Ed_Formerly_of_Roch

Well he did start in Rochester, and do recall people saying he'd be on ESPN soon which never happened. Did he choose to stay because he never got a good offer. I haven't listened to him in probably 15 years as not on any local radio for me, but he seemed to be arrogant with all callers unless they 100% agreed with him.

I can recall back in the early 90's when he first arrived on WHAM in Rochester, people were predicting big things for him, ESPN, etc. which never happened. So now he's just mad at the word and he blames all the callers for his failure to advance.

I don't care how good or bad Allen turns out to be, baring the unlikely you're going to give the 7th overall pick two plus full seasons. Maybe by Nov 2020 if there's no improvement in his play, you'd bench him and consider moving on, though in most cases you change OC's first as the thinking is typically that was the problem. So how much do you think this a rookie will learn sitting on the bench for two seasons potentially learning from a person who turns out to be no good. I think they will bring in a vet backup for next season. Drafting a rookie in the 2nd or 3rd round, plus Allen, and a vet, you're now forced to take up 3 roster spots on a position that may only see the starter ever play all season. So to sum it up terrible idea!

You could make that statement about the starting QB for every team in the league and you'd be right more than you'd be wrong. You may be right about Allen, the odds are in your favor, but the one thing I do know for certain is you have absolutely no idea yourself whether he will work out to be great or not, but you think you know more than people who do this for a living and the odds are in your favor of being correct.

Put a better more consistent pass rush in front of them and don't think it's a stretch to be considered one of the best. The Bill's VB's are also very young, could see more improvement there.

I'd be really shocked to hear that was the case, however I think these days with all the computer analysis and other data available today, it's much easier to separate a players success out from a teams success. Back then it was more blurry so they got sucked into thinking the player had more to do with it than he really did. Kelly was in the USFL for was it 2 or 3 seasons, and Marino didn't start the first few games so trying to make anykind of meaningful argument after 3 weeks is a complete waste of time.

For everyone who's constantly ripping the Bills for the weak set of WR we have, look at Tenn. Other than Corey Davis, haven't even heard of any of them. And I'm sure if Tenn is this bad, there probably are other teams in a similar state too. So welcome to todays NFL! The Titans are left with five wide receivers on the roster – Corey Davis, Tajae Sharpe, Taywan Taylor, Darius Jennings, and Nick Williams.

Calling him a stud I'd think would be the other say around?? Maybe Mike's been hanging around the shower room too long??

Probably should. It's like you can put on a spy on Rodgers, but he can make you pay for it with his arm and having decent WR. In the Bills case, I'd throw the spy in there until Allan and the WR can show they can make plays!

Was that the time he was arguing that it was better to lose an NFC GAME? No Sorry not him.

I'll say one thing about the next four games, with already having two losses to AFC teams, need to get some wins against the 3 upcoming AFC teams if the team even were to have any chance of staying in contention. If they are going to lose any, let it be this week. Without wins in these games, they'd have a hard time winning wild card tie breakers.

While all that's true, Allen also will learn more too. I think what you say is true when you have a QB with limited skills, i.e. Fitz, but someone with the physical skills like Allen learning what he does doesn't help as much.

The thing too is ESPN/NFL Network, etc all show the TT highlights and you say how can the Bills get rid of him, a playoff QB even. But they don't show the highlights of his was it around 100 yard performance against the Panthers, Saints and Jet's last year?

All you need is one good one to create a trade market in fact if only one likely could get even more in return. Likely last year took less to move up as teams didn't really need to get to #1 to still potentially get a good QB. Not enough practice time into todays NFL for that to happen and actually have a good answer. If Allen does flame as you suggest then the Bills would likely be drafting near the top in 2020 too, then draft another QB. The likelihood of someone being a franchise QB in 2020 is the same as 2019, who knows

Unless by the end of year 1 you have doubts about Allen, I agree, trade down. The problem in todays NFL with drafting another QB is you'll then have two QB that you'll not have a good idea about whether they're really good or not. There's just not enough practice time available to evaluate a 2nd guy too. Based on prior trades for the top one or two picks, I think it would be very hard for any team to trade up that far and not be In the top 10. The only way is if there's really not anyone who stands out, then the buyers market dwindles. But even then a top ten picking team may still offer the Bills the most to move up, just not as much as typical in prior years. If that happens, then the best option may be to draft Bosa or someone else at #1

I agree he'll have a job for a number of years, but can't see him being signed anywhere as a starter. Think teams have seen enough to know what he is. And on top of everything, can't depend on him too much due to getting hurt, nothing ever major, just little nicks He could end up starting for a long stretch if he goes to a team as the backup and the starter were to get hurt.

