MarkKelso'sHelmet Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 (edited) Thank you, Jack. A very interesting comment here. Let's review: 1) Story comes out that someone falls off upper deck. 2) Everyone assumes guy who fell must be drunk a**hole. 3) Without any video evidence available at the time, I suggest an alternate scenario where someone could have simply lost their balance. 4) You jump on me for being "contrarian" as if I'm spoiling everyone's fun by not going along with the mob mentality. Does someone not agreeing with the crowd really upset you that much? PTR you conveniently left out the part where you're wrong. sometimes if it looks like a spade, it's a spade. it's great to be a contrarian when common opinion is flawed (which it often is). but you don't seem to get my point -- you take the outsider's view just for the sake of having an outsider's opinion. there are drunk people at sporting events that do stupid things -- why did you think to object to that MOB MENTALITY? Edited November 18, 2013 by MarkKelso'sHelmet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delete This Account Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Pictures of the banned person, posted in the security office. Each game security would look it over to remember it. If spotted, verify identity and remove person if it is him. aren't you on that list? ... jw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notwoz Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Want to keep this guy and people like him out? Build a new stadium with only 62,500 seats and raise the ticket prices 35%. Bingo! Casinos have had facial recognition via camera at entrances working extremely well for years. They even deal with disguises. Pretty impressive stuff. The technology certainly exists if the Bills felt it was worthwhile to implement it. If the Bills had this technology, which would ban anyone who has been kicked out of a game for being drunk as a pig, they probably would be lucky to sell 50 percent of their seats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkAF43 Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Week after week I'm more disappointed by some of the idiots you see walking around before the game that were so drunk they had no business getting through security but somehow they do. It's a disturbing trend. Also, has anyone noticed the inconsistencies as to what you can and can't bring into the stadium? yesterday, in the clear plastic bag my fiancee had a gortex coat, with a water bottle inside she forgot while tailgating, had to remove it, but some woman with the clear bag had cans of diet pepsi and hamburgers in her clear bag and was allowed in with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Bingo! If the Bills had this technology, which would ban anyone who has been kicked out of a game for being drunk as a pig, they probably would be lucky to sell 50 percent of their seats. All the faller has to do is get that avatar of yours and he's in like Flynn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notwoz Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 All the faller has to do is get that avatar of yours and he's in like Flynn. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badasss Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 So ... one can be charged with manslaughter for hurting another person? And attempting suicide is a criminal offense? This place teaches me new stuff every day!!! Attempting suicide can be a criminal offense if it causes physical harm to orher people. I dont think that's what the faller was trying to do in this instance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badasss Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 i would nominate the guy for a darwin award...but it appears he's ok. i hope the person he fell on is ok. it appears the person who fell hurt their shoulder, while the person landed on, had a head injury. http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/bills/2013/11/17/buffalo-bills-ralph-wilson-stadium-fan-falls-third-deck/3622855/ Because he did not die from the fall, he is what the Darwin Awards committee would classify as an "At-Risk Survivor." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 you conveniently left out the part where you're wrong. sometimes if it looks like a spade, it's a spade. it's great to be a contrarian when common opinion is flawed (which it often is). but you don't seem to get my point -- you take the outsider's view just for the sake of having an outsider's opinion. there are drunk people at sporting events that do stupid things -- why did you think to object to that MOB MENTALITY? I made that comment BEFORE the video came out. No one knew the circumstances of the fall. Just a lot of conjecture that the guy was drunk. And I didn't object to anything. I just brought up the possibility that the guy who fell did so by accident. You want me to say I was wrong...I WAS WRONG!!!! I made a comment before the facts came out and it turned out I was wrong. Happy now?? PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 @WGRZ A source tells WGRZ the name of the fan who fell during yesterday's #Bills game is 29-year-old Erie County resident Robert Hopkins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offside Number 76 Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 (edited) Guys, none of you are perfect, and none of you have never made a mistake. I really hope they are both ok. These guys are human beings. How you can be so flippant about someone who possibly could have lost their legs? I'll say a prayer for both guys. One may have been stupid drinking too much or not. That is a leap. What if it were your son who was drunk as a dingbat at 19 yrs old? You'd be fine with him as a paraplegic for the rest of his life? If you answer honestly, you know you would not be ok with it. I'd love to hear from a guy who would be really happy with his boy being in a wheelchair for the rest of his life even if he was stupid. If you respond your fine with it, your lying! Of course we feel even worse for someone in the second level who might have been the recipient, but don't be so flippent on this issue. It is very superficial. I hope they are both ok, and if the guy abive was drunk, and we don't know that, I hope he learned a lesson and is ok. I was really disgusted by some of these responses. I guess I'm wrong for actually thinking this through. It doesn't mean I don't have a problem with consequences, but a paraplegic? Best post in the thread, even (and maybe even especially) after the video came out. Edited November 19, 2013 by Offsides Number 76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 @WGRZ A source tells WGRZ the name of the fan who fell during yesterday's #Bills game is 29-year-old Erie County resident Robert Hopkins. Now that the name is out there, should be soon we get the Facebook page and can start making fun of his music and movie likes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Now that the name is out there, should be soon we get the Facebook page and can start making fun of his music and movie likes. Can't. Wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoto Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 No short of Idiots in the 300 section at a Bill's game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devldog131 Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 (edited) I'm sure most of us have tried to improve our seats at a sporting event by sneaking down to a lower section. The difference is, however, that most of us would have tried ramps, stairs and concourses. Guess this guy just didn't have that kinda time... Edited November 19, 2013 by devldog131 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JÂy RÛßeÒ Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 I