papazoid Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 would you move up from #9 to #1 or #2 if the price was: 2 firsts and a second ? 2014 - 1st round 2014 - 2nd round 2015 - 1st round ( i know washington paid 3 firsts and a second, but i don't see that happenning this year) http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10238006/houston-texans-owner-bob-mcnair-open-trading-no-1-pick http://gamedayr.com/sports/st-louis-rams-trade-no-2-pick-2014-nfl-draft-93241/# Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 St Louis trading this pick would be freaking amazing. RGIII could be the best thing to ever happen to the Rams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 This seems like a weak draft at the top. Maybe good for QB's, maybe Clowney (head case), but nothing else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 The Houston rumor is just an offhand comment. There's no way they trade that pick. They're takinjg Bridgewater and it's a no-brainer type pick. Tha Rams, on the other hand-- could definitely see that. Someone will want to lea-pfrog Jax to get a QB. I could see a swap between the Browns at 4 and the Rams at 2, with the Rams picking up some picks (similar to the Giants/Chargers trade involving Eli and Rivers, if I am recalling that correctly). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 The Houston rumor is just an offhand comment. There's no way they trade that pick. They're takinjg Bridgewater and it's a no-brainer type pick. Tha Rams, on the other hand-- could definitely see that. Someone will want to lea-pfrog Jax to get a QB. I could see a swap between the Browns at 4 and the Rams at 2, with the Rams picking up some picks (similar to the Giants/Chargers trade involving Eli and Rivers, if I am recalling that correctly). I agree with all of that. Would you trade Byrd and #9 to move up to #4 if St. Louis and the Browns swapped? I know that Clowney is not a huge need but let's remember the kind of talent that he is. Just throwing it out there for fun... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRT88 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 why trade 3 picks for the top pick when we don't need a QB? I'd try to trade back from 9 and get another 2nd round pick and try to use three top 64 picks to fill 3 holes. Not pick one guy and lose 3 chances to fill holes. We need to improve the OG position, we need to get a WLB and LB depth, a big play TE would be nice a big WR would help. I rather be able to address 3 of those this year than get the #1 pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 If true, Houston doesn't want Bridgewater. They may take Manziel at 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 why trade 3 picks for the top pick when we don't need a QB? I'd try to trade back from 9 and get another 2nd round pick and try to use three top 64 picks to fill 3 holes. Not pick one guy and lose 3 chances to fill holes. We need to improve the OG position, we need to get a WLB and LB depth, a big play TE would be nice a big WR would help. I rather be able to address 3 of those this year than get the #1 pick. Agreed. You can't just give up on EJ with basically half a season. If he really is the guy ( I pray so) then I'd rather have one trade back and get four guys in the first three rounds as that is where the talent is to start or provide excellent depth next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsidethebox Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Why would Houston need a Qb? What about Schaub? Did he have a bad year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckinny Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Of course the year after we select our "Franchise QB" there is a plethra of good QB's in the draft and people wanting to move out of the early spots! FML! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Why would Houston need a Qb? What about Schaub? Did he have a bad year? 73.0 QB rating (for reference, EJ had a 77.7 rating). Schaub was looking a lot like Jake Delhomme toward the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 I agree with all of that. Would you trade Byrd and #9 to move up to #4 if St. Louis and the Browns swapped? I know that Clowney is not a huge need but let's remember the kind of talent that he is. Just throwing it out there for fun... I would jump at that (assuming the guy we want is there). using Byrd to trade up is a great idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckinny Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 I would jump at that (assuming the guy we want is there). using Byrd to trade up is a great idea. but wouldn't we have to sign him, ultimately making him the highest paid safety, and then trade him. Not sure alot of teams would take that contract on a trade for a pick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 (edited) but wouldn't we have to sign him, ultimately making him the highest paid safety, and then trade him. Not sure alot of teams would take that contract on a trade for a pick? If St. Louis had a chance to get a Pro Bowl saftey plus the OL that they are looking for I think that they might. You could just tag him and trade him and let them work out the extension. Edited January 3, 2014 by Kirby Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 but wouldn't we have to sign him, ultimately making him the highest paid safety, and then trade him. Not sure alot of teams would take that contract on a trade for a pick? It would have to be a pre-draft deal. Byrd would have to work out a long term deal with the rams(woth our permission) and then we would tag, trade him, and he'd immediately restructure to the big deal he made. Highly unlikely, as it would mean the bills brass would have to be really forward thinking and probably need to know exactly who they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 would you move up from #9 to #1 or #2 if the price was: 2 firsts and a second ? 