papazoid Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 “The extra point is almost automatic,” Goodell said. “I believe we had five missed extra points this year out of 1,200 some odd (1,256-for-1,261, to be precise). So it’s a very small fraction of the play, and you want to add excitement with every play. There’s one proposal in particular that I’ve heard about. It’s automatic that you get seven points when you score a touchdown, but you could potentially go for an eighth point, either by running or passing the ball, so if you fail, you go back to six.” http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/01/20/roger-goodell-nfl-will-explore-eliminating-the-extra-point/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pondslider Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 (edited) Seems unnecessarily complicated for something that adds nothing to the game. Edited January 21, 2014 by Pondslider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Get rid of that and the kickoff and you'd eliminate about 20% of downtime commercials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 (edited) Get rid of that and the kickoff and you'd eliminate about 20% of downtime commercials. This x1000000000. Of all the sports, nfl is by far the worst w commercials. One drive: Team x receives the ball. Commercial. Team x scores. Commercial. Team x kicks off. Commercial before team y starts. Sprinkle an occasional injury timeout or regular timeout and you could very well have 4-5 commercials within the duration of a team's single possession, with the drive itself only taking 2-3 minutes. Its mind-numbingly bad. Edited January 21, 2014 by bobobonators Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Seems unnecessarily complicated for something that adds nothing to the game. What's complicated and what adds nothing to the game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 I think it's the stupidest thing in football............Can we then get rid of the catcher drops the third strike, so you can run to first base in baseball rule? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Because games never come down to making the extra point. Has Goodell even seen a football game? Ever? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pondslider Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 (edited) What's complicated and what adds nothing to the game? Because you score a TD and then you instead of having 6 points you have 7 but then you go for the 8th and miss and it goes back to 6. All to basically have what you have now where you score a TD worth 6 points and you have the choice of going for 7 or 8. If we assume that the premise that the PAT is "automatic" is correct then awarding 7 points for a TD doesn't change the strategy of going for the eighth point or not whatsoever. It doesn't even change the outcome because you don't keep the 7 points if you fail to convert for the 8th you go down to 6. So, you're right back where you started, but now you've added a play that can actually deduct a point from the scoreboard. Why bother changing anything at all other than to eliminate kicking from the game? Edited January 21, 2014 by Pondslider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Why don't they just move the xtra point back 20-25 yards?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Talk about fixing something that ain't broken. I love how in Goodell's video he says when they look at rules the first thing they think about is safety. It's always about player safety. He is a marketeer after all. It's always about player safety, except lets have more Thursday Night games where the guys play on 3 days rest and extend the season to 18 games. Leave it alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Because you score a TD and then you instead of having 6 points you have 7 but then you go for the 8th and miss and it goes back to 6. All to basically have what you have now where you score a TD worth 6 points and you have the choice of going for 7 or 8. If we assume that the premise that the PAT is "automatic" is correct then awarding 7 points for a TD doesn't change the strategy of going for the eighth point or not whatsoever. It doesn't even change the outcome because you don't keep the 7 points if you fail to convert for the 8th you go down to 6. So, you're right back where you started, but now you've added a play that can actually deduct a point from the scoreboard. Why bother changing anything at all other than to eliminate kicking from the game? The thing that's changed is a useless play being eliminated from the game, which means: No risking players unnecessarily on a meaningless play and no media break/extra commercials before the kickoff. The PAT is the absolutely most useless "tradition" in football. There's just no point to it besides a media break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 (edited) No risking players unnecessarily on a meaningless play and no media break/extra commercials before the kickoff. There is no way in hadees there will be less commercial breaks. If anything there will be more. Goodell is also suggesting reviewing helmet to helmet and defenseless receiver hits. I can hear it now, "we'll be back after the refs review this helmet to helmet hit. <break> Drink more Budwieser .. Buy a Chevrolet .. Drink more Coors. Back to game. Still haven't decided yet as we watch the hit 4 more times in slow motion followed by "ruling on the field stands". TIVO is a football fans best friend. Edited January 21, 2014 by reddogblitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 This x1000000000. Of all the sports, nfl is by far the worst w commercials. One drive: Team x receives the ball. Commercial. Team x scores. Commercial. Team x kicks off. Commercial before team y starts. Sprinkle an occasional injury timeout or regular timeout and you could very well have 4-5 commercials within the duration of a team's single possession, with the drive itself only taking 2-3 minutes. Its mind-numbingly bad. Amen. I also hated it when they decided to run the play clock more often, even when a player goes out of bounds. The reasoning being because some fans complained that football games were too slow. So this was there way of "speeding" the game up. You want to speed the game up, cut back on the commercials! Talk about fixing something that ain't broken. I love how in Goodell's video he says when they look at rules the first thing they think about is safety. It's always about player safety. He is a marketeer after all. It's always about player safety, except lets have more Thursday Night games where the guys play on 3 days rest and extend the season to 18 games. Leave it alone. If Goodell is really concerned about player safety, then go to college rules. Where a player can be down without even being touched. That will cut down on injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 No way there are less commercials fellas ....there will only be more as the rights fees keep getting bigger and bigger. Now, I can see one 4 minute block after the TD instead of two minutes, extra point, two minutes....but certainly no less of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewildrabbit Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 (edited) So do something so the extra point kick isn't so almost automatic. Moving the spot for the extra point further back would allow the chance to get more blocks. Did I mention that I love blocked kicks... Fandemonium: Tell it to Fred Smerlas who blocked a FG in a 9-6 OT win in 1986 against the Jets in a torrential 40 degree downpour. That win allowed the Bills to be the first ever NFL team to win the division after only 12 games. http://books.google....emonium&f=false Edited January 22, 2014 by FeartheLosing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 (edited) Yeah, no way they are gonna cut commercial times. Goodell was handed this outrageously successful league, but he thinks he has to "improve" it with his constant meddling. It's his ego...he wants to stay in the public eye, so even when things are going smoothly, he has to fiddle around. He is like the rich kid who has some expensive toy, and wants everyone to know it. It's America's favorite sport, and he wants you all to know, it's under his control. I really hope he doesn't get into politics... Edited January 21, 2014 by Marauder'sMicro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhg Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 He says the extra point is almost automatic. Key word "almost". Just leave it alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladiebla Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Seems unnecessarily complicated for something that adds nothing to the game. It does however add something to the game, in the form of a choice between going for two or one point conversions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsBytheBay Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 This x1000000000. Of all the sports, nfl is by far the worst w commercials. One drive: Team x receives the ball. Commercial. Team x scores. Commercial. Team x kicks off. Commercial before team y starts. Sprinkle an occasional injury timeout or regular timeout and you could very well have 4-5 commercials within the duration of a team's single possession, with the drive itself only taking 2-3 minutes. Its mind-numbingly bad. or the commercial breaks, that their not going to do away with, will occur more often during drives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted January 21, 2014 Author Share Posted January 21, 2014 (edited) The high success rate ( 99.6% ) coupled with the injury risk outweighs the very slim drama of a possible miss. Far more significant is the removal from the game of the potential surprise two-point attempt from placekick formation. But that also happens very rarely. There's also another benefit to dumping the extra point. The ensuing TV timeout would give the replay official a little extra time to determine whether a full review of the touchdown is needed. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/01/21/eliminating-extra-point-makes-sense/ Edited January 21, 2014 by papazoid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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