Ed_Formerly_of_Roch

One small clarification and maybe you were implying this, 4:05 games are NOT in the prime time window only 4:25 games. 4:05 starts are regional games just like the 1:00 except usually have a west coast home team. Those games are usually only viewed in the two cites of the teams playing, plus teams that had a 1:00 game that was on whatever network has the doubleheader game that week, so the 4:05 game would be shown instead of a 1:00 game on TV opposite their own game.

OK you're talking about Carr?? I was talking about Rogers in the context of he may be the next one now to go to the Jets.

I was kidding when I said that. The problem with him is I don't think he knows what he wants. He may think a fresh start with a new team is what he needs, but can see in 2 months or so the desire may be gone again. And then whatever team he signs with or traded to is on the hook for the remainder of his contract.

So are you saying you think he's washed up, or much better than good?? Personally I think he may be much better than he looked last year as not sure his heart was in it anymore in Green Bay. And not sure where ever he goes that his heart will stay in it longer than a couple of months.

Agree about the money part, but in Rogers case may just be he wants out of Green Bay. He's under contract so the terms follow him and the boat load of money. Unless he wants to tell the Jets or some other new team, no I refuse to be paid that much, I want much less!

The other good thing about all these cuts is, it depresses Edmunds worth too as more well seasoned good competition he's up against.

That will be Rodgers instead now. That also eliminated one more good QB in AFC and specifically AFC East. Not sure how much Rodgers really has left and how long he'll stay interested either.

Answer is it depends on what happens between now and then WRT Edmunds and in FA. If Edmund's is gone the picking a LB may make alot more sense. Add to that do they sign a good FA guard and WR? If so then the two positions on offense they need a starter for are replaced so then going defense may make more sense.

So I did read the article. I didn't see anywhere that it stated Miller asked to work with the Bills but they declined or that the Bills asked Miller to work with them and he declined. Going on his own certainly is a better way to network with more people from different perspectives and "Coaching trees" Yes Florio thinks it's odd, can't say I disagree or agree wit him, it's just his take and wrote a column about it. He was drafted by Elway at Denver, for all we know, Elway may have told him at one time that this exactly what he had done years back maybe while still playing. Social media has changed the world in that everyone knows what everyone else is doing all the time if you're somewhat famous. 30 years ago, Elway could have done the same and no one would have even noticed. Or at least not maybe the 5 people covering the combine back then. He also has the status that allows him to do this whereas many who may want to can't. As Florio pointed out, it does sound a bit like Miller want's to follow the Elway route and become a GM without working his way up the latter, doing something like this, would help him there.

I'm just responding to your comment that you knew what their goal was the past three years. While I do agree with you the past two season their goal very likely was the SB, not so sure 3 years ago. That would have been a pretty big jump. And this past year while I certainly do think the SB was their goal in Sept and Oct, by the end of the seasons between the injuries, the Hamlin situation, blizzards, Kim, wonder if they still flt that way. Publicly and to the team itself would they state that, no. But privately did Beane in particular feel that way deep down. That their chance to win wasn't that high.

That's interesting that you know what the teams actual goals were every year. When does Terry send them to you, can you forward me his email? There are 32 teams in the NFL. While all 32 will publicly tell you their goal is to win the SB every year, realistically behind closed doors, teams likely discuss where they really are. Was this past year to win the SB and did they feel they had a good shot, sure. Prior particularly 3 years ago reaching the AFC championship game may have exceeded their expectations. Even this past year, by the end of the season, not so sure the team even believed they could win it between all the injuries and other things that happened. So the only goals and expectations they didn't meet were yours. and most fans here. But you're not speaking for the team.

Probably the ones too drunk to realize what a dumb thing this is to do.

