Ed_Formerly_of_Roch

Agree, you want to make changes fine. But Peyton won one SB with one of best QB's in league, but also had a few .500 seasons and lost a number of playoff games as big favorite. Don't think he's all that much of an improvement. Just not a fan.

Oliver is on 5th year option so they Bills are committed $10 mil to him for 2023 and if you let him walk you still paid him the $10 mil as a cap hit. So he's not going anywhere. Think I missed something here, who are you talking about and what happened??

2 Don't understand the Oliver one? He's on a 5th year option so the way I see it they have three choices, sign him to a long term deal with a much lower cap hit, keep him on the 5th year option and pay him the $10 mil he's due in 2023 or cut him and take a $10 mil cap hit. 5th year options are fully guaranteed so there really is no in between. It's not like he's on the last year of contract and can let him play out deal like Poyer this year. 3. Doubt they'll cut Brown as only on 3rd year of cheap contract. And if he's terrible as you say, who'd want him. 13. With Shakir, and McKenzie (unless they do cut him) not sure they really need Beasley Others don't disagree much with, not sure how many will happen, probably less than half, but do agre they need to do something different and likely needs to be something big.

I feel the opposite. Last 2 years looked real good. There was an optimistic wait till next year as were only to get better feeling. This year not so sure. Need to do something different, not sure what is and have limited money to do it with. But they need to make changes either players, coaches, or philosophies. Today out of this game early as you said. They won 8 in a row, but could have easily lost all eight of them too. Ever since the KC game in Oct, never really looked quite right. So for all those reasons I feel better about it than the last two years. I kind of expected it to come crashing down. Was hoping they'd turn things around and crush them, but not shocked by outcome.

Yeah didn't even think about that. Another reason a hard no for me. I'm just not much of a Peyton fan. Different if you're a team like Houston who needs alot of work and isn't going to turn it around in one year. So giving up a 1st rounder, long term won't help that much. But the Bills are in a win now situation and need draft picks to replace vets that they no longer can afford to keep

You want to change coaches OK, not that I totally agree or think it will happen. But wouldn't be in favor of Peyton. He won one SB with a top 5 QB, and had a number of .500 seasons. Really not that impressed with him. Think the bigger issue may be the schemes and coordinators than McD.

Better not let her hear you say that! Or Else!!

OK but the question was never about which was better team KC today or Bills of 90's Question was why is KC considered best team in the league TODAY. My response was because of 5 years straight to AFC championship game with 5 division too. I then compared it to the Bills of 90's and why for similar reasons they were considered the best team even though never won a SB.

I just always remember him as Joe Messi. Didn't know there was actually a Bobby in front of that. The question I'd ask is how much of Jessica's life has actually been spent in Western NY. I believe the Pegula's call Boca Raton home, likely Jessica would too. I did look her profile up, I see it does list Buffalo as her home town, but still question how much time was actually spent there. Which does bring up the question, I wonder what state Terry is legally a resident of, where does he vote and pay state taxes in, or in the case of Florida not pay state taxes in.

5 years straight to AFC championship game with 5 division too. The only other team in the current time frame that was close to as good was Green Bay, but they'd usually lose early in playoffs and this year didn't even make them. It's kind of like most people would say the Bills were the best team of the early 90's but never won a SB. Even there, one of the years they went as a wild card.

Which is much different than what everyone was saying back in September. Add in that three NFC teams expected to be good were pretty weak, Green Bay, LA, and Tampa. But others took their spot.

The concern though is many have been really bad ints. The pass last week that went off Beasleys hand, don't fault him on that one, but as posted above many seem like he never even saw the guy. Many times you see int's in desperation time where it's just heaved downfield, or under thrown passes due to QB just not having the arm to get it there. But that's not what you see with Allen.

What do we need Brown for with playoff Gabe!! Think it's more due to McKenzie healthy now, so with him plus Beasley, Shakir, Davis, and Diggs, not really room. Does worry mea little though as not much outside backup at WR. But that's kind of been that way all year.

OK, I must have missed the TO TX!

Definitely noticed those two in bold.

