LABills08 Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 Right on. RT @mortreport: So after what Leslie Frazier's Vikes defense did to Jason Garrett's offense, the Bills better stop playing around. Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonabb Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 Right on. RT @mortreport: So after what Leslie Frazier's Vikes defense did to Jason Garrett's offense, the Bills better stop playing around. Yes. Yeah, he's a genuis with the Williams, Jared Allen, Kennedy and the DBs like Winfield. It's so laughable this idea that coordinators are geniuses when they win with some of the best talent in the league. Isn't that what they're supposed to do? The best companies have the best talent first, not the best managers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthICE Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 Yeah, he's a genuis with the Williams, Jared Allen, Kennedy and the DBs like Winfield. It's so laughable this idea that coordinators are geniuses when they win with some of the best talent in the league. Isn't that what they're supposed to do? The best companies have the best talent first, not the best managers. First, our sevondary is BETTER than the Vikings. Second their GM listened to him as for as what he needed talent wise. Third, did the tallent call for the right blitzes at the right time? Did the talent outsmart Garrett and the cowboys? No. Quit making up bull **** to put down a damn good coach that could be a damn good HC for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 The way I see it, try to interview Garrett and Grimm and see if we can get either one of those two or Frazier. I would have to say it's between those three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkady Renko Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 Um... what are they supposed to do? Frazier can't accept the job right now and what's to stop him from turning the Bills down when he can? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince61 Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 Is Mort smart? Maybe someone in Bristol should mention to him that Frazier IS STILL IN THE PLAYOFFS! There is nothing the Bills are anyone else can do about hiring him now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 Am I missing something? FRAZIER CAN NOT COMMIT TILL HIS CURRENT JOB IS FINISHED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VADC Bills Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 First, our sevondary is BETTER than the Vikings. Second their GM listened to him as for as what he needed talent wise. Third, did the tallent call for the right blitzes at the right time? Did the talent outsmart Garrett and the cowboys? No. Quit making up bull **** to put down a damn good coach that could be a damn good HC for us. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 Yeah, he's a genuis with the Williams, Jared Allen, Kennedy and the DBs like Winfield. It's so laughable this idea that coordinators are geniuses when they win with some of the best talent in the league. Isn't that what they're supposed to do? The best companies have the best talent first, not the best managers. The best companies do what? How do they get the best talent without having great managers hire them? That's just not true. So I guess you don't know any bad teams with good people on them? Is that really right? Seriously? And how many good coaches do you know with all bad players? There's name for good coaches with bad players. Dick Jauron. Loser. Those are two of them. The coach still has to put it together. He has to put them in the right places to succeed. Frazier has done that. That defense has improved every year. An awful lot of that is Frazier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthtobrint Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 First, our sevondary is BETTER than the Vikings. Second their GM listened to him as for as what he needed talent wise. Third, did the tallent call for the right blitzes at the right time? Did the talent outsmart Garrett and the cowboys? No. Quit making up bull **** to put down a damn good coach that could be a damn good HC for us. I'd be fine with Frazier, but let's not go overboard on that one game. The Vikings defensive line physically dominated the Cowboys offensive line without even needing to blitz. That's more on the execution of the players than any OC or DC outsmarting the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vizslafan Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 Take this for what it is worth - a coworker of mine played on the Eastern Illinois national champ (div II) team, 1979 or so. Shanahan was head coach along with several current NFL assistants such as John Teerlink and Mike Heimerdinger. Said the year before those guys got there the team was not very good. Shanahan and crew won the championship with pretty much the same players from the year before. My friend, who experienced that first hand, said as far as he is concerned it is "all about coaching". Need a good manager and good players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 Yeah, he's a genuis with the Williams, Jared Allen, Kennedy and the DBs like Winfield. It's so laughable this idea that coordinators are geniuses when they win with some of the best talent in the league. Isn't that what they're supposed to do? The best companies have the best talent first, not the best managers. Too bad the Jets didn't listen to you last year when they hired that bum of a DC that was just lucky to have great players. Am I missing something? FRAZIER CAN NOT COMMIT TILL HIS CURRENT JOB IS FINISHED That's what I thought. I was under the impression that they can't even talk to him at this point until the Vikes are done. ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uforesircher Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 Yeah, he's a genuis with the Williams, Jared Allen, Kennedy and the DBs like Winfield. It's so laughable this idea that coordinators are geniuses when they win with some of the best talent in the league. Isn't that what they're supposed to do? The best companies have the best talent first, not the best managers. don't you believe it - the best companies have the best managers AND the excellent talent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12thman Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 First, our sevondary is BETTER than the Vikings. Second their GM listened to him as for as what he needed talent wise. Third, did the tallent call for the right blitzes at the right time? Did the talent outsmart Garrett and the cowboys? No. Quit making up bull **** to put down a damn good coach that could be a damn good HC for us. I'm with you. What is all the hate on Frazier around here? From everything I gather he is well respected around the league and deserving of a head coach opportunity. Yet according to most people on here who might watch 1% of Vikings games and have no idea how he is regarded in the clubhouse want nothing to do with him. Plus his side of the ball is playing some fantastic football right now. With the experienced head coaches not wanting anything to do with us, I'm all for him. He may come in here and be a damn good coach. The only way we will know is to give him a shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 It will be Frazier, with either Martz or Saunders as OC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 I'll take Frazier, but, God please, no Mike Martz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayFinkle Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 Yeah, he's a genuis with the Williams, Jared Allen, Kennedy and the DBs like Winfield. It's so laughable this idea that coordinators are geniuses when they win with some of the best talent in the league. Isn't that what they're supposed to do? The best companies have the best talent first, not the best managers. 