Ed_Formerly_of_Roch

I think that's a good way to put it; "Whaley's scouting department that did the work and set up their draft board". But after that think McD had much more to do with it.

Hyde and Poyer weren't draft picks. In spite of some of the conspiracy theories around, Beane had nothing to do with the 2017 draft. But also don't believe it was Whaley's call either on whom to select. Sure McD publicly stated Whaley ran the the draft and free agency. But that could very easily mean Whaley did all the selections, but only after McD told him whom he wanted. Maybe WRT free agents, Whaley handled the financial side of it and took care of the negotiations. But he was effectively reporting to McD.

Agree I wouldn't give Whaley credit for White, but if you were giving him credit for that pick, would think then Milano also should be under Whaley as he'd rank in his top 5. When you remove Beane's pick of Allen, you really need to recognize that he gave up draft picks in order to move up. Without Allen Beane would have had some higher picks, even if only half of them were highly rated players, likely his grade would have been higher. Does this formula somehow take into account he traded a 1st round pick for Diggs, again depriving himself of maybe another good player. Bottom line IMO to be fair, you need to look at his actual number and not remove Allen from the equation as that pick factored in other ways top his total score.

I am somewhat optimistic on his return only because of the fact that until he had the surgery, no one knew he had a torn ACL. Makes me wonder if it wasn't as bad as some are

One of things I'd read in an article was that McD stated he didn't want to draft a QB in 2017 as he hadn't had time to study them enough. Until Jan 2017 4 months prior to the draft he didn't know he'd even be a head coach and all his focus to that point was on the defensive side with Carolina. Yes that still gave him 4 months to study things, but likely those 4 months were spend putting together a staff, etc. Likely many things a brand new HC needed to do. Also if he had drafted Mahomes or someone else, he'd be going off the scouting reports of a group of people he likely knew little about and off the scouting reports of a team that hadn't done that great and had drafted M Darious and gave up alot to move up in the draft for Watkins. Would you have wanted to put much faith in them?

Even without Hopkins, not sure WR is a bigger hole right now overall than MLB unless as some comments have been made they plan to play with Rapp and Johnson both on the field and just on LB, Milano. Yes they can make the numbers work out if they want to. But it's a question of how much they want kick down the road for a player who last season was suspended BTW so has to be some concern as to if he'll be a repeat offender. Add to that they've already kicked a number of other contracts down the road too. But you lead with they shouldn't have signed all these other mid tier players, but as BillsFan stated, they had 24 FA so need to sign someone. Adding instead 24 FA rookies or even half than number isn't going to make this team better overall as taking on the Hopkins contract even close to the existing numbers likely would require that. Plus we also don't know what KC is actually asking. Can't recall who it was, but 4 or 5 weeks ago, maybe it was even before free agency started some other WR was traded and the comment was based on that, the Cardinals price also will go down. But maybe the Cardinals don't see it that way.

I'd be against a TE in 1st round for two reasons First they have Knox as TE1. Playing 2 TE's makes more sense when you have a noodle armed QB who can't easily beat the defense when throwing 15 to 20 yard passes. Allen can do that so overall think the team is better when playing with 3 WR's. You want a 2nd TE for blocking purposes who is still a threat to catch a pass, that's fine, but don't need to use a 1st round draft pick for that. Second reason is IMO of all the positions on the football field TE is the toughest to predict who will actually become a good or great player. There were believe 5 TE's all drafted before Dawson Knox, not one of them is still with the team that drafted him, one is in the Arena League. Kelce was drafted in 3rd round, Kittle 5th round, Gronk 2nd round. Seems like using a 1st round pick on a TE is a huge risk.

Are you kidding? It was all over Reddit.

Yes, this was the article I saw it in.

Can't recall where I read it, but Kim's daughter commented the other day that she's doing better.

Higher needs at MLB and WR. At this point, barring injury not likely a lineman would even be starting so maybe they trade down and get an extra 2nd round pick, then ok, but even then, safety would probably still rank as a higher need.

Brady did it for so much longer period of time. Granted the rule changes made it easier for him to last. I can recall Montana also having some bad games in the playoffs in years they didn't make it to the SB. There was no free agency back then, Montana won all those years with more of the same roster and star players around him. Brady won with complete roster turnover though out the years and probably with a handful of exceptions less superstar talent around him .

I'll assume there won't be all the wheeling and dealing like what went on with DTV. Would be kind of hard as not really anyone to talk to with YTTV I wonder if there will always be a nearly bird sign up discount in future years.

