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The legend of Duke Williams...following in the footsteps of Da'Rick Rogers...

Related to Beane - Point is the AB situation is not an example of "Thank God we have Beane". Beane did not save us from having AB. Whaley or whoever before him would not have gotten AB. Whatever other spin people want to make on it to push a Beane is great agenda is absurd. We tried to get the guy and didnt - no credit due for that. Its a reach but IMO but if anything the fact we even tried to get him shows we were not the prophetic genius people try to imply.

Never got into money bc AB said no way I am going there...

Fact is we tried to get him. My point is some are talking like Beane and the Bills should somehow get a pat on the back that he is not here. Here is the real deal 1) We wanted him 2) We didnt get him 3) He is crazy 4) Thankfully he is not our problem, no credit to us for that

It is funny. Beane tried and was not successful in getting AB because he did not want to come here. Yes, it now probably is good that he didnt. But lets not pretend like Beane did anything positive here. He essentially failed in trying to get him, but got lucky AB did not want to come or it would be the Bills dealing with this nonsense.

To be fair - last year he did not have a good year. The prior he did play well and was a big part why the team made the playoffs. Last year I dont know if any RB could have excelled. That offense due to the personnel other than Shady was a joke. I hope this is not a similar situation as Tyrod. Where you keep Shady and let him be there until Singletary is ready. Now say he is not ready and we are falling back on Gore/Yeldon. Reminds me of Nathan Peterman and AJM with Allen.

Nationally speaking - Bills are invisible. Some pick the team as a whole to be "surprise" team but even them can barely tell you anyone on the roster. McCoy was the most recognizable name. Most do not think a whole lot of Josh Allen yet. For example, was just listening to a show talking about Goff's contract. They went through every starter and said Goff or that guy...on Allen it was a Josh Allen, no without even a discussion. They at least debated Sam Darnold ultimately saying no but at least discussed it. Even discussed Fitz. Allen was simple no.

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Did anyone see the NFL played a game on an 80 yard field? Not sure what else can be said to show that pre-season is a joke...

That is the truth of it all and still the truth. We all hope Josh is finally the guy. If not, it hardly matters how well we draft because we waste away that talent spinning our wheels finding a QB.

Short term memory. Every year after the draft it was the best draft ever and I cant remember the last time the Bills had a great draft, etc. It is the "we dont know yet, so these guys are all great" concept. Then if they suck in a couple years the cycle repeats "this years draft is so much better than two years ago". Yes there have been some sucky drafts but in the moment many hyped up how great they were before they knew they sucked. There were also some good drafts that get forgotten or spun as not so good or just were not good here. Looking at some of the old drafts... 2007 - Lynch, Poz and Edwards, three starters at key positions. 2009 - Wood, Byrd, Levitre 2011 - Dareus, Williams, Shepperd, Searcy 2012 - Gilmore, Glenn, Bradham 2013 - Woods, Alonso, Goodwin

Great to see but hard to tell without seeing them against solid NFL talent. Beating or being the best of the guys fighting for roster spots does not mean you are better than a guy that on paper is performing worst but against NFL starters. Simplest example: Cole Beasley vs Tre White: Beasley catches 3 passes for 15 yds Duke Williams vs Cam Lewis: Williams catches 7 passes for 150 yds Duke must be better right? No, White on Duke could have been 0 for 0 while Lewis on Beasley and he goes for 9 catches and 250 yds.

Flacco and Stafford.

More than one team can make a mistake right? The Bears probably feel ok with the decision. They were 12-4 and feel good about their QB. The 49ers, Jets and Bills are still in wait and see mode. All have QB's that could be the answer. I would argue any of the three would take Mahomes in a heartbeat over the current QB. Remember, the reason the Bills are tied to Mahomes the most is because they traded the pick. Yes others could have drafted Mahomes higher in the draft but the Bills traded the pick he was drafted with meaning they did not value him at #10. Subtle but meaningful - Bears can say at #2 they did not value Mahomes there, but at #10 they would have for example. Bills are the only team that passed at him that far down the board.

