MARCELL DAREUS POWER

i didnt vote to help the mormon church... thats not the point of taxes..... ugh

by complementing the posters teacher? huh

hes more 15-20... i mean come on.

people vote, and legislators decide. unless you think tax is theft... i would say 15%, kinda low man. and you cant say taxed twice, ( corp tax), labor gets the shaft on that one too... im not so sure i agree with a corporate tax, but it should be very low. imo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMiDhmL_zFo&feature=related

will moore play some dt on 3rd down? we only have 3 dts for sunday

probably just a family thing... im guessing nm, just a rest day for the calf. he will play...

from what i understand, he thinks because it has people, they are acting like people. nevermind no democracy or market forces making them make decisions that are sometimes inhumane...

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The first people to get the shaft are always the shareholders, so unless you really have a good reason, there's no point in starting a new corporation. From the example above, I can't fire my buddy, and it's cost prohibitive for us to try to toss him out of the corporation. In fact that's the recurring theme in a collectivist, then free, society. It's not so much that you can't do things, as it is the process is sooo expensive, and the government has put in so many regulations, that you are prevented from doing them by default, because you run out of money, patience, or both. We can't dissolve corporations, or government entities without a massive national push to do so. But, the flip side of that = if there is a massive national push to do something stupid, since collective's "rights" are always valued over individual rights, that stupid thing will be done, no matter what. These LCD collectives...are no different than the Roman mob...or the French Revolution mob. No accountability and thinking only in base terms, appeals to the lowest common denominator(LCD, get it?). Therefore the mob is run by the LCD. As with the Ceasers....and liberal politicians of today...the mob is easily placated by handouts, because the mob, whose thinking is also LCD, is only concerned about today. Do you see the limitation here? Because we are free, for now, and much more so after Romney wins, our corporations have the ability to adapt, adjust and overcome competition, and other external challenges, as they present. The collectivist society will always lag behind in it's adaptability, if it can adapt at all: see Greece. The mob in Greece is making it impossible to do the right things right, in a timely fashion. The rights of the mob, because there are no individual rights, mean it's OK burn and loot, and destroy the country's financial future....because the LCD is in charge. And, the only people who will get elected...are those who promise the mob handouts. Freedom, if nothing else, keeps us safe from the LCD being in charge, of anything. Freedom is the superior approach, it's undeniable. See, the simple fact is: Americans of today are 200 years removed from the mob. Our founding fathers were 0 years removed from the mob, because all they had to do was visit Europe to find it. Thus, our founding fathers had a healthy respect for the danger of the mob and chose freedom as he best way to destroy that danger. Some people in this country, um, 30 year old college students = LCD, want to turn this country over to the mob. OWS is the mob. You got to see what the mob looks like. The choice as to whether to support them, or freedom, is up to you. ok, thats a good point. nowhere do i think, people should be able to not work, or cause many problems, and not be fired. the 1st premise in any co-op is obviously you have to work. and markets work from there. your work, effort, personality, etc are evaluated by others. if you are a dick, never show up to work, are always late, well, the group will vote you out. and if the group is really big, then elected reps can evaluate that decision. so yeah, 1st premise, atleast in my book, nobody just gets a free ride. secondly, some collective action is needed, because we simply cannot do everything with our group or as an individual. we need courts, we need force to deal with certain contracts, we need a military, roads, police, etc etc etc. and that obviously implies taxes. your individual freedom, is dependent on the collective. ( there is simply no way around this). hobbes social contract, blah blah... from what i understand. feel free to correct me, but im pretty sure we need this very basic foundation of govt in order for a political system to work. yes the reps would be elected. if you want to debate capitalism vs democratic socialism, thats fine. but capitalism does not equal a free market imo. ( i could be wrong of course)

humans are so arrogant... you really think you can do whatever you want with nature? with resources that are limited, that can be destroyed? ( which we depend on). this isnt even left/right, its called there is only one earth with only so many resources. green tech has not reached its full potential yet... does this mean we all live in trees? no. does this mean we can have 3 jumbo private jets, 15 mansions and 25 cars? no... " freedom" doesnt mean, do w/e i want no matter what or how it affects others. i lived in oakland, alameda, and humboldt, yes those hipsters can be weird, and sometimes nuts. but for gods sake, stop reffering to "freedom" when a town charges 10 cents for plastic bags or eliminates plastic bags entirely. or when people care about the air people breathe, ya know, to live and stuff... humans have to use the limited energy in a sustainable way, not as much as they want and !@#$ the consequences... it is what it is. but it doesnt matter, because we will learn the hard way. and im not even talking about global warming. peak oil is a fact, and the pain just started. and it will get worse, faster and faster... like mcgloughlin group says, BYE BYE!!!!!!!!! thats another thing i dont get, how is caring about the environment, a left/right issue? it is basic science/math. just like farming, i have these crops. i need to plan this out for the winter, ie being sustainable...........

isnt this a false dichotomy? isnt it part of both? surely some taxes for the public good are necessary surely free markets and voluntary association of the individual and capital diversity are necessary?

1- how smart do you think i am? 2- biggest weakness, and things to watch out for? 3- greatest strength, and things to build on?

what does that mean, " to win" a debate. i mean, is that really what we should be doing. i know this is idealism, but i was thinking about this, and my conversations with people... it would ideal to go into a political discussion slowly, and more so asking questions, making sure you even know what your opponent is saying... idk, w/e