Ed_Formerly_of_Roch

Absolutely!! Absolutely! Easy when posting that the words don't reflect what the mind is thinking. I highlighted the 6 just to say we have 6 interior lineman and typically only five are kept so one is likely gone off 53. thee consecutive thoughts, all bundled into ole bolded text. Doubt anyone goes anywhere till the end of August just in case a bad long term injury Of the 6, McGovern and Torrance are the two locks to stay. IMO Ike B is the easiest to cut and bring back on PS Bates would likely want to be kept for his versatility, but he also may bring the most back in trade value. If thinking about the future, then Morse is best to let go as likely with the others all being younger, this is probably Morse last year so rather than risk losing one of the others now and then Morse in another year, let him go now. As someone else stated, cutting bates saves $6 mil. Ideally trade him, but unlikely anyone would take on that contract. Once you get beyond the two locks Edwards has the least history with the team so unless he impresses in camp, he could become the easiest to cut

The 6 in bold are the interior lineman, excluding McGovern and Torrence, one of the other 4 will get cut or traded, my bet would be on Boettger as typically teams go with 5 interior and 4 tackles. Or could they make a more shocking move and cut Morse? Not 100% certain Torrence will start, could be Bates instead. But if they were to cut Morse, then Torrence starts at guard and Bates at Center

There were 5 TE's drafted before Knox, none of them are still with the team that drafted them. Gronk was drafted in 2nd, Kittle 3rd, and Kelce 5th (may have those 2 reversed??) TE IMO is the 2nd hardest position to project other than QB. Having said that, sounds like the Bills plan to use him more like a slot receiver so makes me less worried. Likely the biggest thing he'll need to improve is his blocking.

Agree LOL. Last year Edmunds was MLB, so was Milano RLB or LLB? or did he play two different positions? When only two are on the field is kind of hard to argue who's the MLB.

Except in obvious run plays, likely their defense will be 3 Lineman and likely Jones comes off, 2LB (Milano and probably Klein) 3 CB and 3 S with Rapp being 3rd. Klein played pretty well, won defensive player of the week once they used him strictly against run and as blitzer. As long as he's not asked to cover someone, he does OK. Can see most plays either Milano or Klein blitzing and on occasion throw in CB or S to mix things up. Maybe one of these other names at LB shows significant improvement and takers Klein's spot?

Agree, then who comes off the field? I'm thinking DT, Jones? Then have 2 LB on field and one of them may blitz on any given play, so up to offense to figure out which one it is. An on occasion blitz a safety to mix things up.

Maybe. Depends how much he's improved, if not a better chance of it being Klein, but with 3 lineman, 2 LB, 3CB and 3S on the field. Either way, think 2nd LB position will be less showcased overall.

I'll go with wither Hyatt or a LB, Simpson or Sanders

He's not a newscaster or actor so not necessarily trained to a super high degree in public speaking. Likely reading off a teleprompter which I'd imagine can be confusing as may be easy to either get a head or fall behind.

The other side of this not many names on the list other than Gronk and Kelsey. Finding that guy is very hard. There were if I recall either 5 or 6 TE's drafted before Knox, not one of them is still on the team that drafted him, one is now in the Arena League. Gronk was drafted in2nd round, Kelce 3rd, and Kittle 5th. Tells me very difficult to predict who that next TE superstar will be. Kincaid certainly has everything you need on paper but will it work out, hopefully it will. He isn't the typical TE type so that is in his favor. I'm fine with the pick, but this whole argument of how we need the star TE IMO is overblown as they are near impossible to find. So not so sure it's worth trying for. Hopefully he's the next big star, but if so likely will be due to not being a conventional TE

Why not make it easier and call it the 4 D's or D Cubed; Diggs, Davis, Dalton, and Dawson Actually when I first saw the title of the post, the two TE's was who I assumed you were referring to and the "KK" part was in reference to the original K Gun offense, but now have two players.

I tried to vote for all 3 choices, but it wouldn't let me. Depends who's available, if moving up 3 or 4 slots could gets us the LB Sanders, then worth it or for similar player. But moving back could be good too if no one there that the team wants.

It sounded like last year they agreed on some number, maybe not on what was signed today and most of the details, from what I recall reading the hangup was the fully guaranteed part.

It sounded like last year already Ravens and Jackson had agreed on overall numbers, issue was Jackson wanted fully guaranteed and Ravens said no. That was the hold up.

Probably not missing anything. It's just a fact of life that every new deal signed for anybody better than a decent QB in particular sets the bar to a new height. Has the guy with Chargers signed yet? Likely he'll be higher yet.

