Welborn9 Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 L Network Vikings correspondent Ari Wolfe suggested live from Mankato Tuesday that LT Bryant McKinnie could be released in training camp. Wolfe was only speculating, but the sentiment was echoed by NFL Network's Jason La Canfora and is undoubtedly becoming a possibility. By all accounts, McKinnie is severely out of shape and believed to weigh even more than the 360 pounds he ballooned to by last season's end. (He's listed at 335.) McKinnie is due a $4.9 million salary plus $750,000 in bonuses, the latter of which are being withheld with McKinnie on the the active/NFI list. Monday's signing of Charlie Johnson appears to be a direct indication of the Vikings' concern. Damn the weight...we should get him and stck him at RT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdragon2 Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 So he can whale flop backwards? Pass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welborn9 Posted August 2, 2011 Author Share Posted August 2, 2011 L Network Vikings correspondent Ari Wolfe suggested live from Mankato Tuesday that LT Bryant McKinnie could be released in training camp. Wolfe was only speculating, but the sentiment was echoed by NFL Network's Jason La Canfora and is undoubtedly becoming a possibility. By all accounts, McKinnie is severely out of shape and believed to weigh even more than the 360 pounds he ballooned to by last season's end. (He's listed at 335.) McKinnie is due a $4.9 million salary plus $750,000 in bonuses, the latter of which are being withheld with McKinnie on the the active/NFI list. Monday's signing of Charlie Johnson appears to be a direct indication of the Vikings' concern. Damn the weight...we should get him and stck him at RT Well atleast bring him in...360 is a bit on the big side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfreak Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 L Network Vikings correspondent Ari Wolfe suggested live from Mankato Tuesday that LT Bryant McKinnie could be released in training camp. Wolfe was only speculating, but the sentiment was echoed by NFL Network's Jason La Canfora and is undoubtedly becoming a possibility. By all accounts, McKinnie is severely out of shape and believed to weigh even more than the 360 pounds he ballooned to by last season's end. (He's listed at 335.) McKinnie is due a $4.9 million salary plus $750,000 in bonuses, the latter of which are being withheld with McKinnie on the the active/NFI list. Monday's signing of Charlie Johnson appears to be a direct indication of the Vikings' concern. Damn the weight...we should get him and stck him at RT Why, so him and Jasper can Sumo Wrestle on the sidelines? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 (edited) C'mon Buddy! Prove you are serious about improving the Bills and sign this old, overweight OT because we heard of him! PTR Edited August 2, 2011 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 L Network Vikings correspondent Ari Wolfe suggested live from Mankato Tuesday that LT Bryant McKinnie could be released in training camp. Wolfe was only speculating, but the sentiment was echoed by NFL Network's Jason La Canfora and is undoubtedly becoming a possibility. By all accounts, McKinnie is severely out of shape and believed to weigh even more than the 360 pounds he ballooned to by last season's end. (He's listed at 335.) McKinnie is due a $4.9 million salary plus $750,000 in bonuses, the latter of which are being withheld with McKinnie on the the active/NFI list. Monday's signing of Charlie Johnson appears to be a direct indication of the Vikings' concern. Damn the weight...we should get him and stck him at RT Hmmm. 32 years old and severely out of shape. Just browsing his wikipedia article and 4 of the headlines are... "Boat Cruise Scandal" "Pro Bowl Incident" "2005 Gas Station Incident" "2008 Night Club Incident" That's a ton of red flags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Hmmm. 32 years old and severely out of shape. Just browsing his wikipedia article and 4 of the headlines are... "Boat Cruise Scandal" "Pro Bowl Incident" "2005 Gas Station Incident" "2008 Night Club Incident" That's a ton of red flags. Yeah but he was a #1 pick, and his Madden score was pretty high once, and I've heard of him. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welborn9 Posted August 2, 2011 Author Share Posted August 2, 2011 ok ok ok....maybe I was reaching.. forgive me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 C'mon Buddy! Prove you are serious about improving the Bills and sign this old, overweight OT because we heard of him! PTR Thank you for saying it for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 I remember the draft, it was between him and Mike Williams. And of course, we chose the wrong guy again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acantha Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Hmmm. 32 years old and severely out of shape. Just browsing his wikipedia article and 4 of the headlines are... "Boat Cruise Scandal" "Pro Bowl Incident" "2005 Gas Station Incident" "2008 Night Club Incident" That's a ton of red flags. All that, and the Vikings still got the better OT over us that year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan74 Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Hmmm. 32 years old and severely out of shape. Just browsing his wikipedia article and 4 of the headlines are... "Boat Cruise Scandal" "Pro Bowl Incident" "2005 Gas Station Incident" "2008 Night Club Incident" That's a ton of red flags. perfect Raider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 (edited) I remember the draft, it was between him and Mike Williams. And of course, we chose the wrong guy again. Let me know when McKinnie's bust goes to Canton. Seriously the 2002 Draft was full of busts. Very bad year for 1st Rd picks. PTR Edited August 2, 2011 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Let me know when McKinnie's bust goes to Canton. Seriously the 2002 Draft was full of busts. Very bad year for 1st Rd picks. PTR Maybe so, but McKinnie was FAR from a bust. He never reached the Pace/Ogden level but he was a probowl LT, and a major part of any success that the Vikings had, including Peterson. With all of your criticism of McKinnie, will you be waving pom-poms if Nix does decide to sign him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 I still say we should bring in Hideki Matsui Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Maybe so, but McKinnie was FAR from a bust. He never reached the Pace/Ogden level but he was a probowl LT, and a major part of any success that the Vikings had, including Peterson. With all of your criticism of McKinnie, will you be waving pom-poms if Nix does decide to sign him? So he was less of a piece of crap? Whoopee. