for-info-on-shooting-death-of-8-year-old-during-violent-night-in-atlanta/article_3de6674c-be41-11ea-8e33-2b7eacb8bee8.html https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2020/07/06/at-least-73-people-shot-13-of-them-killed-in-4th-of-july-weekend-violence-since-late-friday/ Hey, how about all this you idiot, fine right 73 people shot. 13 dead. in a 2 day stretch. Something tells me no cops or white people were involved, just a hunch. Edited July 6, 2020 by Unforgiven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinga Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 39 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Another police shooting. I mean the cops are afraid because the country is awash in guns. The cops are scared. Guns are fueling all this unrest As four Phoenix police officers surrounded a sedan parked in the driveway of a one-story house on Saturday, at least two of the officers had their guns drawn and pointed at the car. “Hey, stop f------ moving. I will f------ shoot you,” one officer standing near the driver’s window yelled at the car’s lone occupant. Bystanders watching the tense scene unfold from across the street repeatedly shouted, “Don’t shoot him!” Seconds later, a cracking sound could be heard, followed by a sharp exclamation. There was a brief silence. Then, deafening bangs — roughly 10 — rang out in quick succession. Bystander video of the fatal shooting went viral over the weekend, prompting protesters to march for hours through the streets of Phoenix on Sunday night, outraged by another deadly incident amid nationwide demonstrations against police brutality. The protesters called for the release of the officers’ body-cam footage, with at least one city council member also publicly criticizing the Phoenix Police Department’s handling of the incident, the Arizona Republic reported. Didn't you just post something in another thread praising the Phoenix mayor? What happened between then and now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 51 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Another police shooting. I mean the cops are afraid because the country is awash in guns. The cops are scared. Guns are fueling all this unrest As four Phoenix police officers surrounded a sedan parked in the driveway of a one-story house on Saturday, at least two of the officers had their guns drawn and pointed at the car. “Hey, stop f------ moving. I will f------ shoot you,” one officer standing near the driver’s window yelled at the car’s lone occupant. Bystanders watching the tense scene unfold from across the street repeatedly shouted, “Don’t shoot him!” Seconds later, a cracking sound could be heard, followed by a sharp exclamation. There was a brief silence. Then, deafening bangs — roughly 10 — rang out in quick succession. Bystander video of the fatal shooting went viral over the weekend, prompting protesters to march for hours through the streets of Phoenix on Sunday night, outraged by another deadly incident amid nationwide demonstrations against police brutality. The protesters called for the release of the officers’ body-cam footage, with at least one city council member also publicly criticizing the Phoenix Police Department’s handling of the incident, the Arizona Republic reported. We don't know yet why police opened fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 33 minutes ago, keepthefaith said: We don't know yet why police opened fire. That doesn't matter to a liberal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 6 hours ago, keepthefaith said: We don't know yet why police opened fire. The cops were afraid he had a gun 6 hours ago, Cinga said: Didn't you just post something in another thread praising the Phoenix mayor? What happened between then and now? What’s the point of your question? 6 hours ago, Unforgiven said: https://abcnews.go.com/US/children-ages-14-killed-gun-violence-mars-holiday/story?id=71621109 https://www.cbs46.com/news/14-people-shot-at-overnight-atlanta-party/article_b3ffd728-bec9-11ea-82bb-237707dedae1.html https://www.cbs46.com/news/reward-for-info-on-shooting-death-of-8-year-old-during-violent-night-in-atlanta/article_3de6674c-be41-11ea-8e33-2b7eacb8bee8.html https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2020/07/06/at-least-73-people-shot-13-of-them-killed-in-4th-of-july-weekend-violence-since-late-friday/ Hey, how about all this you idiot, fine right 73 people shot. 13 dead. in a 2 day stretch. Something tells me no cops or white people were involved, just a hunch. Yes, guns are causing all sorts of problems. I agree with you 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 6 hours ago, B-Man said: That doesn't matter to a liberal. Where was the good guy w a gun? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 6 hours ago, keepthefaith said: We don't know yet why police opened fire. 6 hours ago, B-Man said: That doesn't matter to a liberal. Let's see, what would be a repetitive answer that doesn't address the actual reply 1 minute ago, BillStime said: Where was the good guy w a gun? There it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, B-Man said: Let's see, what would be a repetitive answer that doesn't address the actual reply There it is. But where was the good guy w a gun? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, BillStime said: But where was the good guy w a gun? LOL..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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