OK so your take is if the the GM is hired first and he hires a person he's worked which by your definition makes him his friend, that's fine, but if the coach is hired first and then hires his "friend" who he worked with before, that's no good. So would you have been happier if they hired someone who McD never worked with before and then create the situation like we had with Rex/Marrone and Whaley? Yes I agree in most cases the GM is hired first, then bring in the HC, but it's also not unprecedented to first hire the coach either. I'm also not so sure the Bills could have put together the front office they had if they hired the GM first as many teams aren't going to let front office types go while preparing for the draft. I doubt we'd have also got the guy from KC or think there was another from Miami prior to the draft. Teams have to let assistants interview and take HC jobs, not so sure that's true for front office positions, have seen posts stating yes and no to that and almost certain not true for assistant front office positions. Then the team could have been in a position of great we got the GM and HC in place, but a very thin front office as can't hire anyone else under contract. There's a reason GM and front office position contracts typically all expire in May. Hiring a GM in January likely meant you're limited to people out of work, in other words a past failure from somewhere else. But does it really matter, either way the GM is likely going to hire as a coach someone he worked with prior, i,e, Polien/Levy or the coach hies someone as the GM he's worked with. And technically McD didn't hire Beane, Pegula did, but with a huge thumbs up and recommendation from McD. And I'm sure part of Pegula's thinking was he didn't want to repeat the same mistake of coach and GM not always being on the same page.

Show me some evidence that they were friends, can you post some pictures of their families going on vacation together, then I'll agree they are friends. Though even then many times staff members do socialize together. They both worked together for the same team for a few seasons, that hardly makes them friends. They didn't go to college together or follow eachother from team to team. How many times do you hear a team hires a new HC and right away he brings some of his old staff with him. Rex brought half his Jets staff here. Marrone brought Hackett and then brought him to Jax too. Based on your definition, that must make them all friends too. Well if so, then yes all the teams are doing it. Bill Pollian had worked with Marv Levy in the CFL guess he hired his friend too. I do agree that TP forced two coaches on Whaley, if he was allowed to pick his own guy who would he likely have chosen, probably someone he had some type of prior relationship with previously.

Almost every team in the tries to have a coach and GM who work well together.That's being smart. A coach hiring a person he's worked with and has a good relationship hardly makes him a friend. Rex/Marrone and Whaley worked out real well together! I don't recall hearing much that Beane not talking to Sammy, and easy for someone to write that and claim it to be true. And maybe he didn't talk to him becasue he heard enough without talking to him. And just heard enough of Sammy to know he's not wort the money. And 6 catches for 100 yards doesn't exactly make me think yeah he was worth the money!

What I saw is one guy who very likely would not have signed here unless we over paid for him and eventually did sign a contract for way more than he's worth. And another guy who was rumored to want to sign wit ha west coast team as that's where he was from. Could the Bills have again over pay for him too sure.

Or he may be thinking, Damm these guys are alot better than what I faced in the ACC. And the coaches likely also realize he's not anywhere yet ready in spite of everything fanatics who see very little of how he's actually doing think. Will he be ready in a few more weeks to replace one of them maybe, or will he be ready by next week if one of the starters got hurt, likely yes then he will become as ready as he can be. But right now the people who actually do this as a a living do know more.

There's many aQB in this league have followed that same recipe, all the way to the bank. Vet QB in new system, confuses the defense for a few games, and looks great. Defense figures him out, but he comes rich in the mean time. Do agree though if the next two weeks he plays at same level, keep playing him even when Winston is back. I mean it's not like they are benching Tom Brady here. Will predict an explosion/sulking/trade demand/ all of the above from Winston though if that happens.

All that means is you have alot of idiots who don't know anything putting money down on him getting fired. Would have been much smarter to just hand me all the money as there's no way they will ever collect on that one. No way he gets fired unless he does something real dumb off the field like maybe hitting on Kim, then again that may be worth the risk.

That also gives them a few extra days too to bring in Baker

Agree, but you would need to bring in someone as a backup. But even then by the time one of these guys were to get up to speed Allen could be back again. So likely means Peterman would be the QB for a few weeks even if Allen were to go out. nd at that point, what's the difference anyway.