Completely agree with the example of Reid. Who are you going to replace him with? This isn't college where you can buy out some other coaches existing contract. So your choice is another retread who recently got fired like was done with Rex Ryan, McCarthy, etc. Or you take a flyer on a new and upcoming OC or DC and it were a DC again this board would likely blow up. But more of these up and comers don't exceed as a HC than succeed. Look at he ones in Carolina and AZ. Even McVay the boy wonder is a bit questionable as has been up and down a bit. Maybe every ten years or so a situation comes around where a guy like Sean Payton becomes available, but Denver had to give up draft picks to get him and his record other than one SB win his record isn't much better than McDermott's. Will be interesting to see how Payton does in Denver as very limited draft picks the next two seasons . By the time they can get young guys up to speed, Wilson even if Payton can straighten him out, may be too old.

Yeah I kind of expected something along those lines too based on title.

Of all the things you mention, storage unit is probably one of the easiest to get away with as hard to know when a person is using it for legit purposes as opposed to living there. Some are even air conditioned.

Did they know? There was a guy who I worked with about 20 years ago who lived over a year in his office with no one knowing. Occasionally if I were there late in the evening or on a Saturday, he'd be there, but just assumed like myself was catching up on some work. Eventually there was a downsizing and he got laid off. Only then when his office was being cleaned out did they figure out he was actually living there.

I think the FA numbers are somewhat misleading in that they are signing many of these guys particularly linemen to one year deals. So that inflates the number of players brought in while defensive players are signed and resigned to more long term bigger deals, so less total number of them. As also pointed out, you can't ignore the value of the picks round 1 vs round 7.

So how would that work under salary cap? The team would be committing $xx mil towards the 2023 cap. But if he didn't play at all, he wouldn't get paid. Would the Ravens then get that money credited back towards the 2024 cap? Would make it easy to tag him again as wouldn't cost that much more for 2nd year tag. Would it even be considered a 2nd year cap, could be a bog league NFLPA argument over that one. Believe too the rules changed in last CBA that he needs to report by week one to have the year count as accrued, used to be around week 10

But what was the alliterative? Not give Dorsey the job and hire someone from outside? Agree was risk and many of the things you mention did surface to some extend. Was it Dorsey's fault, or was problem really elsewhere, hard to say for certain. But you don't know either many brand new OC's did very well, eventually becoming a HC elsewhere, where ironically they'd often fail. Plus going elsewhere, highly likely Dorsey would have bolted, likely to Giants, and ran the risk of ticking off your franchise QB in the process. Also whomever is brought in, run the risk of them not jelling with Allen, or wanting to change things up a lot, maybe for the better or maybe for the worse. It was a gamble they took, certainly didn't work out as well as hoped for, but not a total failure either when you look at the numbers were still one of the top offense teams overall in the league. Admittedly the eyeball test didn't seem to totally agree with the numbers IMO

But realistically at the end of the 2021 season the offense, the offense was working at a very high level. The biggest issues in 2020 and 2021 was stopping the run and sacking the QB. The year in 2022 it didn't work, but yet almost the same team as 2021 was back the only exceptions were Stafford for Williams, McKenzie for Beasley and Dorsey for Daboll, plus new line coach. What was the problem, who knows. The area that seemed to regress the most was the Oline which again 4 of the 5 players were back and had a new coach. Not disagreeing that they need to spend resources on the offense, but can understand why more attention was given to defense.

How much of that 3 years was he actually healthy for? Likely if he was able to stay on the field they would have seen what he's capable of. Whether that would have meant they kept him or not who knows. And yes we saw what he did, but still in a very small window of time. Lets see what next year brings. A player that many think should be in the HOF. Steve Tasker "got away" from was it the Oilers?? It happens.

It's easier for the Giants to grab players like Berida as they didn't have a very talented roster, certainly back in Sept, no one expected them to make the playoffs. The Bills are a pretty deep team so harder to find a spot for guys like this. It's like the early year the Bills made the playoffs and Duke Williams had like 9 catches. He probably hasn't had that many since career wise Not very easy to give fringe players chances as during pre season no other teams are playing "real game settings" either. So the only way would be to cut guys in September to take a chance on someone like Williams. Very likely more often they'd be wrong by doing that than right.

The big questions is will he and Duke Williams enter the HOF in the same class?

I heard it was 7 years, but she should have made it 8 years!

Well I meant NFL just that was before AFL was also around. They were the champions of entire league as was no SB back then. Basically they won the last game of the season that they played 4 times