hondo in seattle Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 The biggest playmakers on our offense are arguably CJ Spiller and Fred Jackson. It sucks they both play the same position and won't usually be on the field at the same time. It really sucks that both are hurt for the biggest game of the season so far. Do the Bills have enough talent remaining on the offense to keep up with the Brady led Patriots? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Anchorage Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 The biggest playmakers on our offense are arguably CJ Spiller and Fred Jackson. It sucks they both play the same position and won't usually be on the field at the same time. It really sucks that both are hurt for the biggest game of the season so far. Do the Bills have enough talent remaining on the offense to keep up with the Brady led Patriots? Hopefully that's a moot question. We will know more tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrojanitor Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 If the D shows up and Fitz is able to manage the game/protect the ball like the last two weeks I say we absolutely have the tools to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebug Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 I would say no chance without at least one of these guys. Sad to say, but I think we are screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timba Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 I don't think we need the home run plays out of the running game to be able to succeed against the Pats*. Choice/White had a combined 22 carries for 106 yards (4.8ypc). That is good enough for the offense to be able to sustain drives. I was happy to see that Chan didn't avoid the running game after Spiller went down. The O-Line has been excellent, and should be allowed to continue beating up on defenses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo_bills Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 I still think Jackson will most-likely be back next week, based on reports Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Anchorage Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Did ANYONE notice Choice had 91 yards today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_fan_in_raleigh Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Did ANYONE notice Choice had 91 yards today? i think with our OL i am not worried abut run game my main concern is the defensive game plan for stopping Marcia since right now bad qb are chopping us up a bit in the secondary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offside Number 76 Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Did ANYONE notice Choice had 91 yards today? Yes. He didn't look great, but he was a workhorse. That said, I really hope FJ is back. Choice just isn't what his name advertises, despite a nice game today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cale Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Can we trade for Joquie Bell and get him back from Detroit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 I don't think they will get out of the ravens game without their own bumps an bruises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 I have been thinking about it since he went down. Weigh it out with me... FJ is an aging back with low mileage (supposedly) but he was injured last year and we need him fully healthy. FJ healthy in December is more important then FJ 50% next week. CJ resting next week with what we know does not make sense. He is young and will hopefully be part of our future. Let us make sure he is ready to come back before hurting him up too much. Choice can get some yards against the poor Pats D, although not as dynamic. For those who want one or the other I disagree. If we can have them both on the field at the same time we should. Why would you want to keep one of your biggest weapons off the field? A double wishbone with Cmac in the backfield and Fitz, too. I have been saying it all along, we can really do some good things on offense with schemes and I expect the book to be thrown at the Patriots. So, can we win w/o either? Yes. Will either play, I hope not. Will we win? Yes. Will either play, I expect one to be suited, likely FJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted September 24, 2012 Author Share Posted September 24, 2012 Choice and White did combine for over 100 yards and looked good doing it. But they don't have the ability to break the back of the opponent's defense the way CJ and Freddy do. Gailey's offense has been at least partially dependent on big plays. We haven't been consistent enough (yet) to score a lot of points on long -grind-it-out drives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanInUticaTampa Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 I would say no chance without at least one of these guys. Sad to say, but I think we are screwed. I think we need one of them, but choice still ran for 90 yards today. I think we need our oline healthy more than we need spiller/jackson. I wouldn't count us out if they are both out, but chances are we are really going to need one of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Unlikely we beat them WITH CJ/FJ, so I'm not too hopeful without the two. I'll gladly accept being wrong though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 That would be tough. It would be hard for any team to beat the Pats with their top two RBs out. And exponentially hard when those two RBs are your team's biggest playmakers, or at the least 2 of the top 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marauderswr80 Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Starts in the trenches man!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Starts in the trenches man!!! That's a good point. This is likely the first time in 15 years that the Bills may have a better OL and DL than the Patriots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 vegas has bills +3.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 I have been thinking about it since he went down. Weigh it out with me... FJ is an aging back with low mileage (supposedly) but he was injured last year and we need him fully healthy. FJ healthy in December is more important then FJ 50% next week. CJ resting next week with what we know does not make sense. He is young and will hopefully be part of our future. Let us make sure he is ready to come back before hurting him up too much. Choice can get some yards against the poor Pats D, although not as dynamic. For those who want one or the other I disagree. If we can have them both on the field at the same time we should. Why would you want to keep one of your biggest weapons off the field? A double wishbone with Cmac in the backfield and Fitz, too. I have been saying it all along, we can really do some good things on offense with schemes and I expect the book to be thrown at the Patriots. So, can we win w/o either? Yes. Will either play, I hope not. Will we win? Yes. Will either play, I expect one to be suited, likely FJ. Division games are very important. If he can play, he should be out there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offside Number 76 Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Division games are very important. If he can play, he should be out there I just wanted to repeat it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebug Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 I think we need one of them, but choice still ran for 90 yards today. I think we need our oline healthy more than we need spiller/jackson. I wouldn't count us out if they are both out, but chances are we are really going to need one of them I think spiller might have had 200 net yards today. I just wonder if we can score without FJ or CJ? These guys seem to punch it in for 20 plus yards on the ground or through the air. I think we may start to have troubles getting in the endzone with choice. Man, I