Ed_Formerly_of_Roch

Agree you have to protect him, but there has to also be actual roster spots for the player you draft. I've seen threads stating the Bills should draft 5 lineman. If they do, come September, they are either cutting two or three or having all the backups be rookies, both of which would be very poor ideas. You have likely one opening at guard, two if Morse were to retire. If that were to happen, I'd fill one spot with a good FA vet signing and one with a rookie and also draft one more rookie as a backup and to potentially start in 2024. I'd draft them fairly high, either 2 and 3 or 2 and 4 so are getting someone who should become a solid player. The other three spots Bates, Brown, and Dawkins likely will be the same in 2023, and even if you want to make a change, replacing any of them with a rookie, plus a rookie in another spot isn't likely going to make the line better in the near future. That may be the best answer for 2025, but not in the near term which can't be over looked either.

Recall with about a minute left in the Bills Giants SB, Kelly took a shot, bad enough he had to call a TO. Likely today he'd have been pulled from the game. Also thought without that hit Bills may have won the game as would have one more TO left at end, likely could have gained a fair amount more yards and maybe kick would have been good. Wonder if they could install accelerators in players helmets. Determine some type of value, if reading exceeds value, tape is reviewed and if player actually hit head on play, he's pulled at a minimum for evaluation and maybe above some value or if second time concussed he's out of game??

They may make the qualifying offer, but not match. With White plus two rookies Elam and Benford that look real good, Jackson becomes more a luxury for a team that doesn't have much money. True only been 3 years for Jackson, but only 1 for the other two and in one season have looked almost as good, sometimes even better than Jackson. Jackson has just been a bit too erratic at times it seems. When talent level is close, teams tend to go with the cheaper option. He could back, but likely only if he finds he's not worth as much as he may think he is and accepts a team friendly deal from Bills. But this is likely Jackson's best chance at getting a big contract, so likely he gets it elsewhere. I kind of see him in similar mode to Lawson and Phillips, contract ran out, gets big deal elsewhere, in 2 years back to Buffalo.

They've played well, but I don't feel Singletary is the perfect complement to Cook as somewhat similar. Even Hines is somewhat the same. I'd rather see them get a more power bruising type back, like Moss!! LOL Do think that type of player would be better match with Cook IMO

I'll bet if you looked at the top 6 teams in the league you'd find a similar thing. different positions, but either young guys who didn't improve as much as hoped for or aging vets at some positions I like your draft selections too. I think WR is bigger need than line as Bills are a passing team. As weak as the line has looked at times they really only have one starting spot open as they are not giving up on Brown who has only played 2 seasons and had no training camp or pre season due to recovering from injury. They may bring in some competition at tackle, but is his job to lose. If Morse retires, then could see them more likely bringing in a vet guard or center short term and draft center guard, but could see them moving Bates to center for 2023.

True but the way I see it the Bills lost to Miami at the point in the season when they were playing best and the very next week Bengals beat them. Bills beat Miami at the point where they've lost 4 straight. And that Titans win and to a lesser degree the Jet game doesn't look all that good these days. If the Bills can revert to their early season offense, I'd feel much better about Monday. I just feel Bengals offense of late is looking more solid than Bills and have more weapons. Is that true over the past 6 or 7 games?

Not sure how you count, but two games were by three points, and two others 8 points which is a TD and 2 pt conversion away from a tie. The two games that they won by more were still close till close to the end so Bills games have been just as close IMO. Bengals beat Miami when they were playing at their best and Chiefs are 2 good wins by them, rest of their wins were against teams not playing that well. Then again could make the same argument about the Bills and who they've beaten and who they lost to. If the Bills offense was playing now like they were the first 5 or 6 weeks of season, I wouldn't be too worried, but right now Bengals offense seems to be clicking better than Bills at least from the eye ball test.

