Ed_Formerly_of_Roch

If that's really true, then this team is really in trouble. There was an article just the other days showing that in drafts with over 5 QB's taken in first round, 33% turned out to be franchise QB's, 38% were busts or close to it. so if you only have a 1 in 3 shot at finding the right guy, to be fired over making the wrong choice is crazy. I truly believe TP doesn't like constant change, so the front office will stick around as long as he sees overall improvement in the roster. If every position on the team is improved except stil ldon't have the QB right, will be given more chances to figure it out.

Kind of interesting that people who do this for a living and are not actual fans so are more objective don't see it that way Mark Gaughan analyzes the Bills' offensive line continuity, which ranked near the top of the league last season but could be disrupted by the retirement of Eric Wood. I don't disagree with your overall thought, that yes the Bills weren't able to fill their other areas of need thru FA due to lack of money so giving up alot of picks now would still leave them overall weak. If the Bills can trade up and still keep 4 of their top 7 picks (I'm including next years 1st round pick) I'd be OK with moving up as could still fill enough other holes, but doubt you can do that and move up to #2. That may get you to #5 or lower. There was an article the other day on BN that showed of all the past 30 or so draft classes with multiple top QB picks, only around 33% panned out to be franchise level QB's and 38% were either busts or not much better than that, so again hate to give up all that draft capital for a 1 in 3 shot of success. I do recall one time a quote from Marv Levy "Free agents typically hurt the team they are leaving more than they help the team they are going too"

Two things have to happen for Mayfield to drop down to the Bills, 1st I do think though the Bills would have to jump ahead of Miami as doubt they'd pass on him If they could jump up to 9 or 10 with 49er's or Oakland, t2nd thing the Giants pass on a QB, if that happens likely one of the top four will drop and could see Buffalo getting one of the top 4 down around #9 or 10 pick or so.

How can someone write a post that anyone would take seriously when he's not even smart enough to understand the difference between fact an opinion?

If the Giants plan to take a QB, really doubt they'd want to select after their rival Jets and be accused for years to come of getting the Jets leftovers. On the other hand they'd love to be in the position of taking the guy the Jets were rumored to want.

Think if you're going to go up to #2, can happen early and maybe the early the better so no other team can beat you to it. If lower than #2 then wait till on the clock to make sure guy you want is still there.

Those aren't excuses, they are facts 100 less completions than in 2014. He led the NCAA in catches so seems he can catch. Lets see what he can do if we have a QB who actually throws to WR

Yes 1 catch per game is alot, however the Bills also had 100 more completions as a team in 2014 so when you have a QB who doesn't want to throw to WR to begin with (TT 263 completions around half to RB and TE) and 100 less completions total, amazed that he even had 27 catches.

Woods had 40 catches his rookie year, that's not that much more productive than 27, particularly when factoring you have a QB that only threw half his passes to WR I do think WR is one of the toughest positions for rookies to look good at as regardless of your talents, you have to be in sync with the QB. Did he drop a number of pass's sure, especially early in the year. But lets give him a couple more years.

I wouldn't call 50 to 60% success rate that great. If the Bills owned a top 5 pick and used it on a QB and failed wouldn'r be so bad, but likely they'll end up trading other picks that could be used to solidify other positions too. So if you emd up[ failing and give away other picks, that 50% success rate looks much worse.

How can the # 53 pick be worth 340 points and a 2019 2nd round pick be worth 700 points? I've read too over the years that to you need to de-value draft picks for one year out by one round. Trading now for say the Bills 2019 1st round pick since they have the #12 pick overall would only be worth the points given to the 12th pick in the 2nd round. The problem too I see with your whole concept is when buying good as compare too, there are plenty of auctions to go to. So you don't overpay at the one this week, maybe next weeks auction is on a rainy day so not many people show up and you get a better deal. Different auctions, different attendees, and other variables. Here same group of people and same bidders all the time. So you're more at the mercy of the people selling or you'll continue to go home empty handed. That may be the better option than over paying, but not if you really need a specific item.

LOL Guarantee he will report by week 10 or is it 11 to get credit for the year. If I were an owner in the next CBA that would be one of the things I'd push back on, Change it to week 5 report or you're out for the year. Or even week 1, the NFL season is a full time thing these days, so you need to be here from day 1 or the year doesn't count. I'd offer them is, OK we'll no longer have Roger be judge and jury, but you need ot report week 1 to get credit for the season.

So who is that guy?? This year we have about 5 guys back in August who were all the next Jared Goff or better. Now there a 5 guys all with question marks for different reasons. Any of them could be him, but willing to bet at least two will be compared to Ryan Leaf in less than 5 years.

Or trade back for another #1 pick next year. And try and make the trade with a team likely to not do to well so it's a decent pick.

If the Giants draft Barkley, assuming OBJ is back healthy, they've improved the Oline even a half way decent season from ELI would likely give them 4 to 5 wins for the next two season if not better, enough wins to almost certainly not be drafting in the top 5 and maybe not even the top 10. So this may be their best chance to get the heir to Eli now, and let him sit for a the season regardless of how good or bad the team does. Likely picking a QB this year to sit, overall the team won't have the strong running game, struggle somewhat and still have a top 10 pick next year. Plus could trade Eli next year even wit ha poor year maybe get a 3rd for him, and with a decent to good year maybe a low 1st round pick. So would have plenty of draft picks next year to further improve the team. With a new 1st year coach and GM, the pressure isn't as much to win now. If I were the Giants GM, I'd think long and hard about NOT drafting the QB now while I have a great pick to get almost whomever I want.

I was tempted to go to a Jets message board and read what their fans are saying, but I'm betting many are ripping them for the very reason, now that they tipped their hand easy for us to go around them.

The real idiot is the one who voted yes

Yeah but the Browns still have the #4 pick so they could get the 3rd QB off the board, there was a rumor they wanted Allen, so they made the trade with Buffalo and part of the trade is we don't take Allan and give them our 2 first rounds plus additional. That gives the Browns a QB at 4 plus 12 and 22. Or take the Browns 4th pick you're still getting the 3rd highest ranked QB which every day of the week it's a different person anyway ranked highest.

How so, if we had traded for the #3 pick, the Jet's could have still jumped ahead to #2. So now you know where you need to go ,or if you feel there's little difference in the top 3 or 4 QB choices, then go up to #4 for less draft capital.

Funny though I was on some other site earlier and listed the Bills as one of the losers. But was pretty inaccurate as mentioned how they didn't do anything to secure a backup for McCoy. Guess this guy didn't know they signed Ivory. https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/8-teams-that-lost-in-free-agency/ar-BBKgMav?li=BBnba9I

Could be the Bills have made offers very close to what they'e got from other teams so they are trying to get a little more someplace else and then bring that to the Bills to match. And at the same time Buffalo has probably given them a deadline or they are moving on to option B or C And BTW, why does everyone suddenly want EJ Manual back anyway??

So what happened earlier in the day there were reports we had signed Derek Anderson, were they false? Or did we sign two QB's yesterday?

Can't see the Giants trading out of two not knowing who Cleveland is taking. If Cleveland takes Barkley, then Giants would probably want to make trade, but if Cleveland takes QB, then would think the Giants would want to stay put.

Have to wonder to, does someone like a McCoy post things like this just to have everyone go nuts and they can then read all the posts and laugh about these idiots who bite on everything.

And be a member for at least 30 or 60 days to even reply to a post. And maybe 6 month membership and 100 replies before starting a new thread.