3 out of the 4 starting d-lineman on the bills have made the probowl at some point..and out DBs are better than the Viks... The only missing component is Lbs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastMode54 Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 Yeah, he's a genuis with the Williams, Jared Allen, Kennedy and the DBs like Winfield. It's so laughable this idea that coordinators are geniuses when they win with some of the best talent in the league. Isn't that what they're supposed to do? The best companies have the best talent first, not the best managers. So was Bill Walsh a bad coach, Marv Levy in the 90's, Parcells with the Giants? Your argument is retarded. Yes, talent obviously helps a HC, but where do you draw the line. You need a coach to direct the talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilbuffalobob Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 Yeah, he's a genuis with the Williams, Jared Allen, Kennedy and the DBs like Winfield. It's so laughable this idea that coordinators are geniuses when they win with some of the best talent in the league. Isn't that what they're supposed to do? The best companies have the best talent first, not the best managers. And it's utterly sickening that this is the type of situation that Bill Coward is holding out for. For instance, let's say San Diego comes open tomorrow and he gets them over the hump next year. Big deal. Take our mess and make it something. That's coaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanInUticaTampa Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 I'll take Frazier, but, God please, no Mike Martz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NobesBLO13 Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 Am I missing something? FRAZIER CAN NOT COMMIT TILL HIS CURRENT JOB IS FINISHED It boggles my mind how useless Mort has become. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 THAT DEFENSE WAS MIKE TOMLINS DEFENSE 1st... Mike Tomlin was in Minnesota ONE year. He didn't build jack in Minnesota. In fact, they've had a regular revolving door at DC: Frazier, Tomlin, Cottrell, O'Leary, and Thomas in the past decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnr472003 Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 [This is an automated response] This subject matter is being currently being discussed or has already been discussed in a previous thread. Please consider using the "search" function before starting new topics. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanuts Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 It will be Frazier, with either Martz or Saunders as OC. Yes!!! Frazier with Martz or Saunders would really work and then also draft a DT like T.Cody#1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Rob Johnson Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 Yeah, he's a genuis with the Williams, Jared Allen, Kennedy and the DBs like Winfield. It's so laughable this idea that coordinators are geniuses when they win with some of the best talent in the league. Isn't that what they're supposed to do? The best companies have the best talent first, not the best managers. But isn't that what all coaches do? Ultimately don't we judge coaches on what they are able to do with the talent around them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bisonbrigade Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 It will be Frazier, with either Martz or Saunders as OC. Frazier = Jauron. Over my DEAD body. If that happens I will become a Jaguars fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jethro_tull Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 Frazier is the real deal. Tony Dungee would hire him in a heartbeat. My only concern is who do the Bills pick for OC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 Frazier = Jauron. Over my DEAD body. If that happens I will become a Jaguars fan. Go then. At least the Jags fanbase will be up to 32 members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaninATL Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 it's Dungy Frazier is the real deal. Tony Dungee would hire him in a heartbeat. My only concern is who do the Bills pick for OC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notwoz Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 [This is an automated response] This subject matter is being currently being discussed or has already been discussed in a previous thread. Please consider using the "search" function before starting new topics. Thank you. Everything on these boards has ben discussed to death. But thanks for the reminder. I'll keep searching for "something new" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 Frazier is the real deal. Tony Dungee would hire him in a heartbeat. Yeah and Bill Walsh said we made a nice draft pick in Trent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanInUticaTampa Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 Yeah and Bill Walsh said we made a nice draft pick in Trent. I think coaches are more predictable than 3rd round QBs that didn't have any nfl experience at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 Most sports reporters are useless now. How many articles have you read that contain something more than a thread on a message board? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazed and Amuzed Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 Leslie Frazier will be the next head coach of the Dallas Cowboys if the Bills don't make a quick decision. That's my prediction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanInUticaTampa Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 Leslie Frazier will be the next head coach of the Dallas Cowboys if the Bills don't make a quick decision. That's my prediction. What "decision" would that be? They can't sign Fraizer until the season is over or the vikings are knocked out of the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazed and Amuzed Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 What "decision" would that be? They can't sign Fraizer until the season is over or the vikings are knocked out of the playoffs. I'm drinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpcolosi Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 No one has brought this up yet - but is it possible Schefter is right, we have a "hand shake" deal in place with Frazier, and part of the reason we are getting "turned down" is that other coaches know this? is it possible the only reason we are asking to interview guys is to be "thorough" and nothing more then that? I'd be shocked if they try to interview anyone else at this point. obviously Frazier was their top choice. I questions whether they actually offered it to Harbaugh or not. that seems like quite the stretch and NO one other then Casserly has reported it. I just simply think Frazier is and has been the guy. It makes sense as well in that he didnt want to interview with the Seahawks either... just my thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpcolosi Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 Frazier = Jauron. Over my DEAD body. If that happens I will become a Jaguars fan. except that it doesn't. but hey, take your fleeting fanhood and head to Jax.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_fan_in_raleigh Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 3 out of the 4 starting d-lineman on the bills have made the probowl at some point..and out DBs are better than the Viks... The only missing component is Lbs but we have aaron maybin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingfish Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 No one has brought this up yet - but is it possible Schefter is right, we have a "hand shake" deal in place with Frazier, and part of the reason we are getting "turned down" is that other coaches know this? I was thinking this as well, supposedly stuff like this is well known among coaches and their agents. I suppose that if this week the Bills don't do any more interviews we can be certain that Frazier is going to be hired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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