asked my Bills guy how they enforce stadium bans. Here's his response: When someone is ejected or arrested they are banned from our premises. An ejected person has to take a test in order to come back. A person who was arrested is not allowed back at all. It is a risk that some are willing to take but if caught the penalty is really not worth it. The police just recently arrested a person who was ejected from stadium and told that he could not come back until he took the test. He came back to a game without taking the test. He was arrested on Friday. Now instead of taking a $65.00 test he will spend hundreds of dollars in lawyer’s fees and court time. There is no real fool proof way as of right now but right now we are trying to make the necessary steps to improve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Want to keep this guy and people like him out? Build a new stadium with only 62,500 seats and raise the ticket prices 35%. no need to raise the prices even if you do that. There will be less of a secondary market, where I assume most of the drunken idiots come from. Another thing would be to stop selling crappy beer in the stadium, raise the prices a dollar more and sell good beer like Blue Moon, or local micro-brews. People rarely over indulge in those. Can't stop the stadium parking lot drunks, but perhaps better screening at the entrances for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester43 Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 I asked my Bills guy how they enforce stadium bans. Here's his response: i still don't quite get it. if i am ejected and i come back 3 weeks later and have a ticket to a seat in a different part of the stadium, how is anyone going to know i am there (assuming i just mind my own business)? do they expect the ticket takers to memorize the facial features of every single person who is ejected? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 i still don't quite get it. if i am ejected and i come back 3 weeks later and have a ticket to a seat in a different part of the stadium, how is anyone going to know i am there (assuming i just mind my own business)? do they expect the ticket takers to memorize the facial features of every single person who is ejected? essentially, dumb luck or if you cause any trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wnysteel Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 i still don't quite get it. if i am ejected and i come back 3 weeks later and have a ticket to a seat in a different part of the stadium, how is anyone going to know i am there (assuming i just mind my own business)? do they expect the ticket takers to memorize the facial features of every single person who is ejected? i read that to be, there isn't a way to catch you, only if you screw up again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 I nominate him for the Darwin Award! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JÂy RÛßeÒ Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 i read that to be, there isn't a way to catch you, only if you screw up again. Right. Much like revoking somebody's driver's license. The only way anybody would know if they drove again would be to stop them for something else and then notice theirs is revoked. There is just the hope that the threat of even worse action is enough of a deterrent to keep them away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 can we add this to the list of reasons that bringing a 1 year old could be risky? on a serious note, any updates on the guy that was landed on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMadCap Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 The idiot who fell was fired from his job today, per Profootballtalk.com... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 The idiot who fell was fired from his job today, per Profootballtalk.com... Wow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 The idiot who fell was fired from his job today, per Profootballtalk.com... Makes a little more sense when you know he worked for an advertising firm. A company who's business model is "public perception" has a little more reason to be concerned with this than, say, a landscaping company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 we wouldve known about all this had someone found his facebook already. maybe he live tweeted the slide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 http://buffalorising.com/2012/05/art-buff-rob-hopkins/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 (edited) http://buffalorising.com/2012/05/art-buff-rob-hopkins/ http://www.flickr.com/people/rob45degrees/ https://foursquare.com/rob45degrees Same guy. looks like he goes by rob45degrees (old) and BobbyBenz (new) in the social media world but has closed down all his accounts http://www.last.fm/user/rob45degrees jack can make fun of his music choices now. Edited November 19, 2013 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 http://www.flickr.co...e/rob45degrees/ Same guy. looks like he goes by rob45degrees (old) and BobbyBenz (new) in the social media world but has closed down all his accounts http://www.last.fm/user/rob45degrees jack can make fun of his music choices now. His music taste could be worse. I'll give him some credit there but his account is still deep in the red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 http://twicsy.com/u/rob45degrees all his archived twitter pics. he did not live tweet the fall, but they do reveal hes robkins on words with friends, should anyone want to play a game. dude should have a lot of free time for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Makes a little more sense when you know he worked for an advertising firm. A company who's business model is "public perception" has a little more reason to be concerned with this than, say, a landscaping company. Probably would have gotten a promotion if he worked for Frontier Skydivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just in Atlanta Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Wonder if he hangs out on this site. If so, he needs to apologize STAT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badasss Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Wonder if he hangs out on this site. If so, he needs to apologize STAT. Russ Brandon has permanently banned him from this, and all Bills-related, web sites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeFerguson Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 This reminds me of all those idiots who were photographed vandalizing Vancouver after the Stanley cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Wonder if he hangs out on this site. If so, he needs to apologize STAT. Hmmmm a guy named rob..... Hmmmm Some guy got killed this way at a Braves game a few years back. Were you at the game Sunday? Perhaps in the 300 level, atleast part of the time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 I have to admit I don't hate him so much now that I see how much he loves Buffalo and the Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 I have to admit I don't hate him so much now that I see how much he loves Buffalo and the Bills Too funny... http://twicsy.com/i/VRu59b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Too funny... http://twicsy.com/i/VRu59b Ha - he's just boosting sales! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsaikotic Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Is he a friend of yours or do you not care that he put other people at risk? guy should never be allowed to go to any sporting event ever. HUH??...you must have read my post wrong i'm guessing..I was posting some of the stupid comments from PFT...those aren't my opinions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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