So you somehow know they haven't tried to extend him or try to trade him? Oliver isn't playing terrible, just not at the leve lof play the #8 overall pick should be at. Are you suggesting the Bills should over pay him and sign him to a long term deal just to not lose him? Unfortunately to date Oliver has followed the same script as Edmund's and hasn't lived up to his draft spot so the Bills either can over pay him based on level of play to get him signed or hope Oliver realizes he's not worth that much and sign for a likely a lower amount that the Bills have offered which rarely ever happens. He'll bet on himself having a big year and if he doesn't he's still likely no worse off than if he were to sign a lower offer from the Bills now. The 3rd option is to try and trade him, but if he's not playing up to his level of play the number of teams willing to take on a $10 mil contract gets real small. I'm sure some team may offer a very low draft pick for him, but you've then created a fairly large hole in your defense for 2023. It's not very likely a 5th or 6th rounder you may get in return will play as well as Oliver in 2023. Overall since the team is in a win now mode, even if they get nothing for him at the end of this season, it's probably the best option.

Anybody but a TE. I'd favor WR in the 1st. I say no to TE for 3 reasons; First they have Dawson, he's a good to a little better than average TE. You want to put a 2nd blocking TE out there for some plays fine, but don't need to use a 1st round pick for that. The Bills don't have a noddle armed QB. Allen can easily throw a 20 yard out, so IMO better to be throwing it to a WR and better to line line up with 3 WR and 1 TE than 2 and 2. On occasion throwing two TE's out there is fine but again don't need to use a 1st round pick for that. Last and most important, IMO TE is the 2nd toughest position to project success in college to the NFL. QB being #1. There were 5 TE's selected prior to Knox in the 3rd round, not one of them is still with the team that drafted them. One is playing in Arena league. It is just too hard to project who will really be good. Kelce and Kittle were both drafted lower than Knox, Gronk was taken in 2nd. So to my point, just too hard to project how great college TE's will turn out in pro's, much harder than other positions it seems and the Kittles, Kelce, and Gronks are just too few and far between. For those wanting a TE in round 1, don't blame Beane in 4 years if the guy bombs out, blame it on desire to take a TE in 1st. Probably safer to pick TE lower.

If they're asking for a 2nd, likely could get it down to a 3rd and maybe throw in a 5th or something. Recall reading a month or 2 back that after some other WR was traded, don't recall who, Cardinals price likely dropped.

Fixed it for you. If they cut him his entire $10 mil is guaranteed so zero saving. Only option is to trade him. Now you need to find a team that thinks he's worth $10 mil or somehow is a better fit in their defense or has a big hole in their D line and feels that's the one thing they need to go deep in playoffs. Which ironically if they trade Oliver, is exactly where the Bills are left with a big hole in the middle of their D line. No one here seems to think he's worth $10 mil so why will other teams. Someone above mentioned the Brock Osweiler trade where Texans sent draft picks along with him to Cleveland. Likely would need to do something like that to get a taker. But the Bills only have 6 picks to start with, if they give some up to get Hopkins, then possibly giving up a pick to dump Oliver, just can't see that happening either. Don't know much about Cardinals defense if they need help at DT and how they are money wise if they could even afford it, but maybe a trade of Oliver, plus a 2nd or 3rd in both 2023 and 2024 for Hopkins may entice Cardinals to agree to it?? If true that Cardinals could potentially cut him, at least this way they are getting more in return. Bills through in extra pick to take on Oliver's salary and Cardinals get a good player, just not a player truly worth $10 mil

To me this is the problem with taking a RB in round 1. This also tell me if the averages are so low for RB, it likely means that even the ones that do make it to a 2nd contract, never play to see the end of it, so no have all this dead cap. Add to that using a 1st round pick on a player that has the shortest career length doesn't seem to make much sense to me.

There's history there with the Lions and gambling, Alex Karras was suspended in 1963 for entire season for gambling.

He also is a rocket scientist. Imagine if the Bills had one of those on their staff! The heights the team could reach.

Yeah the problem is " The word on the street" that he refers to was kind of started by him. So now when it filters back to him it becomes the word!

When Bledsoe arrived, the first half of his 1st season, he was great, then we played NE and he looked very bad. Maybe it was a fluke, butthen played NE 2nd time late in year and Belichick again made him look terrible. After that starting in year 2, teams knew how to defend Bledsoe and never looked all that good after that point. When he came to Buffalo the other team in the running was the Bengals, but Bledsoe preferred Buffalo so he ended up here. The way schedules work out you only play other teams in conference every 3 years except team who ends in same standing position. I recall couple years afterwards looking at the schedules and NE did not play the Bengals for the first 3 years he was in Buffalo. I always wondered though if he had gone to Bengals, would he have looked much better as wouldn't have been subject to Belichick exposing his weaknesses. You can argue other team would have figured it out, but for the first 8 to 10 games in Buffalo, no one else could stop him very much.

I agree but got responses stating, no it was Whaleys draft. McD even had a press conference stating Whaley did all the work so that proves it. But my take is take that with a grain of salt as talk is cheap! There was a post a month or 2 ago showing that in the past 4 to 5 years the Bills used as many draft picks on offensive players as defense. I do think the OP's thinking in some cases was a bit flawed, but still showed not a huge difference in number of players selected.