Ed_Formerly_of_Roch

Certainly agree with you in the "seasons to follow part". Edmunds is still only 20, other new and less experienced guys too. Long term, 2019 will be solid, this year can see some growing pains unless Edmunds really comes on fast, but his age does make me worry a bit that will still take him a year or so to adjust to the size and speed around him.

It does vindicate the Bills FO too from the point of all these people who were screaming for the Bills to make a trade too back in March, they gave up less and still likely got who they wanted. If they had say traded up to #2, would they have taken Darnold, or still taken Allen? Cleveland did help them out by not taking Chubb allowing them to trade up lower.

Think what made things go downhill was RW hiring Marv as the GM. Don't think Marv really wanted the job, he left in a couple of years leaving RB as the next GM. Don't think he really wanted the job either. With both of them think the biggest issue was they others make the decisions and just try sand get a consensus. With RB may have been a case if the choice worked out, he'd take the credit, if it failed, he'd be able to blame others.

The problem I see with this deal is highly unlikely Cleveland would trade the #4 overall for White. you'd likely have to give up at least one of the 2nd rounders if not maybe also a 3rd.

Agreed comparing Unitas to EJ would be stupid, (gee look who thought of that one) The game hasn't changed that much from 97 to now to say it's a stupid comparison. I understand when someone doesn't see things your way stupid people don't know what to say.

I'd agree with Washington from your original list or Kyle Williams, one of them likely will be gone as they just have too many DT on roster doubt Shaq will go as he's cheap labor, on the other hand Lorax could be gone due to salary. Maybe Holmes and/or Ducasse too I'd agree with.

Makes you wonder, lets assume he turns out to be a pro-bowl type of player. 3 years from now, will you say the Bills (or insert any other team name here for different player ) were smart or lucky. Smart in that they waited until the 4th round to pick him knowing he wouldn't be picked earlier, do teams have good intel to know when player will be selected? Or just lucky that they got him and he turned out great. If you really knew he was going to be great, why take a chance on waiting until the 4th round when someone else may grab him first. Was NE really smart in 2001 drafting Brady in round 6 or just lucky no one else took him prior?

Exactly how many did he drop that hit him in the hands? Yes he did drop some thrown right at him, but TT did nothing to help him or any WR by often throwing passes that are hard to catch and just not throwing much to WR in general. Lets put it this way playing with TT didn't help him any. Moulds 32 receptions for 342 0 TD Jones 27receptions for 316 2 TD Not much different between the two

didn't someone famous do that a year or so back, replied to his own post, maybe in twitter was it??

Little data?? I'd think that he was one of the top college WR would equal or trump one year with the Bills with a QB who didn't throw much to WR and when he did oftne wasn't that accurate either. Granted he did drop a fair amount particularly early in the season. But hard to explain how a guy could have 158 catches in one season in college and now feel that he has bad hands. It could be his speed doesn't translate to the NFL, but hard to forget how to catch the ball. I recall Eric Moulds didn't do a whole lot until around his 3rd year and fans were calling him abust, give him some time.

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Think you're giving him way too much credit there!

I think it may simply be due to Pegula realizing he made mistakes early on in not listening enough to his technical experts in the filed. i.e. his football folks. Before Pegula was here, may have been that Brandon had a bigger say in hiring Marrone than Whaley did and seemed like it was repeated again with Rex as was rumored neither time was Whaley's top choice. May have been partly Whaleys own un-doing by not standing up and saying strongly No I don't want this guy, but maybe he's of the mind set, well I'll figure out how to work with him. But anyway think TP finally figured out to let his football people figure out things that are needed for the football business and he (and Kim) stays out of it. I also think TP wants continuity so will give these guys time. People are already saying if Allan is a bust, he'll be fired, if thta is the case, then there's no hope for TP as the success rate for QB's is 50% if you're lucky. I think as long as overall the team improves, he'd get at least a 2nd shot at getting another QB.

I heard a Sal Pal interview that kind of went along with these thoughts too.

Problem was Russ didn't like all the clapping. He told McD he needed to wear mittens! Things went downhill from there.

Makes you wonder how much overall is known as to who likely will be picked by another team. Maybe not always correct, but do teams know say 75% of the time who another team is likely going to select??

I could listen to Kim talk all day and night too! (even if she talks in her sleep) Seriously, Do we have the hottest looking owner in the league?

Yes but first of fa gym teacher teaches gym all the time, likely goes to cynics, training, etc. so again they know more about teaching gym than a fan would. And if a fan knew so much they'd be doing it professionally, or at a minimum working for ESPN or some other media outlet where again they'd have access to many resources the average fan doesn't get to experience. Even Mel Kyper, love him or hate him has way more access to things that are really going on than 99% of the posters here do. The 1% are the people that write columns who do post here, but they rarely state things as facts when all it really is an opinion. It's fine to say hey I don't like the pick or I think they panicked, but when presented as facts when nothing is really known shows ignorance. Whatever the occupation may be, when people who don't do that task full time think they know more than people who do this for a living it just again shows their ignorance.

Huh?? I could understand if you were complaining that they gave up to much in the Allan trade, but for the Edmunds trade according to the chart, they gave up 1045 point to gain 1030 points. So 15 points is too much for you?? LOL And yet people were screaming the Bills should have traded up to #2. One things I'm pretty certain of that would have taken even more picks.

The other important factor is you have to have what I call a landing spot for a player you're going to pick, in other words don't draft someone for a position where it's unlikely to have a roster spot for him to fill, else it becomes a wasted pick. When I look at the Bills O-line last year, I saw 3 well above average players in Woods, Richie, and Glenn when he was healthy, all three now gone, replaced with journeymen type players. While these guys may be fine this year as a unit, not sure they are strong enough to support a mid round rookie playing next to them. Like Last year, the unit could hold up with Dawkins out there making mistakes early on and let him grow. They now do have one rookie, but rather see them sign another June 1st vet for depth, next year, assuming Dawkins continues to improve, they'd have the money to sign one or even two star O-line players, then can afford to also sign and play a rookie next to them, and they can sign 1st or 2nd round lineman too. Carp, sure that's fine, but to hear these people go one stating how the FO are idiots and don't know anything and what a terrible pick it was is pretty funny. I feel I know as much about these players the Bills drafted as about 99% of the people here on this site and that is absolutely nothing and neither does anyone else when compared to the amount of knowledge people actually working in the business know.

It doesn't work because the Bills didn't think he was the better player. Unfortunately for you, the Bills didn't think your opinion counts very much. Pretty simple actually sorry you couldn't figure that out.

Well they certainly aren't as smart as you are!

My thoughts are you're just so much smarter than people who do this for a living professionally. You no way more!

wow six games, I'm certain that's much more tape than all the NFL scouts watched together. You are the expert!

No matter which QB they selected, you could have just as many negative comments posted this morning about, just all for different reasons. As Sean Peyton said a couple weeks back, there are no Andrew Lucks or Carson Wentz in this draft. They were all flawed, so the Bills went with certain flaws over other ones. Are there risks sure, but he also may have the most upside of all of them. I just listened to Sal Pal strongly question if Sam Darnold will work out, he has his doubts. Meanwhile Mel Kiper had Allen rated as best QB, but CBS sports ranked him #56 overall. so no one knows including all the people here who think they know so much more than people who do this for a living.