Was half time around 3:00, add 15 minutes for half time, so 3rd quarter started around 3:15. 2nd half wasn't that bad then overall, 1:35. 2nd halves typically take more time. Was just extremely slow 1st half. Watching the game, not really sure why though either??

Would be interesting to see if McD would go that route. My take on Dorsey is as an ex QB he's too enamored with the pass. So not sure I'd want to grab another ex QB for OC position. That may have been the advantage of Daboll, not being an ex player.

Can see it either going two ways. He realized himself he can't do this and retires Or He chalks it up to too many distractions, the divorce, injuries around him weak team, and comes back another year on a better team to prove to everyone he's still the greatest. Whether that works is another question.

NFL teams are averaging about 6.4 net yards per pass attempt and 4.3 yards per carry. When you have a Josh Allen IMO that's a bad idea because of above. I found that stat for the entire league, I'd imagine if looking at teams like Buffalo, KC, Bengals, you'd see an even larger difference. Certainly can pass from formation you're suggesting but keeping three wide increases your chance, assuming the three are good to better WR's. Having an elite QB also makes the WR's and d TE's too look better. Having said that do feel the Bills need more WR help than present.

I think the offense is and would continue to be more effective having 3WR's on the field so don't want to take one of them off the field routinely to go with 2 TE's. So not worth spending the money for those few times we may want to have 2 pass catching TE's on the field. I would rather spend money to sign a FA WR or draft one in 1st or 2nd round. 2 TE's on the field are good for weak arm QB's who live on 5 yard passes over the middle.

If that's the case people on this board surely have a strange way of showing they agree with that. Granted not that posters here are exactly experts on NFL play calling even though we think we are.

Wasn't that why in basketball years back they went to a clock that shows tenths of a second, that when the clock shows 1 it really means it's between 1.00 and 1.99 and when it shows zero it's really between 0.00 and .999? This won't be a popular take, but officials are kind of trained to "let them play" and don't blow the whistle for trivial things and make it out that they are the center of the game. I'm a volleyball official, when you blow the whistle for a player to serve, they have 8 seconds to serve it. If after 8 seconds they haven't served, you blow the whistle again and that team loses the serve. But as an official when I get to 8 if I see the player has started to toss the ball or even just looks like they are ready to toss the ball, I'm not going to blow the whistle for that. I'll give that to them even if that means they really had 9 or 10 seconds. The goal would be to let them play. Granted there's no viable clock, so no one has any idea where I am in my count. I suppose could make it like soccer that the official on the field has the clock in his pocket, so no one else on the field has any idea how much time is actually left. I find it interesting that a soccer game never ends when a team is running down the field on a semi breakaway or in the middle of shooting. One rule change I would like to see is like in basketball a team has 5 seconds to inbound the ball, but once they reach 4, a team can't call time out. Make it that once the play clock hit's 3 seconds, teams can't call time out. Who knows maybe that's why they get extra time, the umpire is supposed to once the clock hit's zero look to see if the ball is snapped. As common as it's become, maybe before looking at the ball, they are first looking to the sideline to see if the coach is trying to call a TO! LOL

Allen lobbied hard for Dorsey. Have to wonder if it's a situation where he wanted him for the job, but still thinks they are in the same relationship as they were last year as his QB coach who'd kind of make suggestions, give him him a pat on the back and understand him. He doesn't really respect him as a boss. He's not knowingly trying to disobey him, just figures things are like they were last year. I relate it to situations you sometimes see in office environments where a bunch of people who worked together, all got along well as peers. Then one of them gets promoted to boss, but the others just continue to see him as their buddy and peer. Assuming the Bills don't win the SB, would McD replace him or just sit down with him and tell him, this year was your one mulligan, you were inexperienced. I'm giving you one year to figure things out, else next year you're gone

I thought it's the same as in a soccer game when the referee pulls out his can of spray paint and paints the line across the field??

First off why then didn't the other games also take 4 hours? Think there were just stoppages, challenges, etc. The NFL doesn't dictate the commercials, the television network decides that. Likely in the TV contract it states how many minutes of commercials per game. Could the NFL have said no, sure but the networks need the revenue to pay for the rights. I guess the NFL should have told the networks, not don't pay us that much we want less. I'm sure the players would have supported that and gladly taken less in salaries too.