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If there is an NFL draft and these are the 5 QB available where does Allen get picked? I say he goes 3rd behind Mayfield and Jackson.

If's are what we are seeing of of yet. His play still has much room for improvement. Other Qb's have lost jobs with his level of play. Do you feel the current version we are seeing of Josh Allen is good enough to be the teams QB for the next 10 years?

I have been round for it all as well. Which is why I am critical of things. Yes Allen is progressing and yes he needs time, But I dont need the smoke blown up my you know what about how I am blind and he is really playing great. We are 5-1 so who cares or whatever else. We could be 5-1 or 6-0 with a ton of QB's with how this defense has played. Barring an incredible meltdown JA is here for this year and next at least. If next year he is still playing this way there will be questions about his ceiling.

Allen over 200yds in all but 6 of 17 games. That is around 65% of the time over 200yds. Allen over 250yds only 2 times in 17 games. Would not call that 250yds minimum. Allen overall averaging under 200yds in his 17 games Tyrod was at 200yds 55% of the time. Tyrod was over 250yds 25% of the time. Tyrod through less picks in in nearly triple the number of games. So far we are getting less of the Allen upside compared to the dont turn the ball over Tyrod.

No he was not. There was a ton of talk about this around draft time. NFL passer rating on deep passes in 2017:Human Howitzer All-World Arm Josh Allen: 84.6 (31.0% complete), 37th in the draft class@bakermayfield : 134.8 (56.7% complete), 13 TDs, 1 INT, led the draft class.Oh, Mayfield had more passes dropped too. #ArmTalent. What good is a rocket launcher arm if you don't know how to use it?Josh Allen completed just one pass of 40+ yards in 2017. Each of the other QBs in this class completed at least 3 such passes. Among the top #NFLDraft QB prospects, @Lj_era8 was the most aggressive on 3rd down, throwing 71.1% of his attempts past the sticks

I get it. But many guys can do it occasionally. The reality is thus far in his career he has issues the majority of the time. This year and last year. In college he was not great at deep balls. We seem to confuse his ability to throw far and hard with the ability to connect with receivers on those balls. He has the potential to be good at based on his arm strength just not skilled at it as of now.

That is it? Many guys can throw the ball and sometimes people will catch it. Its about doing it consistently. You can find clips like that of guys that dont ever play a down in college let alone the NFL.

When did he show this? Last year? No. 28 QBR in passes at least 20 yds. No. 27 in completion percentage on long passes (at least 30 attempts) at 27.1%. No. 19 in on-target percentages at 50.8%. No. 1 in most interceptions on deep pass attempts with seven and only five touchdowns.

That is what I was thinking. When we are up 14-0 then start flinging it around mixed in with runs. I felt like he tried hard early to get Allen going vs letting the team establish the run as they could not stop it.

He should have got the ball more the first few drives yesterday. He was breaking off big runs. Set the tone and then hit them with the passing attack.

The Bills are 5-1. It is undeniable that they have a defense in the top of the league. The offense is another story. What are your opinions of Daboll? How much of the struggle is on the players vs the play calling / scheme? The first half of the Dolphins game was killing me. Showed some patterns from the entire season, but against a bad team I expected better. Some of Yesterday especially boneheaded: Designed runs to Allen vs the worst team in the NFL. Once in a while, sure. But really, we trying to get him hurt. Not needed in this game, especially in the first quarter. Gore - Drive #1 - First play 8 yard run; only one more run that drive. Drive #2 - Gore 10yd run first play; zero runs rest of drive. We never establish the run even thought Gore is breaking off long runs consistently. All Seaon: Long Developing plays. Way too many routes that take forever for a guy to get where he needs to be. Getting into a flow. This offense has struggled getting into a flow. A lot of times one play sets them back. Cutesy Plays - Once in while ok. But too many of these we are going to fool you plays. Save them for the right spots not 3 times in one drive. Getting calls in - Allen seems frantic trying to get the ball snapped way too often. Identity - Are we pass happy team? A running team that can pass? Do we adjust to the defense playing? Can we adjust to schemes?

This could be a historically easy schedule for the history of the NFL not just Bills.

Debatable. I think Fitz outplayed Allen in this one. Bad int in the end zone and unlucky on his WR fumbling the ball. But I think if you swap QB's and Fitz plays that game as Bills QB the Bills blow out the Allen led Dolphins. No that does not mean I would rather have Fitz. He just outplayed him today.

People were hoping for that. The coaches were hoping for that. It has nothing to do with whether he is the QB of the future. It would just be a nice confidence booster for him to have gone out and let them up.

Why was the crowd booing if Josh was playing so wonderfully? Why were his receivers visibly frustrated with him? Come on guys. You can like the Bills. Be excited they are 5-1. Be a fan of Josh Allen. And still think he needs to play better. That is ok. It is called higher expectations. There is some room for he is still young. But there also some mind boggling misses. We all want him to get there. He is just not there yet.

Not really. Been in some games until the 3rd, but that is a stretch. The Bills games is the only lead they have had except 7-3 vs LAC in the 1st qtr.

No way around it. Allen was disappointing most of the game. Missed wide open guys. Missed at least two deep TD's where guys are wide open. You heard the crowd booing. You saw receivers visibly upset. However, most thoughts around here on Allen are like politics. You pick your side and just go along with it regardless of reality. So of course many will say things to justify or excuse. But he needs to get better and against better teams or in the playoffs that is a loss.

Play well enough to win? Then why not just keep Tyrod or find the most mediocre Qb that will protect the ball? I am not saying we ditch Allen. I just disagree with all the attempts to show he is actually playing great, he is actually better than xyz, this is the plan with him, its WR fault, fill in your excuse here. Yes, it is going to be a development process. Nothing wrong with being honest when the guy struggles. I dont think I have ever "cried over other team toys".

And Josh Allen playing inconsistently. We should all hope this is not his ceiling. This defense will not sustain this level of play every game and for years to come. In many ways this team is winning despite Allen not because Allen. They would likely have the same outcomes and maybe actually have won the NE game if we had Tyrod Taylor level play thus far. That was not good enough and either should this version of Josh Allen. We have him because the hope is he continue to develop. I can guarantee you the coaches are not pleased and want more from him. No question.

I feel like the "he is raw" is a cop out. We see guys all the time come out of nowhere with a huge game. Just look at Kyle Allen who in his first game threw for more yards and TD's in a game than our Allen has. Allen has yet to do that. He has had chances but he has trouble playing a complete game thus far. That does not mean he wont. But no excuses, he just hasnt done it yet.

There is this thing the Bills do where the Center hikes the ball to the QB kind of like a punt. I watched a few games yesterday and think other teams are copying the Bills on that too.

Not sure how this list is supposed to help Allen. Saying there are a lot of busts and many that outplayed Allen thus far. Sounds more like this would help show he is more likely to bust.

AJ may not be the player he once was but he still would be a huge addition to this team. He becomes the number one and a guy teams need to take into account. That will help all aspects of the Bills offense. Not to mention the Bills getting him would stop another contender from getting him. The Pats could be a spot but him going to OAK, BALT, IND, LAC could help one of those teams edge the Bills out of a playoff spot. I get him for a 2nd or less and am ok as a one year rental. This year has all the workings of being a year that any team can go deep into the playoffs.

Completely missed on the west coast - OAK and SF.

How is Wallace better than White?