hope i am wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Division games are very important. If he can play, he should be out there If the Pats win tonight then we need to play them. If the Pats lose we need to rest at least one The Pats losing tonight would mean the division is still up for grabs easier then the Patriots returning to form - like it already looks. We need to be ready to compete for the 2nd spot. I do not want to be anything but optimistic but we have a lot of work to do before we play as champs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 (edited) If the Pats win tonight then we need to play them. If the Pats lose we need to rest at least one The Pats losing tonight would mean the division is still up for grabs easier then the Patriots returning to form - like it already looks. We need to be ready to compete for the 2nd spot. I do not want to be anything but optimistic but we have a lot of work to do before we play as champs. It shouldnt matter at all what happens in this game. If Fred can play with relatively little risk of further injury he should play. If there is a decent chance that it will linger longer if he plays versus sitting out an extra week he shouldn't. There are 12 weeks to go. Edited September 24, 2012 by Kelly the Dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 I agree, would rather see them sit out and be 100% than having him keep playing while somewhat nicked up. I have been thinking about it since he went down. Weigh it out with me... FJ is an aging back with low mileage (supposedly) but he was injured last year and we need him fully healthy. FJ healthy in December is more important then FJ 50% next week. CJ resting next week with what we know does not make sense. He is young and will hopefully be part of our future. Let us make sure he is ready to come back before hurting him up too much. Choice can get some yards against the poor Pats D, although not as dynamic. For those who want one or the other I disagree. If we can have them both on the field at the same time we should. Why would you want to keep one of your biggest weapons off the field? A double wishbone with Cmac in the backfield and Fitz, too. I have been saying it all along, we can really do some good things on offense with schemes and I expect the book to be thrown at the Patriots. So, can we win w/o either? Yes. Will either play, I hope not. Will we win? Yes. Will either play, I expect one to be suited, likely FJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffOrange Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Of course they can still win, but the margin for error goes from slim to none. Fitz and/or the D needs to play a near perfect game. I understand Choice was fine today, but the difference between a 'good' run that sets up a 1st&goal and a 15yd TD run can be the difference between 3 and 7 points, or the difference between winning and losing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hsp08 Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Yes with no turnovers and a dominating D-line controlling Brady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLutieFLakesPLZnoOJ Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 our O-Line is better then their D-Line and vice versa...so yes we have a chance to beat them just off that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Watching the game tonight the Pats are just chewing up the Ravens D. If I had to guess I'd say the Bills are going to have to put up 28+ points next week to have a chance at winning. That's going to be a tall order without Jackson or Spiller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 (edited) I think Bills would hv trouble beating Pats with Fred and Spiller so obviously even moreso without either Pass defense is still a major issue and with way Brady is picking Ravens apart I can't see it improving next week Bills need to run the ball n pressure Brady to hv any chance Edited September 24, 2012 by Max997 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReturnoftheBuffaloBeast23 Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Nope... If Ryan Fitzshitstain has to beat anybody we lose automatically by 30... FACT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Based on what I've seen the first three weeks of the season, I'd say no, we have little chance. I say this because I feel we don't have a SINGLE CB who is starting caliber in the NFL. Brady will be licking his chops unless the Stache can miraculously bring that sorry bunch up to speed in a week. I just don't see it though. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Can we trade for Joquie Bell and get him back from Detroit? Probably he 5th on their depth chart with Leshoure back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 No. Which is why I am paying very close attention to Fred Jackson's injury report. I simply don't see Choice making himself a big enough threat to make the Patriots to do anything besides blitz the crap out of Fitz. If we get Fred back, it opens up more opportunities. We've spent a lot of time with ways to run effectively, and if Freddy is 85%, our offense can do something. Whether or not the D can stop Brady is another matter entirely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanInUticaTampa Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 I say this because I feel we don't have a SINGLE CB who is starting caliber in the NFL. Granted our cbs are not great, but I think saying that not a single one is starting caliber is a huge exaggeration, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Granted our cbs are not great, but I think saying that not a single one is starting caliber is a huge exaggeration, Probably. But such is life in my doghouse. I am seeing confusion, poor technique, and a general lack of nuance at the position. When Justin Rogers impresses me the most, I think we are in trouble at the position and we are yet to see a good QB this season. That will change when Brady comes to town next Sunday. I'm hoping they make a liar out of me. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canks Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 The biggest playmakers on our offense are arguably CJ Spiller and Fred Jackson. It sucks they both play the same position and won't usually be on the field at the same time. It really sucks that both are hurt for the biggest game of the season so far. Do the Bills have enough talent remaining on the offense to keep up with the Brady led Patriots? maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 The biggest playmakers on our offense are arguably CJ Spiller and Fred Jackson. It sucks they both play the same position and won't usually be on the field at the same time. It really sucks that both are hurt for the biggest game of the season so far. Do the Bills have enough talent remaining on the offense to keep up with the Brady led Patriots? They can if they believe they can It's all about our D. If they let the Pats score on every possession as the Jets did, I don't think we can keep up with them. If they play tough and rattle Brady and get some 3 and outs, we have a chance. We need pressure, heavy pressure up front. We don't have the hosses to shut down Welker, Branch, Ellison, and Gronkowski all at once. I only hope the Bills fans show as game as the Ravens did...I'm convinced the prolonged and loud chants of Bull Sh*t Bull Sh*t helped fire up a tiring Ravens D and get them the ball back. What a 12th man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChasBB Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Came across this today ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_EngM7HmUA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARCELL DAREUS POWER Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 yes, they can. but we really need freddy for this game... our o is way different with him or cj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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