2014 - 1st round 2014 - 2nd round 2015 - 1st round No. If it was next year, and Winston was declaring, in a heartbeat. If EJ doesn't pan out this year, we'll probably be sniffing the top ten again and might have a shot at that top spot anyway. I hope EJ succeeds, but if not, I hope he is Colts two years ago bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuklz2594 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 this rumor happens every year. every team wants to trade down for more pick.s no way we trade up for anybody this year. period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 No way do the Bills give up picks to move up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 No way do the Bills give up picks to move up. I wouldn't want them to. They should sit on their pick and see who's available when they pick and what other teams might offer them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted January 4, 2014 Author Share Posted January 4, 2014 there is recent history between the Bills & Rams.... the Rams moved up from No. 16 to No. 8 overall to grab the former West Virginia wide receiver Tavon Austin. The Rams sent the No. 16 (EJ Manuel), No. 46 (Kiko Alonso), No. 78 (Marquise Goodwin) and No. 222 (Chris Gragg) in exchange for Austin and the Bills third-round pick -- No. 71 (TJ McDonald). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny33 Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Yes. I would trade up for Bridgewater in a second. Why would Houston need a Qb? What about Schaub? Did he have a bad year? Do you follow the NFL? Schaub didn't play for most of the middle of the season, and was replaced by the mediocre Case Keenum. Schaub throw pick six after pick six, leading to massive fan discontent and burnings of his jersey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckinny Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 there is recent history between the Bills & Rams.... the Rams moved up from No. 16 to No. 8 overall to grab the former West Virginia wide receiver Tavon Austin. The Rams sent the No. 16 (EJ Manuel), No. 46 (Kiko Alonso), No. 78 (Marquise Goodwin) and No. 222 (Chris Gragg) in exchange for Austin and the Bills third-round pick -- No. 71 (TJ McDonald). SO they would be looking to fleece us in a new deal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayman Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Hey I say we go aggressive. If the QBs go early and we can't move up for a reasonable bargain then fine...take the best skill player available. But if we have a shot to land a good QB prospect we had better take it. Take it now and forever until we have at least consistently average QB play (hint: we don't have that now and we have no signs that we will ever have it w/ EJ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 The cost to move up like Wash did is too high. I would take best avail at 9 or trade down again if its a deal we can't refuse. Thats how we picked up Kiko last draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Moving up will not be on the list of options for the Bills. We won't give away any picks, present or future, for anyone in the first round. Too much talent across the board in Round 1 for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayman Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Moving up will not be on the list of options for the Bills. We won't give away any picks, present or future, for anyone in the first round. Too much talent across the board in Round 1 for that. I would love to have 2 1st round picks and nab that TE and one of the better WRs. Trade Byrd, maybe our 2, and move back and end up with 2 middle-round picks...that would be awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 No way do the Bills give up picks to move up. True, but they (Hou, Stl) may be interested in trading their #1 for Byrd. Hmmm.... Buffalo with 2 top 10 picks would be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 True, but they (Hou, Stl) may be interested in trading their #1 for Byrd. Hmmm.... Buffalo with 2 top 10 picks would be interesting. I could see STL trading #2 overall for #9 and Byrd. Safety is one of their needs. I don't think that the Bills are looking to go up but it's an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 why trade 3 picks for the top pick when we don't need a QB? I'd try to trade back from 9 and get another 2nd round pick and try to use three top 64 picks to fill 3 holes. Not pick one guy and lose 3 chances to fill holes. We need to improve the OG position, we need to get a WLB and LB depth, a big play TE would be nice a big WR would help. I rather be able to address 3 of those this year than get the #1 pick. YES! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swnybillsfan Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 The cost to move up like Wash did is too high. I would take best avail at 9 or trade down again if its a deal we can't refuse. Thats how we picked up Kiko last draft. this is where i am. there are going to be some really good options at #9, and after last year's draft and free agency pick ups, i feel pretty good about the people selecting players to add to this team. and if there is a possible trade down, that would seemingly be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 I would trade w/ HOU to draft Bridgewater. That's about it. The Bills would seem pretty set for awhile @ QB with EJM and T.Bridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Bills need to trade down not up. This off-season (FA and Draft) needs two LB's, two maybe three OL, a TE, a RB, and a WR. There is not one player in the top 10 worth the #1 spot. #9 will be as good as #25. Move down twice in this draft to get an extra second and third. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 I wouldn't want them to. They should sit on their pick and see who's available when they pick and what other teams might offer them. yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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