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Its one bad loss combined with shaky wins against the worst teams in the league. If we had been blowing those teams out it would be a different story.

To add - you can be happy the team is 5-2. BUT...still see that the offense has not progressed as much as it should have by this time. That is alarming. The offensive rankings have not been this bad since the Jauron years. And dont say we should not expect better given Allen is still learning, all the changes, etc. Bills of the past faced the same. People quickly forget when the team had a serious lack of talent on offense.

I think it is too early to make a judgement on McD. However, I do find it interesting that people say he took a bad team that he inherited and guided them into the playoffs. He now gets to build his own team. So if he cant guide his own team that he built into the playoffs is that not a bad thing? How can we call it a success if McD gets the Bills make the playoffs. But at the same time, the last time the Bills made then playoff was with a team many say had zero talent and needed a complete rebuild? That makes no sense.

My comment was related to the myth that every team needs at least 4-5 years after hiring a new regime. That is false. Most new regimes dont last 4-5 years if they dont get it right. McD is in year 3 and I would say right now is in the B range but if Allen flames out that could easily drop him down to the D range after next year and he could be in trouble.

I have not been quiet and do not hide out. So not sure how you come up with that. I am sure you read my post history... No its 13 losses by more than 10 and of those 13 losses 7 of them is by more 20. For context during Rex two years only had 1 loss by more than a couple TD's and Marrone only 3. So McD is already double those guys combined. Dont think so. Check my posts.

Or these ones http://www.nfl.com/schedules/2008/REG/BILLS

Worst case: We are barely better than NYJ/MIA/WAS/CIN... We only beat WAS and NYJ = 7-9 Best Case: We are slightly above average... We beat WAS, CLE, MIA, DEN, PIT, NYJ = 11-5

Overall W/L Record = 20 - 19 Overall Scoring Differential = -150 Record vs Losing Record Teams = 16 - 6 Scoring differential vs losing Record Teams = 93 Record vs Winning Record Teams = 4 - 13 (wins vs 8-7-1 2018 MIN; 9-7 2018 TEN; 10-6 2017 ATL; 10-6 2017 KC) Scoring differential vs Winning Record Teams = -243 WINS by 10+ = 5 WINS by 20+ = 3 LOSSES by 10+ = 13 LOSSES by 20+ = 7 Record when OPP scores 20 or more = 3 - 17 AVG Score vs Winning Record Teams = Bills 12 vs OPP 27 AVG Score vs Losing Record Teams = Bills 22 vs OPP 18 Combined Teams Winning % of Wins = .371 Combined Teams Winning % of Losses = .610 Last but not least... Challenges = 1 for 12 (Ouch

https://www.thebiglead.com/posts/jay-glazer-deandre-hopkins-trade-rumors-01dr70zcc2rm https://www.syracuse.com/buffalo-bills/2019/10/buffalo-bills-trade-rumors-teams-calling-texans-about-deandre-hopkins.html

https://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/2019/10/buffalo-bills-trade-rumors-teams-calling-texans-about-deandre-hopkins.html

1. Doing more with less - Not sure that is true. Even if it was this is year 3 so whose fault is that? 2. Day or two like yesterday? Under McD there have been way too many. They have 10 losses by more than 14 points in his 39 games. That is more than 1 in 4 are blowouts. Comparison - Rex had 1 in 31 games...Marrone had 3 in his 32 games.

All I have to say about that.

Myth. McVay and Shanahan have built those teams into winners. Rams offense was horrendous for a number of years before he got there and he turned it around. 49ers were terrible on both sides of the ball. Bills offense the last 3 years has yet to be as good as it was the 3 years before McD got hired. The D was good/decent ranked 4, 15, 16 before McD and has been 18. 18, 5 with him. Sobering facts.

Well he did lead the nation is rushing attempts in 2017. Not sure why people think he cant handle a workload. He is 5'7 and 203 vs gore at 5'9 and 212. Not a huge difference.

What makes you think he is capable of that? The fact he has trouble versus the blitz tells me he is not the guy ready to be calling his own plays etc.

I could have started this same thread after the game against PHI. Can we question his ability now? Bills are down 24-13 and recover fumble on PHI 43.Tons of time left, over 4 mins in 3rd. Gore runs for 6 yards. Gore runs for 8 yards to PHI 29. Daboll calls 4 straight pass plays and Bills turn ball over. Luckily Bills force a 3 and out. Bills still have entire 4th quarter and good field position at own 40. Daboll calls 3 straight pass plays and punts. PHI goes on game ending drive. Regardless Bills get ball 2 more pass plays for 0 yards. Then first run on a 3rd and 23. Next drive 4 pointless pass plays down by a ton. So trailing 24-13 with a ton of football left two run plays for 14 yards followed by 13 pass plays for basically 0 yards....awful terrible dreadful.

And sorry but Bama offense aint gonna work in the NFL.

Wow. Low bar we have here. Win 1-2 games against good teams. Hope for an easy schedule so maybe we can get 7-9 wins.

Groundhogs day forever. Its always the next year and the next year and the next.

Seriously? The Pats and SF are destroying teams every week. They are in a different class than the Bills. Due to arrive next year? Every year its next year. While other teams are making super bowl plans we are talking about how the plan has always been next year or the year after. Jan 11 2017 Bills hire McD Jan 12 2017 Rams hire McVay Feb 6 2017 49ers hire Shanahan But yeah the Bills need more time.

That makes no sense. If they lose to teams so they have winning records, the Bills still did not beat a team with winning records. Losing to the current NYJ or MIA will not get either close to a winning record anyway. Point is 1) If your looking at records over a certain number of games you cannot ignore who you played over those games. For example if Bills played Pats, KC, Pats over three games and went 0-3 does that mean they are awful; But then they play NYJ, MIA, MIA and go 3-0 so now they are amazing. No, its called context. 2) Bills have yet to prove they can beat good teams. Not their fault how the schedule plays out. But many are eager to see them match up vs some good teams. The Dallas game may be the first but this Phi game and the Cle game are at least more legit tests. Exactly and fair IMO. Unless they were out there destroying teams each week. There can be a very thin line between losing and winning in the NFL. The Bills have been on the right side of that this year so far.

Or this stat. The Bills have only beaten 2 teams with a winning record over the past 22 games or 4 over the past 39 games.

Lets not go overboard. Better maybe but it was really only the first drive to start the half. Next drive was a 3 and out. Next drive was an int on his first pass. Next drive he got hurt.

Goff with a decent OL is a different QB. The Rams OL has been dreadful this year. That is what you get with the guy. Protect him and he can be one of the best in the league, if you cant you see what you get.

You had me until the "if you factor in preseason"...