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappy Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 I still say we should bring in Hideki Matsui Maybin might be able to tackle him even though HM weighs more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 I still say we should bring in Hideki Matsui I just spit coffee! Funniest line of the day! GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Let me know when McKinnie's bust goes to Canton. Seriously the 2002 Draft was full of busts. Very bad year for 1st Rd picks. PTR Good call. Peppers, Freeney, and Reed were the only 3 players worth a damn in that entire 1st round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Good call. Peppers, Freeney, and Reed were the only 3 players worth a damn in that entire 1st round. Ya think? How about McKinnie, Henderson, L. Jones. Shockey, and C. Grant? Any of them are better than virtually any player we drafted since 2002. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Ya think? How about McKinnie, Henderson, L. Jones. Shockey, and C. Grant? Any of them are better than virtually any player we drafted since 2002. Really EVERY other player drafted that year was better than Mike Williams, but we are debating total bust versus awful, sucks, and barely passable. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 If the Bills picked up McKinnie, most of you would think it was a huge mistake by the Vikings and a great pick-up by the Bills, because he'll look so good in practices...blocking Maybin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Really EVERY other player drafted that year was better than Mike Williams, but we are debating total bust versus awful, sucks, and barely passable. PTR But this is revisionist history wrt McKinnie. He was nowhere near as bad as you portray him to be. He was a very good LT for many seasons. So good, the vikes re-signed him in 2006 to a 7 year/48.5 mil. contract. This included a 13.5 mil. signing bonus. You can continue to berate him and/or call him a bust, but it just isn't so. Please name me the players we have drafted since 2002 that are as good as McKinnie (not counting the 2011 draft). It shouldn't take too long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappy Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 If the Bills picked up McKinnie, most of you would think it was a huge mistake by the Vikings and a great pick-up by the Bills, because he'll look so good in practices...blocking Maybin. Maybin is gone already, he's a boy amongst men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PDaDdy Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 I remember the draft, it was between him and Mike Williams. And of course, we chose the wrong guy again. DUDE!!! I was pissed when we pick Mike Williams over him. If the draft day talk was correct...little known fact McKinnie never gave up a sack in college. At least this guy is still in the league and in the conversation. Might be way to late to right an old wrong though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBob Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 (edited) So he was less of a piece of crap? Whoopee. PTR Dude STOP IT. You're just pissn' off all these guys who KNEW Mckinney was the right pick over Williams. It is damaging to their psyche! But this is revisionist history wrt McKinnie. He was nowhere near as bad as you portray him to be. He was a very good LT for many seasons. So good, the vikes re-signed him in 2006 to a 7 year/48.5 mil. contract. This included a 13.5 mil. signing bonus. You can continue to berate him and/or call him a bust, but it just isn't so. Please name me the players we have drafted since 2002 that are as good as McKinnie (not counting the 2011 draft). It shouldn't take too long. But I have to admit it is fun to watch them attempt to protect their position. Keep grabbing for those straws boys! Edited August 2, 2011 by BuffaloBob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdragon2 Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Gas - onto - Flames. AdamSchefter Adam Schefter Filed to ESPN: Vikings cut OT Bryant McKinnie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeyBomb Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 (edited) McKinnie has JUST been cut. Edited August 2, 2011 by DukeyBomb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 If the Bills had picked up prior to this thread, the same people lauding McKinnie would be the ones talking about how is old, out of shape and over the hill and how it is another awful decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lv-Bills Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Let me know when McKinnie's bust goes to Canton. Seriously the 2002 Draft was full of busts. Very bad year for 1st Rd picks. PTR Yeah, except McKinnie wasn't a bust, and we again chose stupidly despite needing McKinnie's OT position. But this is revisionist history wrt McKinnie. He was nowhere near as bad as you portray him to be. He was a very good LT for many seasons. So good, the vikes re-signed him in 2006 to a 7 year/48.5 mil. contract. This included a 13.5 mil. signing