Ed_Formerly_of_Roch

Even based on old rules, where is the ball the instant your body contacts the ground, that determines ball placement. The new slide rules potentially can bring the ball back further, but either way ball can't go beyond position once contacting ground.

Yes watched it If you think that was a no brainer over turn, you better get your eyes checked. There has to be conclusive evidence to over turn. Way to close to overturn, in fact I'd argue they made the correct all based on where the ball was when he first contacted to ground.

That's not working very well tonight either as guess most of these "freedom fighters" who broadcast figured out this game isn't worth watching. Only found about two streams and they were all gummed up with overlays. I've noticed if there's a stream on Reddit that's titled "NFL Gamepass" those threads work the best, but again none tonight.

Did you want McD to challenge just for the sake of challenging? From what I saw, there was no way that call would have ever been over turned. If they had initially ruled it a 1st down that call too would have stuck as there was no conclusive evidence to overturn either way. The TV broadcast showed the replay and stopped the replay to show how close it was as the ball was dead even with the sticks. The problem was from what I saw he actually contacted the ground about 5 frames ago and at that point was still extending the ball, but the ball also was still behind the line. That's what I saw, I could be wrong, but the fact that I feel I saw that is enough to say there wasn't enough evidence to overturn. You need to take off your Bills tinted sunglasses and watch things objectively.

I agree. My thinking to was if Peterman is going to start Wk 1, they'd have given Allan all he reps he could have this week. I was surprised somewhat that AJ did play as I also thought as a vet playing AJ tonight would have been beneath him. So also does make me think they are trying to showcase him for trade value

I'd suggest an eye exam! If he challenged never would have been over turned. Looking at the replay they showed Allan with the ball extended out even with the 1st down marker, but he had already touched the ground when they stopped the replay, you really needed to back up the replay a few frames and at that point, IMO the ball wasn't yet even with the marker. And even if you want to argue it was even, there was no way it was anywhere close enough to be conclusive to overturn. So then we could have posts why is McD wasting challenges on calls he should know will never be over turned.

And Woods and Goodwin were both gone before Beane got here. However thats' no excuse Beane still should have signed him, even though already gone.

If Peterman struggles then go with Allen. Struggles likely meant lost games, with the early schedule likely anyone could struggle with the overall team around him. At that point the season is likely lost anyway, so then give Allen the start. By then are thru the tough part of the schedule and he has learned something watching from the sideline too. On the other hand if your position is not to start Bridgewater week 1, likely be week 2 or 3 from the sounds of things AJ would be fine to go back to anyway, maybe even from game 1 from what we're hearing. Sounds like AJ would be available in much less time than it would take a new guy to learn the offense and be familiar with those around him. Overall with the injury settlement, plus guaranteed money, and then pay Bridgewater, it would likely cost more to bring him in so what is gained, appears nothing IMO

So you bring in Bridgewater a now week before season starts, no reps with players, doesn't know playbook, no prior work with coaching staff. And you think he'll be better than Peterman. Great idea if this was Madden football, then it work work fine!!

Yes but t hat doesn't change the fact that all you're doing is swapping out one backup for another. And two of them who when with the Bills could never even get on the field due to health issues. As someone pointed out yesterday, our issues aren't depth, it's the starting five. So don't see how this changes anything. You want to complain about play on the line, fine. But complaining about not keeping the two you mention is pretty laughable.

I realize the players don't want 18 games, but wonder if they've figured out how much taking the revenues away for those extra two pre-season games will lower the overall cap? I'm sure thye'd all say we care more about our health than the money.... until they no longer get the money.

He could have challenged it, but from what I saw very likely would never have been reversed. One of those plays not conclusive enough either way, in fact think it was more conclusive that he was short. When the knee hit the ground he was still short. Fox stopped the replay and looking at the replay you could easily argue the ball was even with the sticks, but IMO when they stopped the replay was after the knee was already down. If the replay was backed up a few frames to when the knee first hit, the ball was still short or at the very least too close to over turn.

So who brings more to the table? Getting Jack Nicklaus to show up for a few games or dating the owners daughter?? Since Kim turned me down, I'll go with keep Jack around. (though admittedly Croom seems much better of the two)

Agreed with you, When Woods got hurt and Groy filled in the last time at center was Cog already here or was that the year prior? Glenn also played pretty well that season too, before getting all nicked up.

Watkins would have been gone now with nothing at all in return. Dareus, agree better WHEN he fels like showing up. And hopefully doesn't get suspended again for something stupid that he does.

I think we far outplayed Caolina's 1st team.

And they didn't count on losing Cog after FA was basically over, and even Woods, admittedly they did have time to address that spot which they did with Bodine. So far hasn't worked too well. I'll wait for the real games to start though as can recall last pre-season people were saying the same thing. The first half of the season they were still shaky, but by Nov/Dec they were holding their own.

It's possible McD publicly states the competition is still ongoing so as not to let the Ravens know anything. But in all the closed practices which are most Allan is getting all the work. That may work for a few days, but eventually the truth will leak out, and then likely he'll announce thta they are going with Allen.

When you compare Allan to other young QB's today, he could be very good, good enough to lead a team deep into the playoffs by his 3rd season assuming he keeps improving at his current rate. KB could easily still be in his prime. Really doubt you'd get much of any return for Hughes and Clay. The Bills already have two young draft picks on the line in Dawkins and Telleir. They could go out and get one top level interior line FA, use one more fairly high pick on another lineman and the line could be pretty good pretty quickly. You don't need 5 all pros out there, no other teams have that either. Put three talents guys out there and all of a suden the other two look much better too.

After reading this article would think Rex Ryan has a gained alot of interest in Allen.

LOL when I saw the headline, my first thought was "I wonder what team he's on?"

I did that for one year too, had the online version, and the questions were: do you have DTV, can you get DTV, and have you ever had DTV at this address. At the time I was able to answer no to all of them. Since then did have DTV for a few years, now canceled, so would be easy for them to tell me sorry you can get DTV at this address. Unless they really don't care?? May be one of these things as long as you answer no, legally DTV is in the clear to sell you the package, and would make me libel for any illegal streaming, copyright, etc issues?? And if you are willing to buy it, they will sell it to you. Or the second option be going with the "different install address" option. Does anyone know if nursing homes, assisted living would automatically qualify as could then use my mothers address. Her window also faces north which would not work then either. the other option if he's fairly computer savoy is go thru Redit

Have never read anything either way, did they find any evidence of CTE being worse in people who took roids? Probably had to tell as likely just about ever football player out there who is now old enough to start seeing the effects of CTE played back in the era of rampart steroid use. And maybe I shouldn't say rampart, but certainly in a time when they couldn't be detected and no penalties for using.

It appears the view going is better than coming,

Well I had the 900 part right, just left off the 7 in front of it! Not a big difference!!