You can select anything that is on any channel within You Tube, then choose to add it to your library and it will record every showing whether new or reruns. But does list them in date shown so newest is to the top. It has no limit to what you can record, somewhere after 6 to 9 months they get deleted. Or you can choose to remove show from library and they are then all gone. You get a choice of two showings, one kin d of "on demand" that includes commercials and second one on local network that you can fast forward thru commercials. Why you'd use the "on demand" have no idea, unless you just love the commercials. The main reason I got You Tube is I have two houses in two different states so only need to pay for one service and watch things in whichever location I'm at. There are some limitations when not in home network, you often have to wait 24 hours to watch something you recorded. You can watch it live or wait a day. Overall I like it, but guide is more pain if you want to see what's on TV 2 days from now. Also not as smooth to fast forward or rewind as my TIVO only that you can't go to a specific second, everything is in 15 second increments. Otherwise no big issues OK thought maybe you already knew a way to do this. I do believe there are more options using the You Tube guide when logged in on computer than when watching through TV, little easier to do things.

So is there an easy way with the guide to see what's on TV say on Friday night?? I have You Tube mainly for sports channels and do plan to get ST. But also have a TIVO with antenna for local network channels and their guide seems to be much easier to use than You Tube if I want to see what's on say 5 days from now. Or am I missing something? Do wonder as a You Tube subscriber will they be sending me an email about it to sign up? Recall when MLB offered their one team only package, the difference between that and the full package was like maybe 10% cheaper, so little wasn't worth it.

Fixed it for you! I can see either LB or WR in round 1

Are you even allowed to do that? Decline giving the 5th year option to a player, then turn around and tag him? Has that actually been done with any 1st round draft pick rookies? Don't recall ever hearing or reading names?? I'd have thought that would be something the CBA would have disallowed for the exact reasons you want to do it.

Or better chance he trades down than up.

Ed Oliver is a good player, just not nearly as good as the #8 overall pick should be and not as good as typically the #8 overall pick is paid. Then again how much should the #8 overall player be paid on a 2nd contract as likely every pick in the draft has many clunkers over the years so really hard to say how much that draft position is worth for 2nd contract. Likely if Ed had played at the level of these others, he would have been offered a 2nd contract at least a year ago if not more and likely would have signed it too as most do. Bills could have back loaded it and been easily able to afford it. But like Edmunds this past year, the Bills didn't offer a contract at least not at the level he wanted, so nothing was signed. Edmunds did have a better 5th year, likely is he had played at that same level in year 3 and 4, he'd have been offered a better deal back then and again would have signed it and they could have afforded it. Also makes me nervous whenever a player has his significantly better season in a contract year. I do think when players are given the 5th year tender but then no long term extension is worked out, the player has a chip on his shoulder against current team and more often goes elsewhere. For those reasons, if Oliver does play really well this coming year, I'll be surprised if Bills can then work out a long term contract with him

In yesterdays Athletic Joe B had a "mailbag" article and someone suggested similar. (maybe it was Tipster) Joe's response was he thought unlikely because Bills don't have many draft picks this year to begin with and Beane has never traded a pick from the following years draft, not even for Allen just to move up in current draft. In answering another question, he also feels barring something very strange happening both Beane and McD are completely safe for next year too. The only one he feels the heat is on in 2023 is Dorsey.

You want to get a good blocking TE who doesn't have hands of stone, that's fine and can help. But wouldn't spend a day 1 or day 2 draft pick on that guy either. Knox is an above average TE. If it were easy to find Kelce and Kittle types every team would have one, but they don't. Knox and the guy on Atlanta may be the closest to them. To me a great TE is more important when you have a noodle armed QB which we don't. To lazy to look this up but I'm guessing the average yards per completion for a WR is longer than for a TE. So again when you have the QB that get the WR the ball, no need to mess around.

This guy can't be a rookie, he looks like he's around 35!

A safety is worth 2 points!

Talk about assumptions! Are you Flemings agent, his mother?? Otherwise how do you know what he'll sign for? 1$.1 mil for 1 year is called an assumption Sir. And much bigger than what mrags stated. The number you throw out may very likely be correct, but right now is just an assumption As rags stated, Beane has stated repeatedly they are happy with Brown and felt due to injuries and other factors, they have faith in him. That has been publicly stated by Beane. 2+2= 4 that's not an assumption! Could they still bring someone in, maybe Fleming. Yes but as Rags is trying to tell you, but you don't want to listen, good chance it will not be high level of competition if anyone.

My wording wasn't the best. I was more thinking about the bad posts he got in response to articles in the press. They certainly weren't to kind to him WRT his behavior. That in turn caused many of the bad posts. But I do believe he was more bothered by what was written about him in the press than posts. Actually he did respond on Twitter so while not this site apparently he does pay attention to what the fans say about him. So then maybe he is an idiot who doesn't have better things to do?? He does strike me as the type more bothered by unqualified criticism than some are,