bonus. You can continue to berate him and/or call him a bust, but it just isn't so. Please name me the players we have drafted since 2002 that are as good as McKinnie (not counting the 2011 draft). It shouldn't take too long. Thank You for this post. The homer alert was sounded and you came to the rescue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 If the Bills had picked up prior to this thread, the same people lauding McKinnie would be the ones talking about how is old, out of shape and over the hill and how it is another awful decision. Not me. If he can pass medical tests, I would be all for taking a chance on him. If he is healthy, he is far better than any OT on our team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coseybedaman Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Let me be the first to admit that if we signed this guy I would be thrilled and LOVE THE MOVE! Its such a joke that everyone on this board thinks every player in the NFL sucks besides the one's on our team. Its such a joke. Vernon Carey and Bryant McKinnie are better than ANY, thats right ANY offensive lineman we have had this decade. I have news for everyone. The reason we have "heard of them", and the reason "they are ranked highly in madden" is because they are "good". Here is a concept. Good football players. Bring in good football players, and maybe you will have a good team. You guys can build your dream team with Manny Wrotto, Ed Wang, and Demetrius Bell, but call me crazy. I'd take Carey and McKinnie. Its so funny how everyone would like to pass on signings like this when these guys have combined for 214 starts out of 224 possible games for offensive lines that have been FAR FAR BETTER than ours for 10 years now. That is consistency, and reliability IMO something that this organization knows nothing about right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoretalk Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 C'mon Buddy! Prove you are serious about improving the Bills and sign this old, overweight OT because we heard of him! PTR We should have drafted him when we had the chance ... make up for past mistakes Buddy ... bring him in and put him at guard ... Levitre needs to sit back another season ... we need to find every lineman being cut this year because if they have years of experience it is better than putting in a young player because what have young players shown ... NOTHING ... in fact, cut all the rookies and second year players ... drafts are for fools ... Free Agency is what makes you the king of the castle ... sign em up and cut those wasted rookies ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommy12 Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 I still say we should bring in Hideki Matsui Haha +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Not me. If he can pass medical tests, I would be all for taking a chance on him. If he is healthy, he is far better than any OT on our team. What part of he got cut for not being healthy got missed here? Amituanai, Conan Huntley, Rod Isom, Byron Johnson, Charlie Kooistra, Scott Love, DeMarcus The Vikings feel these guys would all do a better job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coseybedaman Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Yes clearly Demarcus Love is a better player than Bryant McKinnie. He should be removed from the league after being a pro bowl caliber left tackle for 8 seasons and not missing 1 game due to injury the whole time. Obviously in horrific shape and can never see the field again. Relax guys, he came into camp a little heavy. A 10 year vet thats never missed a start can do that every now and then. What part of he got cut for not being healthy got missed here? Amituanai, Conan Huntley, Rod Isom, Byron Johnson, Charlie Kooistra, Scott Love, DeMarcus The Vikings feel these guys would all do a better job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richNjoisy Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Not me. If he can pass medical tests, I would be all for taking a chance on him. If he is healthy, he is far better than any OT on our team. Well, at least they can make Jerry Sullivan happy. That's worth a lot in my book Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Well, at least they can make Jerry Sullivan happy. That's worth a lot in my book Yeah, like anything can make Jerry Sullivan happy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Not me. If he can pass medical tests, I would be all for taking a chance on him. If he is healthy, he is far better than any OT on our team. I wouldn't be against it, because that would mean that Nix, Whaley and Gailey REALLY thought he could help the team. I just see extremely little chance they will, however. They have made a concerted effort to change the culture of the Bills, and have signed and drafted (almost exclusively) tough, hungry, leaders who give 100% on the field. McKinnie is none of those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Yes clearly Demarcus Love is a better player than Bryant McKinnie. He should be removed from the league after being a pro bowl caliber left tackle for 8 seasons and not missing 1 game due to injury the whole time. Obviously in horrific shape and can never see the field again. Relax guys, he came into camp a little heavy. A 10 year vet thats never missed a start can do that every now and then. What leads you to believe that a ten year vet can do that? Obviously, not with the Vikings. This also seems to imply that because the guy is older and over 30 that him being out of shape and unable to perform is somehow better than a younger guy being out of shape. It's much more difficult to keep your body performing post 30. He may see the field again, but the question is, is it worth it for him to be there? You've already had one NFL team decide that Demarcus Love has higher value than McKinney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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