That is the point. Its pre-season. Not the best indicator of player performance clearly shown by Peterman. Allen stats are not even on the Peterman preseason level yet...I see no problem saying it does not mean a whole lot.

NFL - The 32nd team could be the best team on any given Sunday. That does not mean they are top 5. The Bills should be clearly not a top 5 team at this point. Top 16 is a stretch.

Well preseason does not mean a whole lot. Peterman 1 Int in 120 passes in preseason. 12 Int in 130 passes in regular season.

Watch out NFL...here come the Buffalo Bills running Singletary and Wade behind two TE and a FB. Maybe we can beat some of the leather helmet teams.

Do I really need to say this - this was not an NFL game. The 5 TD's was part of practice stats. Portions of those plays are where you want a TD on nearly every pass. So its all relative. Some other guy could have been 17-19 for 109 yds and 13 TD's, so yes 5 TD's could be a negative...in practice.

Disagree. On offense - The QB, RB, OL and TE were all carryovers. The guys the new regime tried were all failures - Peterman, KB, Matthews, Z Jones, etc did not help this team. On Defense - The additions of Poyer and Hyde were positive as was rookie Tre White eventually. But again, much of the core was the same - williams, hughes, p brown, l alexander...

Here is what is ironic. We want to give the McBeane team credit for making the playoffs in year one. Then we want say year two was supposed to be terrible and they had to get rid of all the terrible players. That means year one and the playoffs was not part of McBeane's plans because they did not want those guys. In my book the prior regime gets more credit for that roster and they had some luck sneaking in the playoffs. If this is not a playoff team within a couple years this regime is a failure.

People on both sides look for anything to prove theei point. Look how fast we got out of cap hell - amazing job Beane. Nevermind Beane did help create the cap hell by wanting his guys only. Who is right? The team was better record wise before many of the cuts. Cant ignore this was a bad team last year that got worse. This year will be telling to see if they are better. Guess what, if not and the team sucks again...we could easily be in cap hell again. Cutting guys like Hughes, Star, Morse, and more could easily add up to $40M+ in dead cap.

PLAYER (61) POS. BASE SALARY SIGNING BONUS ROSTER BONUS OPTION BONUS WORKOUT BONUS RESTRUC. BONUS MISC. DEAD CAP CAP HIT CAP % Marcell Dareus DT - $10,000,000 - $3,564,705 - - - - $13,564,705 7.19 Eric Wood C $4,800,000 $4,333,334 - - - $1,258,334 - - $10,391,668 5.50 Cordy Glenn LT - $9,600,000 - - - - - - $9,600,000 5.09 Kelvin Benjamin WR $8,459,000 - - - - - - - $8,459,000 4.48 Tyrod Taylor QB - $7,640,000 - - - - - - $7,640,000 4.05 Corey Coleman WR $2,955,922 - - - - - - - $2,955,922 1.57 Aaron Williams SS - $1,300,000 - $1,125,000 - - - - $2,425,000 1.28 A.J. McCarron QB - $2,000,000 - - $100,000 - - - $2,100,000 1.11 Vontae Davis CB $264,706 $1,500,000 $78,125 - $250,000 - - - $2,092,830 1.11 Andre Holmes WR $764,706 $550,000 $150,000 - $50,000 - - - $1,514,706 0.80 Reggie Ragland ILB - $1,224,135 - - - - - - $1,224,135 0.65 Richie Incognito G - $1,150,000 - - - - - - $1,150,000 0.61 Ramon Humber OLB $915,000 $60,000 - - $30,000 - - - $720,000 0.38 Marshall Newhouse RT $176,472 $500,000 - - - - - - $676,472 0.36 Jeremy Kerley WR $630,000 - - - $45,000 - - - $675,000 0.36