If Miami does try to jump back into QB race in 2024, they likely will still be too good of a team in 2023 to have a good draft position in 24. Be shocked if they are drafting in top 15 less a trade and even with a trade, it would have to be like 2 or 3 #1 picks or maybe throw in Waddle or Phillips to get to say the top 2 or 3 in the draft. Unless they get real lucky and find someone who doesn't look that good and falls way down in the draft, they may still have trouble finding that guy. do agree think they will give Tua another year and try to figure out what else they can put around him. Without that 7th round draft pick, think the Bills will struggle mightily to improve next year!

Don't disagree with anything you say except it hasn't stopped them yet from expanding to the current 32.

Maybe except Bates didn't play last week and they ran well when VanRoten moved over to center. So could ask are they a better running team when Morse isn't playing center?? But most accounts feel Morse has been the best lineman all season??

So here's a crazy thought... maybe.... Are the Bills a better running team when VanRoten is playing? Played all game and ran the best they have all season. Last week played in the 4th quarter when ran real well too.

Maybe they are all staying over at Marv's place tonight?

With the temps the way they are, will Erie be frozen by tomorrow?

I have Allen and Bass too. If Allan can't pass, he can still get points running. Weather doesn't sound that bad either

Are there even going to be many people there to throw them? With a 3-10 team out of the playoffs, game on Christmas eve, then throw in the weather, can't imagine that many Bear fans would even go.

I do find it kind of amazing how so many people today don't seem to know what an antenna even is! And that they actually work. My main TV reception is an antenna mounted inside my screened in porch distributed 4 TV's and TIVO which is also distributed to minis in the same 4 rooms via ethernet. Then have You Tube TV for special cable channels, ESPN, NFL, etc. to all TV's Will be ready for next year for ST

This season agree, past couple not so much. NE last year was decent, but probably not quite as good as their record appeared.

Damm Weather! To the point of "eat your heart out Tom Brady". I do wonder what Brady's record was as just as Allen has gone up against a weak AFC east, so did Brady over the years. Actually his record against he Bills was 33-3, 9032 yards, 32 TD, 25 Int's

Certainly agree long term, but think they felt the team would be in strong contention for the next year or two. But the wheels came off fast.

I was on one of them too. Flight was extremely smooth all the way from Atlanta to Vegas, till about the last 20 minutes on decent. Thought the one wing tip was going to hit the runway as we touched down. My wife was the opposite, she thought the entire flight was smooth, when I mentioned something about the landing she was like what are you talking about. I do wonder how the Bills will get back to Buffalo as heard the airport is closed till Sunday evening.

Agree I was just listing the top 3 picks, my point was 1 and 3 were busts. I'll go back and edit to clarify that! Agree I was just listing the top 3 picks, my point was 1 and 3 were busts. I'll go back and edit to clarify that!

Not sure there is a state in the county large enough to build a monument for all the bust QB's in the NFL! Look at the first three picks in 1999 draft alone: Tim Couch, McNabb (great pick), Akili Smith. The Bengals could probably almost have their own monument when you add Smith 3rd overall, David Klinger 6th overall, and Jack Thomson 3rd overall

so for that to be true, they needed to beat the Bills next week and KC loses another game, but even then it would be a 3 way tie for best record so could come down to record in common games which appears Bengals would be 2-0 and Bills 1-1 and Chiefs 0-2 But overall think a better chance of Titans Jags being the game

Likely will either be Titans - Jags or Bengals - Ravens. Good chance Titans lose to Cowgirls so could be dead even going into last game, but if we beat Bengals same thing in North, though both teams would still make playoffs. Think they like it too if the night game mixes up all the playoff matchups too as loser of that game could end up anywhere from 5th to 7th seed especially if loser is Ravens. Where as Jags Titans, loser goes home.

Too often DTV service went out whenever weather was bad. And then there's the price. If I could have got ST without, DTV over sat, would have stuck with them. At least prior to ATT takeover DTV was more willing to deal and give you good offers. But think once ATT was in charge they told them you can't keep giving it away like you were. Which is why they didn't even really want it anymore as ATT has realized it's a financial loser.